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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #150 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:36am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:12am:
Panther wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:07am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:00am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 9:54am:
In order to justify identifying people by 'race' - which by their own terms is racist - a CRT proponent justifies it by using exceptionalism, i.e. in order to engineer it out of the mind, the oppressor 'race' must be identified as an oppressor race. What this leads to, of course, is a latter-day form of witch-hunting.

It follows the spurious logic of a religious exceptionalistic maxim - 'In the pursuit of wrongdoing, one steps away from god'.


All of this is simply pure nonsense. Total garbage.  But you've already shown me what your sources are, so I am not shocked

CRT does not blame or hate white people.  It simply suggests if we want to end racism we need to recognise the way our systems were built on it


Critical Race Theory teaches the ignorance of hate, & those that promote it are all Racists themselves.....mostly White Racists that live in guilt & self hate!

And if repeating the truth over & over disturbs you, you best get a direct line to your psychiatrist, because the truth is going to blow your gaskets!

Critical Race Theory teaches the ignorance of hate, & those that promote it are all Racists themselves.....mostly White Racists that live in guilt & self hate!


What is it about gay people with large fonts and colour?



You think the American racist I quoted was gay? Why?
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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #151 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:36am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:11am:
It is absolutely about identifying an oppressor race, even if it concedes that an individual offender may not be aware he is an offender, in CRT that doesn't mitigate in favour of the oppressor race.


Given this is your bizarre hate fantasy, I won't bother asking for evidence

Wait, let me expose your ignorance.

Prove it
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Reply #152 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:37am
 
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Critical Race Theory teaches the ignorance of hate, & those that promote it are probably all Racists themselves.....probably mostly White Racists that live in guilt & self hate....


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Reply #153 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:38am
 
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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #154 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:43am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:36am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:11am:
It is absolutely about identifying an oppressor race, even if it concedes that an individual offender may not be aware he is an offender, in CRT that doesn't mitigate in favour of the oppressor race.


Given this is your bizarre hate fantasy, I won't bother asking for evidence

Wait, let me expose your ignorance.

Prove it

The proof is in the name - critical race theory. What sense would it make if it was not about race? And what about race? That racial bias imbues our decisions about social issues is a CRT claim. For the better or worse? For the worse, generally, as a dominant (oppressor) race arrogates the resources to inself to the detriment of the minority race.

You don't know what CRT means do you - except in the context of subverting it to advance the cause of social approval of non-normative sexual activity.

This form of cause-arrogation is common among certain groups with a divergent but obliquely similar agenda - like the current abuse of the term 'latinx', despite the contempt hispanic people have for the term.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #155 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:46am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:38am:
[]https://youtu.be/H9OUYehT_pw[]

Here he is. You've wheeled your dad out again.
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Reply #156 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:48am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 10:43am:
The proof is in the name - critical race theory. What sense would it make if it was not about race? And what about race? That racial bias imbues our decisions about social issues is a CRT claim. For the better or worse? For the worse, generally, as a dominant (oppressor) race arrogates the resources to inself to the detriment of the minority race.

You don't know what CRT means do you - except in the context of subverting it to advance the cause of social approval of non-normative sexual activity.

This form of cause-arrogation is common among certain groups with a divergent but obliquely similar agenda - like the current abuse of the term 'latinx', despite the contempt hispanic people have for the term.



OK, so you are stupid.  critical theory is the theory of examining how class has shaped society and hurt the working class.  Critical race theory is named as it is, to identify the source of the idea it has, although pertaining to race.  Nothing in the name implies what you want it to,

And yes, POC are worse off in every way, so it's clearly true.  But it's also a university level topic, and not present in high schools.

You are so obsessed with cock, lol..... Where have I mentioned sex in this thread? You cry about it constantly

I am unsure what latinx has to do with it, but I think it's a term used in porn? Is it in your search history?
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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #157 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:30am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 8:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 7:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 7:25pm:
The people who hate CRT don't even know what it is.

This has been proven over and over again.

The same goes for socialism.

Uneducated, right-wing sheep.


Not all people people who hate CRT don't know what it is; ...


Incorrect.

They have no smacking idea.

Morons.

How could you know that?

Can you define 'the right'?


Individual self-reliance associated with self-interest, personal responsibility**,  anti government-regulation of private sector activity, 'laissez faire',  small government, meaning low taxation - except for national defense, associated with nationalism and anti -internationalism.

**the only worthy item on this list which can be part of promoting universal well-being and security.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #158 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:33am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Individual self-reliance hating poor people, personal responsibility punishing how people are born  anti government-regulation of private sector activity demanding government only exist to hurt people, 'laissez faire',   small government, meaning low taxation tax breaks for the rich - except for national defense, associated with nationalism and anti -internationalism.

Didn't you know? 


