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Reply #405 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 1:50pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
More evidence of the current crop of neoclassical central bankers' pathology:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/futures-pare-losses-after-jobless-claims...

Futures pare losses after jobless claims data

...unemployment increases, so stocks rise on the idea that Powell won't hike rates so sharply.

....rising unemployment is a 'good' thing -  economic orthodoxy gone mad, with no relation to functional economic reality.


Central bankers - are they your problem ?
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Reply #406 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 9:18am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 1:50pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 1:44pm:
More evidence of the current crop of neoclassical central bankers' pathology:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/futures-pare-losses-after-jobless-claims...

Futures pare losses after jobless claims data

...unemployment increases, so stocks rise on the idea that Powell won't hike rates so sharply.

....rising unemployment is a 'good' thing -  economic orthodoxy gone mad, with no relation to functional economic reality.


Central bankers - are they your problem ?


Yes...and everyone's:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2023/03/10/michael-pascoe-serena-wilson-robod...

Michael Pascoe: Coalition had more bullets for the ‘undeserving’ poor.

"The Coalition had a strong view of ‘deserving’ and ‘undeserving’ poor. From the 2014 budget through to the 2018 budget, the vast majority of my work involved identifying savings options to cut social security expenditure.

Why are central bankers the problem, you ask?

Because central bankers are central (excuse the pun) in maintaining the mythology that currency-issuing governments' budgets are like households' budgets, hence the need to "identify savings options" just as households need to do (except the super rich).   

A centuries-old  mythology based on money-lenders (aka bankers) having the sole privilege of money creation.
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Reply #407 - Mar 12th, 2023 at 3:25pm
 
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=60690

The current inflationary period is not remotely like the 1970s
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Reply #408 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:06pm
 
Michael Hudson on the current SVB crisis :

The breakup of banks that is now occurring is the inevitable result of the way in which the Obama Administration bailed out the banks in 2008. When real estate prices collapsed, the Federal Reserve flooded the financial system with fifteen years of Quantitative Easing to re-inflate real estate prices – and with them, stock and bond prices.

    What was inflated were asset prices – above all for the packaged mortgages that banks were holding, but also for stocks and bonds across the board. That is what bank credit does. It made trillions of dollars for holders of financial assets – the One Percent and a bit more. The economy polarized as stock prices recovered, the cost of home ownership soared (on low-interest mortgages) and the U.S. economy experienced the largest bond-market boom in history as interest rates fell below One Percent.

    But in serving the financial sector, the Fed painted itself into a corner: What would happen when interest rates finally rose?

    Rising interest rates cause bond prices to fall. And that is what has been happening under the Fed's fight against "inflation," by which it means rising wage levels. Prices are plunging for bonds, and also for the capitalized value of packaged mortgages and other securities in which banks hold their assets against depositors.

    The result today is similar to the situation that S&Ls found themselves in the 1980s, leading to their demise. S&Ls had made long-term mortgages at affordable interest rates. But in the wake of the Volcker inflation, the overall level of interest rates rose. S&Ls could not pay higher their depositors higher rates, because their revenue from their mortgages was fixed at lower rates. So depositors withdrew their money.

    To obtain the money to pay these depositors, S&Ls had to sell their mortgages. But the face value of these debts was lower, as a result of higher rates. The S&Ls (and many banks) owed money to depositors short-term, but were locked into long-term assets at falling prices.

    This is what is happening to banks today. That is the corner into which the Fed has painted the economy. Recognition of this problem led the Fed to avoid it for as long as it could. But when employment began to pick up and wages began to recover, the Fed could not resist fighting the usual class war against labor. And it has turned into a war against the banking system as well.

    Silverlake was the first to go. It had sought to ride the cryptocurrency wave, by serving as a bank for various brand names. After SBF's vast fraud was exposed, there was a run on cryptocurrencies. Their managers paid by withdrawing the deposits they had at the banks – above all, Silverlake. It went under.

    That was a "special case," given its specialized deposit base. Silicon Valley Bank also was a specialized case, lending to IT startups. And New Republic was also specialized, lending to wealthy depositors in the San Francisco and northern California area. All had seen the market price of their financial securities decline as Chairman Jerome Powell raised the Fed's interest rates. And now, their deposits were being withdrawn, forcing them to sell securities at a loss. Reuters reported on Friday that bank reserves at the Fed were plunging. That hardly is surprising, as banks are paying about 0.2 percent on deposits, while depositors can withdraw their money to buy two-year U.S. Treasury notes yielding 3.8 or almost 4 percent. No wonder well-to-do investors are running from the banks.

    This is the quandary in which banks – and behind them, the Fed – find themselves.

    The obvious question is why the Fed doesn't simply bail them out. The problem is that the falling prices for long-term bank assets in the face of short-term deposit liabilities now looks like the New Normal. The Fed can lend banks for their current short-fall – but how can solvency be resolved without sharply reducing interest rates to restore the 15-year Abnormal Zero Interest-Rate Policy (ZIRP)?

