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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #165 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:05pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:30am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 8:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 8:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 7:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2022 at 7:25pm:

The people who hate CRT don't even know what it is.

This has been proven over and over again.

The same goes for socialism.

Uneducated, right-wing sheep.

Not all people people who hate CRT don't know what it is; ...

Incorrect.

They have no smacking idea.

Morons.

How could you know that?

Can you define 'the right'?

Individual self-reliance associated with self-interest, personal responsibility**, anti government-regulation of private sector activity, 'laissez faire', small government, meaning low taxation - except for national defense, associated with nationalism and anti -internationalism.

A copy and paste after hundreds of pages. Sad.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Pushback against CRT Reply #166 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:08pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:05pm: A copy and paste after hundreds of pages. Sad. You looking for an easy win after I dominated your BS on gays? I am often accused of copying and pasting, partially b/c I write quick and partially because I write long, thought out factual responses to right wing BS
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12579 Gender:	Re: Pushback against CRT Reply #167 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:10pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:48am: Nothing in the name implies what you want it to, Yes it does. That's why American civil rights activists advocated it.
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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #168 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:05pm:

A copy and paste after hundreds of pages. Sad.

Nope; an 'on the spot' good-faith definition of the Right, something you have neither the courage or the nous to do.

You can of course critique my list (as FTLW did) , or propose an alternative RW definition: or indeed define the Left..
Go on, show us what you've got or be exposed as an ideological fraud, joining the ranks of freediver (self admitted, in the 'privatisation' thread #24).

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #169 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:56am:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:43am:

Posturing aside, Kendi’s actual proposals, from “defunding the police” to restricting free speech, are alarming. Kendi advocates race-based discrimination, arguing that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.” He proposes a federal Department of Antiracism that would be unaccountable to voters or legislators, permanently funded, and granted the power to suppress “racist ideas” and veto, nullify, or abolish any law at any level of government not deemed “antiracist.”

That's why I support an above-poverty Job Guarantee. The onus is on the Right to explain why their rejection of a JG is anything more than a claim to maximize their own selfish claims on the nation's productivity/output.

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As Americans begin to consider his ideas more seriously, Kendi finds himself on the defensive. In recent months, he has released a series of short-tempered articles and statements, claiming that “there is no debate about critical race theory” one moment, then distancing himself from critical race theory the next—notwithstanding that, only two weeks before, he had claimed that critical race theory was “foundational” to his work. When he’s put on the spot, Kendi reverts to word games and deflection, rather than defending his position on substance.

https://www.city-journal.org/ibram-x-kendi-master-marketer

https://www.city-journal.org/search?searchterms=Critical%20race%20theory

Word games, circularity, deflection - lefty radicals are all like that.

Well I can agree with you, the mainstream Left tie themselves up in knots when they support the current neoliberal monetarism which guarantees poverty for the most disadvantaged among us - regardless of race..... nevertheless blacks on average ARE the most disadvantaged among us.

Needless to say, NONE of my quotes have anything to do with what you say in response to them.

I could post act Ii of Hamlet and you would still respond by banging on about job guarantee and neoliberal monetary policy and the rest of your very , very limited but fervent manias, The Great Nonsequitur.
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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #170 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:05pm:

A copy and paste after hundreds of pages. Sad.

You looking for an easy win after I dominated your BS on gays?

I am often accused of copying and pasting, partially b/c I write quick and partially because I write long, thought out factual responses to right wing BS

No you don't. You write reactively and emotionally.

It leads you to contradict yourself or deny you posted something just a page or so previously or on another thread.

And you have used 'the right' to refer to anyone who disagrees with you, regardless of the topic.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #172 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:17pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:13pm:

Needless to say, NONE of my quotes have anything to do with what you say in response to them.

I could post act Ii of Hamlet and you would still respond by banging on about job guarantee and neoliberal monetary policy and the rest of your very , very limited but fervent manias, The Great Nonsequitur.
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Needless to say, I decoded your code words. Your actions make that clear

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #173 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:18pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

No you don't. You write reactively and emotionally.

