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That is not what it means. Stop telling lies. By itself, it tells you absolutely nothing about what people can afford.

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You quoted yourself here.

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I don't recall you posting any charts about income inequality. Are you suggesting inequality was even worse than it is now when the CCP was starving millions of Chinese people to death with unequal food distribution?

If you posted a chart showing Australia's and China's per capita absolute GDP, you would struggle to even see China's. Even our unemployed get paid more than double the median Chinese wage.

Athos why do you think the Chinese people let the CCP starve them to death with incompetence and inequality?

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:


Typical conservative, denying poverty and disadvantage  exist. And even the ALP's Andrew Leigh - who claims to be "progressive" - relies on charities as a means of fighting disadvantage. Hopeless.

People can either afford to turn on a heater, or pay the rent or eat, without being forced to choose one of them, or they can't. 

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Inequality  is low when everyone is living in absolute poverty. It increases as some get rich; then it reduces again as absolute poverty is eradicated; and relative poverty reduces as per capita incomes rise (which is happening at a faster rate in China than in Oz (as per the linked  charts).

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I already posted the charts showing per capita GDP 1990 - 2020; China's is increasing 3 times the rate of Oz.

And if Oz's unemployed still have to turn to charities,  then the comparison with China's subsidized low paid workers (whose per capita incomes are rising 3  times as fast as Oz) are invalid.

As Ellen Brown has observed in the US.

https://ellenbrown.com/2019/06/14/the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well-in-china/

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 7:20pm:


The CCP, in 1950-1960's.

Today's CCP is producing the 'economic miracle' acknowledged around the world, having lifted a larger number of people out of poverty at a faster rate  than any nation in history. and still powering ahead.

The zero covid strategy has saved many lives,  and the economic slow-down will hopefully be managed successfully.

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True, but that has nothing to do with relative wealth. Would you like to have another go at telling us what it means?

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Again you lie. That is not what inequality means. China's inequality for example is far more extreme than it was previously, now that the CCP has stopped starving it's citizens to death with unequal food distribution.

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Again, rate of increase neither a measure of inequality or wealth. If you one from ten grains of rice per day to 30 grains, you are still starving.

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Most of them do not. Which is why you pretend not to know what inequality is, because it is far worse in China than Australia.

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You do realise that is a form of charity, right?

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This is a measure of how badly they messed up in the past, not of what they have achieved so far. Though they continue to make the same mistakes, and you continue to avoid the question - why do the Chinese people continue allowing them to make these mistakes?

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What about the deny it exists and put journalists in jail strategy?

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 5:31pm:


The topic is relative poverty which has remained fixed in Oz over the last 3 decades, whereas relative poverty  is decreasing in China because the government subsidizes the working poor, without relying on charity to deal with disadvantage.   

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Inequality refers to the difference between the lowest and highest deciles.   

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Wrong. China has lifted the living standards of the lowest decile (a huge number of people) in the last 3 decades, whereas the living standards of the lowest decile in Oz are going backwards.

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Rate of increase in per capita wealth affects both wealth and inequality.


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I know what inequality is, and I'm saying it's now reducing faster than in Oz, as poverty is eradicated in China.   

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Subsidization is a government policy, not charity - the need for which is an indication of the failure of government policy. 

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Wrong: it's both, with China a being the fastest growing large economy in the world.

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The CCP enjoys >90% support of the people


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There is no denial; the policy is to minimize infections.