    Interest yields spiked on Friday, March 10. As more workers were being hired than was expected, Mr. Powell announced that the Fed might have to raise interest rates even higher than he had warned. Volatility increased.

    And with it came a source of turmoil that has reached vast magnitudes beyond what caused the 2008 crash of AIG and other speculators: derivatives.

    JP Morgan Chase and other New York banks have tens of dollars trillions of derivatives, that is, casino bets on which way interest rates, bond prices, stock prices and other measures will change. For every winning guess, there is a loser. When trillions of dollars are bet on, some bank trader is bound to wind up with a loss that can easily wipe out the bank's entire net equity.

    There is now a flight to "cash," to a safe haven – something even better than cash: U.S. Treasury securities. Despite the talk of Republicans refusing to raise the debt ceiling, the Treasury can always print the money to pay its bondholders. It looks like the Treasury will become the new depository of choice for those who have the financial resources. Bank deposits will fall. And with them, bank holdings of reserves at the Fed.

    So far, the stock market has resisted following the plunge in bond prices. My guess is that we will now see the Great Unwinding of the Great Fictitious Capital boom of 2008-2015.


Michael Hudson.
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Reply #409 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:35am
 
Re the SVB debacle, Dr Steven Hail tweets:

"It is so obvious that rising interest rates drive capital losses on bonds for unhedged institutions needing to sell that it makes Steve's point (in #410) seem very simple.

Our institutions are run by people who are (mis-)educated to ignore the realities of the monetary system."



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Reply #410 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:39am
 
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Reply #411 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:59am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:39am:


WTF is Steve Keen????

Meantime .... read here 👇 Is this the same entity you’re referring to?


https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/us-bank-silvergate-capital-goes...
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Reply #412 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:00am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:59am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:39am:


WTF is Steve Keen????

Meantime .... read here 👇

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/us-bank-silvergate-capital-goes...


A major US bank that has been teetering on the edge of collapse in the past week has officially gone under.
On Wednesday local time (Thursday night Australian time), Silvergate Capital announced it had gone into voluntary liquidation.

“In light of recent industry and regulatory developments, Silvergate believes that an orderly wind down of Bank operations and a voluntary liquidation of the Bank is the best path forward,” it said in a statement.m

As part of its winding down proceedings, the bank plans to ensure “full repayment of all deposits” for customers.

Last Friday, news.com.au reported that the Californian-based bank was on the brink of collapse.

Silvergate, a traditional bank founded in 1987 and based in California, increasingly delved into the digital asset space.

The firm lent out most of its funds to crypto exchanges and as a result it was hit hard by the collapse of $32 billion (A$47.45 billion) exchange FTX.

Silvergate is reportedly the first traditional bank to be sucked into the domino effect of FTX’s bankruptcy, dubbed the ‘FTX contagion’.




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Reply #413 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:07am
 
Continued from my previous post :

US Senator Elizabeth Warren said the writing had been on the wall for the bank.

She said some of its loans verged on illegal and was not at all surprised by the news of its collapse.

“As the bank of choice for crypto, Silvergate Bank’s failure is disappointing, but predictable,” she wrote.

“Now, customers must be made whole & regulators should step up against crypto risk.”

In the last three months, Silvergate bled US$1 billion (A$1.5 billion), as its losses racked up as panic set in among crypto investors and exchanges.

Just a week earlier, Silvergate had been contemplating its fate.

The firm announced to the country’s corporate regulator, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), that it would not be able to file its annual report to deadline while it deliberated on its ability to survive.

Off the back of the news, 24 hours later, the bank’s share price plummeted a whopping 55 per cent.

Silvergate’s stock is down 67 per cent so far this year.

In total, Silvergate’s stock has fallen 97 per cent from its all-time high in November 2021, 18 months ago.



Ok .... NotsoGreat: I’m listening.

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Reply #414 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:37am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:00am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 9:59am:
[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1645944963/410#410 date=1678750743]https://profstevekeen.substack.com/p/silicon-valley-bank-the-feds-role?utm_sourc...

Silicon Valley Bank: The Fed’s Role in its Downfall


WTF is Steve Keen????


(quick google)

"Steve Keen is an Australian economist and author. He is a post-Keynesian, criticising neoclassical economics as inconsistent, unscientific and empirically unsupported.

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Born: 28 March 1953 (age 69 years), Sydney
Influenced by: Hyman Minsky, John Maynard Keynes,
Education: UNSW Sydney (1998), UNSW Sydney (1990),
Nationality: Australian
Edited works: Commerce, Complexity, and Evolution: Topics in Economics, Finance, Marketing, and Management: Proceedings of the Twelfth International Symposium in Economic Theory and Econometrics,
Contributions: Mathematical models of financial crises and debt-deflation

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Meantime .... read here 👇

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/us-bank-silvergate-capital-goes...


