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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Shelling has started in Ukraine Reply #45 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:08am athos wrote on Feb 19^th, 2022 at 2:15pm: The brain of Anglo evil is Great Britain, and its muscles are the United States. Hope they’re paying you to write such bullshit. If not you’re thick as a brick.
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Re: Shelling has started in Ukraine
Reply #46 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:12am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2022 at 6:07pm:

Jasin wrote on Feb 19^th, 2022 at 5:40pm:

...because Russia is caught between a rock and a hard place and is looking for a way out from its past crimes, even against China - who hasn't forgotten.

...Australia, its wear Russia wishes it was right now. Wink

https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-oversee-nuclear-drills-during-standoff-over-...

Putin to oversee nuclear drills during standoff over Ukraine

By Tom Balmforth

MOSCOW, Feb 18 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin will oversee exercises by Russia's nuclear forces on Saturday involving the launch of ballistic and cruise missiles, the defence ministry said, in its latest show of strength at a time of acute tension with the West over Ukraine.

So Putin wants to see how effective his weaponry is against human beings etc.

It's kinda like Hiroshima - when the US found the perfect opportunity to test run its weaponry there.

Civilians who die are merely referred to as collateral damage.

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Reply #47 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:13am

Ayn Marx wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:08am:

athos wrote on Feb 19^th, 2022 at 2:15pm:

The brain of Anglo evil is Great Britain, and its muscles are the United States.

Hope they’re paying you to write such bullshit. If not you’re thick as a brick.

He's in the wrong topic lol.

This one is about Ukraine being invaded by Russia.

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Reply #48 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:14am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:04am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

When the last Russian is back in Russia from the Games, Putin will invade.

I don't think so.

Plus you forget that 1/4 of the population of Ukraine consists of Russians.

Putin won't care. He'll invade irrespective of how many Russian civilians die. It's all calculated collateral damage stuff.

Putin is 69 years old -
he has lived most of his life and he doesn't care
that many young people won't get to live their lives.

Putin is an evil bastard - just like Hitler.
He won't stop at Ukraine - he wants it all -
all of the former Soviet countries back in Europe.
Then he might even think about Germany and France too
just as Hitler couldn't stop once he started.

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Reply #49 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:20am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:04am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

When the last Russian is back in Russia from the Games, Putin will invade.

I don't think so.

Plus you forget that 1/4 of the population of Ukraine consists of Russians.

Putin won't care. He'll invade irrespective of how many Russian civilians die. It's all calculated collateral damage stuff.

Putin is 69 years old -
he has lived most of his life and he doesn't care
that many young people won't get to live their lives.

Putin is an evil bastard - just like Hitler.
He won't stop at Ukraine - he wants it all -
all of the former Soviet countries back in Europe.
Then he might even think about Germany and France too
just as Hitler couldn't stop once he started.

Putin.

"Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel, before resigning in 1991 to begin a political career in Saint Petersburg."

So once perestroika took place he switched gears.

And this former Gestapo chief went into politics.

He was always about undoing perestroika and getting Russia's lost territories back.

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Reply #50 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:25am

Dear God! I was right about Putin undermining Perestroika!

How did we miss this?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/worldcrunch.com/amp/end-of-perestroika-russias-m...

End Of Perestroika? Russia’s Media Reacts To Putin’s ‘Reset’

March 17, 2020

(Note the date please. Where was our attention back in March 2020? That's right Covid19! We were in shock over Covid19 and those dying from it in Australia).

From the above link.

"The Kremlin's special operation on the constitution has entered the home straight. With the help of an amendment suggested by a cosmonaut-lawmaker, all the terms served by the current president will be annulled, so that Putin can remain in power for at least another 16 years.The president, of course, is in complete accord … In this situation the country and its people have turned out to be hostages to an adventure organized by people exposed by circumstances to enormous power, but unaware of the adequate responsibility for this power."

Hang on :

Putin was 68 in 2020.

68 + 16 = 84

He'll be 84 in 2036. And he'll still be in power 😳

Dear God he's already insanely power hungry. How will anyone be able to cope with his BS for another 16+ years?

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Re: Shelling has started in Ukraine
Reply #51 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 4:04pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:04am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

When the last Russian is back in Russia from the Games, Putin will invade.

I don't think so.

Plus you forget that 1/4 of the population of Ukraine consists of Russians.

Putin won't care. He'll invade irrespective of how many Russian civilians die. It's all calculated collateral damage stuff.

Putin is 69 years old -
he has lived most of his life and he doesn't care
that many young people won't get to live their lives.

Putin is an evil bastard - just like Hitler.
He won't stop at Ukraine - he wants it all -
all of the former Soviet countries back in Europe.
Then he might even think about Germany and France too
just as Hitler couldn't stop once he started.

Putin.

"Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel, before resigning in 1991 to begin a political career in Saint Petersburg."

So once perestroika took place he switched gears.

And this former Gestapo chief went into politics.

He was always about undoing perestroika and getting Russia's lost territories back.

Putin is a madman -
he is risking WW3.

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Reply #52 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 5:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 4:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:04am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

When the last Russian is back in Russia from the Games, Putin will invade.

I don't think so.

Plus you forget that 1/4 of the population of Ukraine consists of Russians.

Putin won't care. He'll invade irrespective of how many Russian civilians die. It's all calculated collateral damage stuff.

Putin is 69 years old -
he has lived most of his life and he doesn't care
that many young people won't get to live their lives.

Putin is an evil bastard - just like Hitler.
He won't stop at Ukraine - he wants it all -
all of the former Soviet countries back in Europe.
Then he might even think about Germany and France too
just as Hitler couldn't stop once he started.

