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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #120 - Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:27pm

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

You lied. I said you are full of crap. And you took that to mean we agree?

Have you ever been outside of China?

Please gentlemen consider the facts.
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #121 - Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:47pm

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:27pm:

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

You lied. I said you are full of crap. And you took that to mean we agree?

Have you ever been outside of China?

Please gentlemen consider the facts.
Thank you

15 Facts About The Financial Condition Of American Families That Will Blow Your Mind

Have you ever been outside of China?

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #122 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 9:29am

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:27pm:

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

You lied. I said you are full of crap. And you took that to mean we agree?

Have you ever been outside of China?

Please gentlemen consider the facts.
Thank you

15 Facts About The Financial Condition Of American Families That Will Blow Your Mind

Have you ever been outside of China?

Of course, I have been to many more countries than you can imagine.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #123 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:12pm I cannot imagine you being to more than one, so that is not hard. Do you get paid to post here?
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6402 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #125 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:54pm freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:12pm: I cannot imagine you being to more than one, so that is not hard. Do you get paid to post here? nonsense???
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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #126 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:55pm

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 11:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

"Updating poverty lines according to changes in per capita household disposable income means that the poverty lines are relative measures of poverty. As real incomes in the community rise, so too will the poverty lines".

Exactly, same as in China, where the reductions in poverty and relative poverty are happening at a faster rate than in Oz.

Meanwhile, from prof. John Buchanan on radio today: Living standards in Oz will fall in coming years, because increasing casualization and underemployment of the workforce mean wages growth will continue to lag inflation in Oz's predominantly resourced-based economy.

Australia encourages urgent de-Anglonization (de-Pomization) and denazification, otherwise this British colony will face major economic and political problems.

Well that proves it. You’re not a piece of badly written software, you’re an actual complete idiot.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #127 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:59pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:55pm:

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 11:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

"Updating poverty lines according to changes in per capita household disposable income means that the poverty lines are relative measures of poverty. As real incomes in the community rise, so too will the poverty lines".

Exactly, same as in China, where the reductions in poverty and relative poverty are happening at a faster rate than in Oz.

Meanwhile, from prof. John Buchanan on radio today: Living standards in Oz will fall in coming years, because increasing casualization and underemployment of the workforce mean wages growth will continue to lag inflation in Oz's predominantly resourced-based economy.

Australia encourages urgent de-Anglonization (de-Pomization) and denazification, otherwise this British colony will face major economic and political problems.

Well that proves it. You’re not a piece of badly written software, you’re an actual complete idiot.

Please be civilized and restrain from personal insults.
Otherwise you'll be de-Pomenized and de-Nazified.
Thank you

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #128 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 7:03pm

athos wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Well that proves it. You’re not a piece of badly written software, you’re an actual complete idiot.

Please be civilized and restrain from personal insults.
Otherwise you'll be de-Pomenized and de-Nazified.
Thank you

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Something you may care to try your hand at one of these days - - logic ?

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #129 - Mar 31^st, 2022 at 7:07pm

athos wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 31^st, 2022 at 6:55pm:

athos wrote on Mar 30^th, 2022 at 6:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 11:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 28^th, 2022 at 7:23pm:

"Updating poverty lines according to changes in per capita household disposable income means that the poverty lines are relative measures of poverty. As real incomes in the community rise, so too will the poverty lines".

Exactly, same as in China, where the reductions in poverty and relative poverty are happening at a faster rate than in Oz.

Meanwhile, from prof. John Buchanan on radio today: Living standards in Oz will fall in coming years, because increasing casualization and underemployment of the workforce mean wages growth will continue to lag inflation in Oz's predominantly resourced-based economy.

Australia encourages urgent de-Anglonization (de-Pomization) and denazification, otherwise this British colony will face major economic and political problems.

Well that proves it. You’re not a piece of badly written software, you’re an actual complete idiot.

Please be civilized and restrain from personal insults.
Otherwise you'll be de-Pomenized and de-Nazified.
Thank you

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #131 - Apr 3^rd, 2022 at 3:39pm

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

You lied. I said you are full of crap. And you took that to mean we agree?

You wrote: "Updating poverty lines according to changes in per capita household disposable income means that the poverty lines are relative measures of poverty. As real incomes in the community rise, so too will the poverty lines".

I merely pointed out that that paragraph applies equally to China, which is not the same as saying we agree.

And I continue to assert China is eradicating relative poverty, as measured in your article, at a faster rate than Oz, because per capita income is rising faster in China than Oz.

From 1990 to 2020: change in GDP per capita

China ....times 10. ($1000 to $10,000)

Australia......less than 3 times ($18,000 to $51,000)

Australia:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/AUS/australia/gdp-per-capita

China

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CHN/china/gdp-per-capita

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Have you ever been outside of China?

Yes.

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Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west
Reply #133 - Apr 3^rd, 2022 at 4:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2022 at 3:43pm:

How can you say with a straight face that poverty is entrenched in the west and eradicated in China, when our unemployed get paid more than twice the median wage in China?

Because relative poverty is entrenched in Oz, eg 1 in 6 kids still living in (relative) poverty in Oz, even though per capita income has tripled since 1990 (when Hawkey famously remarked about child poverty in Oz). Inequality has remained more or less stable.

Whereas relative poverty in China has decreased, as per capita incomes have risen 10 times as shown in the chart, and inequality has trended down since 2004.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49091 At my desk.	Re: CCP stooges: less poverty in China than the west Reply #134 - Apr 3^rd, 2022 at 6:11pm Quote: Because relative poverty is entrenched in Oz You still don't understand what the term means, do you? Quote: Inequality has remained more or less stable Correct. And it is rapidly getting worse in China. Already far worse than Australia.
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