A major US bank that has been teetering on the edge of collapse in the past week has officially gone under.
On Wednesday local time (Thursday night Australian time), Silvergate Capital announced it had gone into voluntary liquidation.

“In light of recent industry and regulatory developments, Silvergate believes that an orderly wind down of Bank operations and a voluntary liquidation of the Bank is the best path forward,” it said in a statement.m

As part of its winding down proceedings, the bank plans to ensure “full repayment of all deposits” for customers.

Last Friday, news.com.au reported that the Californian-based bank was on the brink of collapse.

Silvergate, a traditional bank founded in 1987 and based in California, increasingly delved into the digital asset space.

The firm lent out most of its funds to crypto exchanges and as a result it was hit hard by the collapse of $32 billion (A$47.45 billion) exchange FTX.

Silvergate is reportedly the first traditional bank to be sucked into the domino effect of FTX’s bankruptcy, dubbed the ‘FTX contagion’.


Silvergate is a different  bank to SVB (Silicon Valley Bank):

"Silvergate, a major lender in the crypto sector, announced plans to liquidate its bank and wind down operations on Wednesday. SVB (Silicon Valley Bank), at the time the 16th largest bank in the country and a key lender in the tech space, collapsed on Friday. Another bank, Signature, followed in its footsteps on Sunday.11 hours ago


and.....

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/13/investing/european-banks-svb-collapse/index.h...

EU banking stocks  suffer biggest drop in a year.
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Reply #415 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:47am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 14th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Continued from my previous post :

US Senator Elizabeth Warren said the writing had been on the wall for the bank.

She said some of its loans verged on illegal and was not at all surprised by the news of its collapse.

“As the bank of choice for crypto, Silvergate Bank’s failure is disappointing, but predictable,” she wrote.

“Now, customers must be made whole & regulators should step up against crypto risk.”

In the last three months, Silvergate bled US$1 billion (A$1.5 billion), as its losses racked up as panic set in among crypto investors and exchanges.

Just a week earlier, Silvergate had been contemplating its fate.

The firm announced to the country’s corporate regulator, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), that it would not be able to file its annual report to deadline while it deliberated on its ability to survive.

Off the back of the news, 24 hours later, the bank’s share price plummeted a whopping 55 per cent.

Silvergate’s stock is down 67 per cent so far this year.

In total, Silvergate’s stock has fallen 97 per cent from its all-time high in November 2021, 18 months ago.



Ok .... NotsoGreat: I’m listening.


Good. By now (after post #414) you would know European bankers are ALSO "listening", with EU bank shares suffering falls of 10% overnight (radio news)


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Reply #416 - Mar 15th, 2023 at 9:28am
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJrBR0lg6s

How to Save the Planet: Degrowth vs Green Growth?
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Reply #417 - Mar 15th, 2023 at 5:38pm
 
OMG,  the complexity of finance.....and the ultimate method to manage bank f**k- ups is always: 'socialize the losses, and privatize the gains':

https://www.crisesnotes.com/every-complex-banking-issue-all-at-once-the-failure-...

EVERY COMPLEX BANKING ISSUE ALL AT ONCE: THE FAILURE OF SILICON VALLEY BANK IN ONE BRIEF SUMMARY AND FIVE QUICK IMPLICATIONS


If you look at the world the way Rohan and I do, deposit outflow as a result of digital fiat currency, bank accounts directly provided by the Federal Reserve to the public and/or postal banking is a feature not a bug. Once we separate and clearly distinguish payments processing from bank lending, we can see that all chartered bank deposits do is paper over the fundamental contradiction between the assets we let banks acquire through their own money creation and the lack of official backstop in good times for holding those assets through direct borrowing from the Federal Reserve. It is absolutely perverse to intentionally weaken new technologies and better payment processing options out of fear of banks “losing deposit funding”. The gap between the terms and quantities that banks can access the discount window and the terms and quantities banks can create bank deposits is a gap measuring the extent to which our financial regulatory and banking regime is lying to both ourselves and each other. Why would we want banks to control payments processing and credit to the non-financial economy? If we can separate these businesses, and we can, then we should.

The public sector should not be freed from this nonsense.
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Reply #418 - Mar 16th, 2023 at 9:25am
 
More evidence of the madness of the current monetary orthodoxy and associated neoclassical economics:  seen on twitter: 


Heidi N. Moore
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I don't know if it's "financial media", though? It's guys like Larry Summers who were calling for higher unemployment to fight inflation, and now are pulling for bank bailouts to...prevent unemployment.
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Reply #419 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 8:42am
 
Dr. Steven Hail tweeted:

Exactly! Neoclassical economics - including Nobels - is of no use whatsoever when encountering the monetary system (or the climate system, for that matter).

in response to some sarcasm from  @RomanchukBrian:

"Why don’t they use the Diamond-Dybvig model to solve the problems with Credit Suisse? They won a Nobel* Prize for it, so it has to be very useful".
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