Putin.

"Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel, before resigning in 1991 to begin a political career in Saint Petersburg."

So once perestroika took place he switched gears.

And this former Gestapo chief went into politics.

He was always about undoing perestroika and getting Russia's lost territories back.

Putin is a madman -
he is risking WW3.

Biden is healthy normal man.
Grin

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Reply #53 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 5:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 4:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:14am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:04am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

When the last Russian is back in Russia from the Games, Putin will invade.

I don't think so.

Plus you forget that 1/4 of the population of Ukraine consists of Russians.

Putin won't care. He'll invade irrespective of how many Russian civilians die. It's all calculated collateral damage stuff.

Putin is 69 years old -
he has lived most of his life and he doesn't care
that many young people won't get to live their lives.

Putin is an evil bastard - just like Hitler.
He won't stop at Ukraine - he wants it all -
all of the former Soviet countries back in Europe.
Then he might even think about Germany and France too
just as Hitler couldn't stop once he started.

Putin.

"Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel, before resigning in 1991 to begin a political career in Saint Petersburg."

So once perestroika took place he switched gears.

And this former Gestapo chief went into politics.

He was always about undoing perestroika and getting Russia's lost territories back.

Putin is a madman -
he is risking WW3.

Putin: "If Russia Disappears, So Will The World"

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Reply #54 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 5:54pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 8:25am:

Dear God! I was right about Putin undermining Perestroika!

How did we miss this?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/worldcrunch.com/amp/end-of-perestroika-russias-m...

End Of Perestroika? Russia’s Media Reacts To Putin’s ‘Reset’

March 17, 2020

(Note the date please. Where was our attention back in March 2020? That's right Covid19! We were in shock over Covid19 and those dying from it in Australia).

From the above link.

"The Kremlin's special operation on the constitution has entered the home straight. With the help of an amendment suggested by a cosmonaut-lawmaker, all the terms served by the current president will be annulled, so that Putin can remain in power for at least another 16 years.The president, of course, is in complete accord … In this situation the country and its people have turned out to be hostages to an adventure organized by people exposed by circumstances to enormous power, but unaware of the adequate responsibility for this power."

Hang on :

Putin was 68 in 2020.

68 + 16 = 84

He'll be 84 in 2036. And he'll still be in power 😳

Dear God he's already insanely power hungry. How will anyone be able to cope with his BS for another 16+ years?

Your nondemocratiacally elected head of state is 95 and still is in power. So your maths about Putin was wrong and it should be:

Putin is 69 in 2022. (Born 7 October 1952)

He'll be 95 in 2049 and still in power.

Sorry for a bad news.
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Reply #55 - Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 8:20am

The war has started:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/kremlin-says-no-concrete-plans-summit-wit...

Putin recognises Ukraine rebel regions,
sends troops on what Moscow calls peacekeeping mission

Ukraine and West on alert for Russia creating pretext to invade

White House says summit possible only if Russia does not invade

Moscow says Ukrainian armoured vehicles tried to enter Russia

Kyiv calls Russian allegation 'fake news'

Rouble slides beyond 80 vs dollar as Putin addresses nation

MOSCOW, Feb 21 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin recognised two breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as independent on Monday and ordered the Russian army to launch what Moscow called a peacekeeping operation in the area, upping the ante in a crisis the West fears could unleash a major war.

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Reply #57 - Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 9:05am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 9:00am:

Interesting move from Putin: declare the eastern parts of Ukraine independent nations.

Russia can now defend the independence of sovereign nations and not appear the aggressor.

Also, it distances Russia from comparison to the CCP and its claims over Taiwan.

It's similar to Hitler's ideas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia

The military occupation of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany began with the German annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938, continued with the creation of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, and by the end of 1944 extended to all parts of Czechoslovakia.

Following the Anschluss of Austria to Nazi Germany in March 1938, he obtained with the Munich Agreement in September 1938. Adolf Hitler annexed the ethnic Germans living in Czech regions. The loss of Sudetenland was detrimental to the defense of Czechoslovakia as the extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area. The incorporation of the Sudetenland into Germany that began on 1 October 1938 left the rest of Czechoslovakia weak.

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Reply #58 - Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 10:08am

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/21/politics/us-russia-putin-reaction/index.html

US official says Russian troops could move
into separatist regions of Ukraine as soon as tonight

(CNN)The US expects Russian troops could move into the Donbas region of Ukraine as soon as Monday evening or Tuesday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized the two pro-Moscow territories as independent, a senior US official familiar with latest the intelligence tells CNN.
The US is still seeing preparations for a broader potential invasion including loading amphibious ships and equipment for airborne units.

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Reply #59 - Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 10:31am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 9:05am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2022 at 9:00am:

Interesting move from Putin: declare the eastern parts of Ukraine independent nations.

Russia can now defend the independence of sovereign nations and not appear the aggressor.

Also, it distances Russia from comparison to the CCP and its claims over Taiwan.

It's similar to Hitler's ideas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia

The military occupation of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany began with the German annexation of the Sudetenland in 1938, continued with the creation of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, and by the end of 1944 extended to all parts of Czechoslovakia.

Following the Anschluss of Austria to Nazi Germany in March 1938, he obtained with the Munich Agreement in September 1938. Adolf Hitler annexed the ethnic Germans living in Czech regions. The loss of Sudetenland was detrimental to the defense of Czechoslovakia as the extensive Czechoslovak border fortifications were also located in the same area. The incorporation of the Sudetenland into Germany that began on 1 October 1938 left the rest of Czechoslovakia weak.

In fact It's similar to British idea before the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

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