Agreed.  Nationalism and anti internationalism - one thing you got right, fascism
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Reply #159 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:43am
 
Kendi’s thesis—that if the races are equal, then racial disparities can owe only to racism and must be rectified through “antiracist discrimination”—is a simplistic reiteration of critical race theory’s core concepts. As journalist Aaron Sibarium has documented, Kendi has borrowed ideas from critical race theory and translated them into a media-friendly narrative. “When I see racial disparities, I see racism,” Kendi says, excluding other explanations. His logic often descends into circularity: when asked to define the word “racism,” he told attendees at the Aspen Ideas Festival that it is “a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.”

In another nod to 1960s-style radicalism, Kendi also claims to oppose capitalism. “The life of racism cannot be separated from the life of capitalism,” he says. “In order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anti-capitalist.” But Kendi, like fellow traveler Patrisse Cullors of Black Lives Matter, is a prolific capitalist in his personal life. He charged Fairfax County schools $20,000 an hour for a virtual presentation and has merchandised his entire line of ideas, releasing self-help products and even an “antiracist” baby book. He has accepted millions from tech and pharmaceutical companies on behalf of his Antiracism Center. Fighting against capitalism, as it turns out, is a lucrative enterprise.

Posturing aside, Kendi’s actual proposals, from “defunding the police” to restricting free speech, are alarming. Kendi advocates race-based discrimination, arguing that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.” He proposes a federal Department of Antiracism that would be unaccountable to voters or legislators, permanently funded, and granted the power to suppress “racist ideas” and veto, nullify, or abolish any law at any level of government not deemed “antiracist.”

As Americans begin to consider his ideas more seriously, Kendi finds himself on the defensive. In recent months, he has released a series of short-tempered articles and statements, claiming that “there is no debate about critical race theory” one moment, then distancing himself from critical race theory the next—notwithstanding that, only two weeks before, he had claimed that critical race theory was “foundational” to his work. When he’s put on the spot, Kendi reverts to word games and deflection, rather than defending his position on substance.

https://www.city-journal.org/ibram-x-kendi-master-marketer

https://www.city-journal.org/search?searchterms=Critical%20race%20theory

Word games, circularity,  deflection - lefty radicals are all like that.

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Reply #160 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:44am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:33am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:30am:
Individual self-reliance hating poor people, personal responsibility punishing how people are born  anti government-regulation of private sector activity demanding government only exist to hurt people, 'laissez faire',   small government, meaning low taxation tax breaks for the rich - except for national defense, associated with nationalism and anti -internationalism.

Didn't you know? 


Agreed.  Nationalism and anti internationalism - one thing you got right, fascism


Interesting response; I'm interested to see Meister's "freedom values" critique of my list.

I attempted to define the Right from the Right's POV. You have critiqued my definition from the Left's POV.

Of course I agree with your real world substitutions - alternative meanings - for the items you crossed out.   
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Reply #161 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:48am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:43am:
Word games, circularity,  deflection - lefty radicals are all like that.



Explain why POC are worse off in every western society.  Explain how Jim Crow was not racism
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Reply #162 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:56am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:43am:
Posturing aside, Kendi’s actual proposals, from “defunding the police” to restricting free speech, are alarming. Kendi advocates race-based discrimination, arguing that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.” He proposes a federal Department of Antiracism that would be unaccountable to voters or legislators, permanently funded, and granted the power to suppress “racist ideas” and veto, nullify, or abolish any law at any level of government not deemed “antiracist.”


That's why I support an above-poverty Job Guarantee. The onus is on the Right to explain why their rejection of a JG is anything more than a claim to maximize their own selfish claims on the nation's productivity/output.

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As Americans begin to consider his ideas more seriously, Kendi finds himself on the defensive. In recent months, he has released a series of short-tempered articles and statements, claiming that “there is no debate about critical race theory” one moment, then distancing himself from critical race theory the next—notwithstanding that, only two weeks before, he had claimed that critical race theory was “foundational” to his work. When he’s put on the spot, Kendi reverts to word games and deflection, rather than defending his position on substance.

https://www.city-journal.org/ibram-x-kendi-master-marketer

https://www.city-journal.org/search?searchterms=Critical%20race%20theory

Word games, circularity,  deflection - lefty radicals are all like that.


Well I can agree with you, the mainstream Left tie themselves up in knots when they support the current neoliberal monetarism which guarantees poverty for the most disadvantaged among us - regardless of race..... nevertheless blacks on average  ARE  the most disadvantaged among us.
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Reply #163 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:57am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:56am:
Well I can agree with you, the mainstream Left tie themselves up in knots when they support the current neoliberal monetarism which guarantees poverty for the most disadvantages among us - regardless of race..... nevertheless blacks on average  ARE  the most disadvantaged among us.


This is WHY Democrats and Labor are not left wing Smiley 
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Reply #164 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 12:01pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:57am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:56am:
Well I can agree with you, the mainstream Left tie themselves up in knots when they support the current neoliberal monetarism which guarantees poverty for the most disadvantages among us - regardless of race..... nevertheless blacks on average  ARE  the most disadvantaged among us.


This is WHY Democrats and Labor are not left wing Smiley 


Of course, though mainstream economists have convinced the electorate Dems and Labor are left wing...
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