It leads you to contradict yourself or deny you posted something just a page or so previously or on another thread.

And you have used 'the right' to refer to anyone who disagrees with you, regardless of the topic.

I established a long time ago that none of you have the guts or IQ to debate me. I am here for a laugh. I am not emotional, I am not angry. I am mocking you.

This is a political board. On a music board, I won't use the right to define people who love beiber. Open your eyes,

List my contradictions? This is what right wing scum do, 'You're a facist' 'you contradicted yourself'

Prove it

*crickets*

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #174 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:22pm

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:13pm:

Needless to say, NONE of my quotes have anything to do with what you say in response to them.

I could post act Ii of Hamlet and you would still respond by banging on about job guarantee and neoliberal monetary policy and the rest of your very , very limited but fervent manias, The Great Nonsequitur.

Your response is a consequence of demanding I get caught up in Kendi's contradictions, which I refuse to do.

A decent functional economy, one which puts people before monetarist dogma - which you insist is irrelevent - would eliminate inane calls for "defunding the police" because social cohesion increases when extreme inequality is reduced.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #175 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:23pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:22pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:13pm:

Needless to say, NONE of my quotes have anything to do with what you say in response to them.

I could post act Ii of Hamlet and you would still respond by banging on about job guarantee and neoliberal monetary policy and the rest of your very , very limited but fervent manias, The Great Nonsequitur.

Your response is a consequence of demanding I get caught up in Kendi's contradictions, which I refuse to do.

A decent functional economy, one which puts people before monetarist dogma - which you insist is irrelevent - would eliminate inane calls for "defunding the police" because social cohesion increases when extreme inequality is reduced.

It also increases when you defund the police

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #176 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:24pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:18pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

No you don't. You write reactively and emotionally.

It leads you to contradict yourself or deny you posted something just a page or so previously or on another thread.

And you have used 'the right' to refer to anyone who disagrees with you, regardless of the topic.

I established a long time ago that none of you have the guts or IQ to debate me. I am here for a laugh. I am not emotional, I am not angry. I am mocking you.

This is a political board. On a music board, I won't use the right to define people who love beiber. Open your eyes,

List my contradictions? This is what right wing scum do, 'You're a facist' 'you contradicted yourself'

Prove it

*crickets*

Your use of emotional invective is how you survived your formative years, I get that.

When you get as old as you and you're still doing it, well, it's not wit, it's arrested development.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #177 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:25pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:10pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 10:48am:

Nothing in the name implies what you want it to,

Yes it does. That's why American civil rights activists advocated it.

No, you are merely an idiot. I explained the name, are you illiterate?

No you didn't , you skimmed the surface of wikipedia.

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #178 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:26pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

No you don't. You write reactively and emotionally.

It leads you to contradict yourself or deny you posted something just a page or so previously or on another thread.

And you have used 'the right' to refer to anyone who disagrees with you, regardless of the topic.

Meanwhile. #168 is sitting there...your response?

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Re: Pushback against CRT
Reply #179 - Jul 17^th, 2022 at 12:28pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 11:30am:

Individual self-reliance associated with self-interest, personal responsibility**, anti government-regulation of private sector activity, 'laissez faire', small government, meaning low taxation - except for national defense, associated with nationalism and anti -internationalism.

**the only worthy item on this list which can be part of promoting universal well-being and security.

Didn't you know?

And so the definition of the Left:

Full reliance on government, abrogation of individuality and personal responsibility with it, everything regulated by government, including personal activities and views, speech thought, association, press, conscience; high taxation, minimal or no national defence, abolition of national culture, customs in favour of the international Big Beige (and Red).

Government officials and regulators and enforcers are selected, obviously, with zero regard for their personal, individual integrity and merit since these are BAD. Selected by??? Selected how?

Hideous. Russia in the 30s, China in the 60s.

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