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Reply #780 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:46pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:26pm:

Patience little wumao. You don't comprehend our resolve.
It's not that we can't be brutal in our defence, it's just that we need the resolve of the true will of the people.

I understand your delusional "freedom" ideology and its associated death wish well enough: the "freedom" to die for "freedom".

Your wish may well be granted one day, just as with those who are dying in Ukraine today ....for "freedom".

Insane.

If you're a Chinese national, living in China, you're just weak. It's not your fault, it's just an accident of birth.

You were born to parrot a script that you're given to post.

You can't help it. What else can you do? What would happen to you and your family if you deviated from the doctrine?

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Reply #781 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:49pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:59pm:

True but that doesn’t help when the fools are armed with hypersonic nuclear weapons[/font][/size][/b].

I assume you understand there are sufficient fools on all sides who are armed with nukes.....but perhaps I shouldn't assume that....

Confidence with power is hiding that you have a hammer in your hand.

If you have to show everyone you have a hammer in your hand, then you have no right to a hammer - you're not confident in using it.

page turn please...

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Reply #782 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:33pm:

Confidence with power is hiding that you have a hammer in your hand.

"confidence" has nothing to do with 'might is right'.

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If you have to show everyone you have a hammer in your hand, then you have no right to a hammer - you're not confident in using it.

you are reduced to meaningless metaphors, as if a "right" to power has anything to do with "confidence".

All right must be defended by might in silence.

The weak and the coward can't help but talk about their imagined might without ever having proved it.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11869 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #783 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:51pm dup
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Reply #784 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:51pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:00pm:

Outside China, wumaos and little pinks are, what we would call, political zombies.

Says the deluded, national sovereignty "legal war" ideologue...'legal war' in the age of MAD, no less, proving you are insane...and even without resort to nukes, your complacency with the ongoing necessary slaughter of children in conventional wars condemns you.

Same old stuff with you. Why not apply for a new supervisor?

Same old complacency in your delusional 'liberalism'. Eric Li called it out in the videos posted by Athos.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11869 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #785 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:52pm All right must be defended by might in silence. The weak and the coward can't help but talk about their imagined might without ever having proved it.
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Reply #786 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:55pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:

Patience little wumao. You don't comprehend our resolve.
It's not that we can't be brutal in our defence, it's just that we need the resolve of the true will of the people.

I understand your delusional "freedom" ideology and its associated death wish well enough: the "freedom" to die for "freedom".

Your wish may well be granted one day, just as with those who are dying in Ukraine today ....for "freedom".

Insane.

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If you're a Chinese national, living in China, you're just weak. It's not your fault, it's just an accident of birth.

You were born to parrot a script that you're given to post.

You can't help it. What else can you do? What would happen to you and your family if you deviated from the doctrine?

Er...I think you'll find that diatribe is not regarded as debate....

Have a go at critiquing "legal war" and its relationship to national sovereignty.

Particularly relevant at present....

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11869 Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #787 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:55pm: Er...I think you'll find that diatribe is not regarded as debate Do you think we're debating?
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Reply #788 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:03pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

All right must be defended by might in silence.

You mean like ...Hiroshima?.....

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The weak and the coward can't help but talk about their imagined might without ever having proved it.

First you were talking about 'right' via might, now you have switched to 'might' via "proof".

As to be expected from a confused/deluded "freedom" ideologue.....

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Reply #789 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:03pm

Frank wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:29am:

Two-thirds of Americans cannot find Ukraine on a map, according to a new survey, as the US prepares for a confrontation with Russia over the future of the former Soviet nation and urges Americans to leave as soon as possible.

In the same survey of over 2,000 Americans published on Wednesday EST, more than a quarter of respondents could not identify the US’s old cold war adversary, Russia, the world’s largest nation by land mass.

“Many US voters are getting a brush-up on Eastern European geography as Russian troops surround Ukraine on three sides and the Kremlin demands Western security concessions in exchange for backing down,” said Matthew Kendrick, an analyst at Morning Consult, the polling company.

“God created war so Americans would learn geography,” he added, referring to an apocryphal quip by American author Mark Twain.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/most-americans-cant-place-ukraine-on-map-survey/news-story/2cc3fca85cb0d59fb15c47bd59ae5b98

I wonder what proportion of Australians could point out Ukraine or Russia on the map.

Russia is the big red blob on the top right of the map of Europe - virtually all of it next to China in the far east. Ukraine is at the button left (west) of Russia on the map on top of the black sea.

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Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine
Reply #791 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:09pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:50pm:

All right must be defended by might in silence.

You mean like ...Hiroshima?.....

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The weak and the coward can't help but talk about their imagined might without ever having proved it.

First you were talking about 'right' via might, now you have switched to 'might' via "proof".

As to be expected from a confused/deluded "freedom" ideologue.....

The CCP (and all communist states) has killed more of its own people than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined, so don't talk about numbers.

I talked about right being defended by might in silence. All we hear from the wumao and Putin is about the hammer in their hand - as if we don't have hammers in our hands... we're just not talking about them.

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Reply #793 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:15pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 4:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Aha! He said it!

90% applies to the rest of the world too, eh?

It's always painful debating deluded Western "individual freedom" ideologues, but never give up....

The CCP takes its inspiration from Marxism. You said the CCP doesn't practice Marxism.

I said YOU are not entitled to say whether the CCP considers it is practicing Marxism or not.

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Good to see you finally come clean, Great. Only the CCP define Marxism-Leninism.

No, ANYONE can define Marxism-Leninism as a basis for achieving good governance, as he sees fit, because both Marx and Lenin are historical figures who confronted vastly different circumstances to those in our modern world.

Meanwhile you of course want to define Marxism in negative terms and reject it completely, as if aspects of Marxism cannot be adapted to changing circumstances in the modern world.

A Conservative mind will of course have difficulties with the concept of "changing circumstances".

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Does this include you?

fyi, Marx and Christ (the man, not the mythical god) are two of my heroes, but that shouldn't be of concern in this debate.

And two of my heroes too, dear. I would never reject Marx's work. I would merely say the CCP has turned its back on Marxism.

Socialism "with Chinese characteristics" is a repudiation of Mao's Marxism-Leninism. It's no longer socialism, but a form of oligarchical corporatism.

And that's okay. The political-economic model of the CCP is closer to fascism in practice. No worries, the model has developed China quicker than any country ever. The pace is unprecedented.

So why pretend it's anything other than a form of top-down state capitalism?

Your country has made great strides, and had great failures too. The difference between us is we can admit our mistakes.

You're not allowed. 90%, innit.

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Jim Lahey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2447 Lisa's Merc Gender:	Re: Russia will not invade Ukraine Reply #794 - Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:19pm How much have you made today athos et al?
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