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Reply #750 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 12:19pm
 
(following from previous post)

Interesting comment from a tweeter (now X) after seeing  the film 'Finding the Money':

I’m 70.  I remember Reagan talking about 'unsustainable debt' when I was in my 30s. But it was seeing Eisenhower say the same thing when I was 5 (in
@FindingMoneyDoc) that really blew my mind. I’m the grandchild they warned would have to pay it back.


Ah - yes, and he's still waiting to "pay it back"..... 

Followed by a humorous comment from another  tweeter:

"You're just too young; live to 100 and then you will see"

and a more serious comment:

"And for those who don’t know, the (government) debt increased at a then historic rate under Reagan due to “trickle down” tax cuts that put us on the road to massive levels of inequality we now have.
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Reply #751 - Feb 25th, 2024 at 11:01am
 
(continued, from the linked article)

Money creation

A key point of Finding the Money is governments, and banks for that matter, create money. Governments by spending, banks by lending. Additionally it argues government taxes "destroy money," which is probably something those of a libertarian bent could agree with.

We certainly witnessed money creation in the Reserve Bank's efforts to prop the economy up during the pandemic.

When Covid-19 hit in March 2020, tipping the world into massive economic disruption and uncertainty, the Reserve Bank embarked, for the first time, on quantitative easing, or QE. This saw the Reserve Bank buy about $53 billion worth of government and local government bonds from a range of banks with newly created money. Additionally home lending banks were able to access $19 billion of three-year money priced at the Official Cash Rate, just 0.25% for most of the period, through the Reserve Bank's Funding for Lending Programme.

The Government hadn't first raised taxes or embarked on bond issuing programmes to fund these central bank initiatives. So if money can be created, or printed, to buy government bonds or be provided for banks to lend, surely it can also be created to do other things?


On the issue of banks creating money (when they lend):

As for banks, the film argues private banks create money, rather than the conventional idea they lend other people’s money, and this can also add to inflationary pressure.

If banks lent other people’s money; "we wouldn’t get global financial crises, we would not get speculative bubbles in housing," Wray argues.


Note, just as private banks create money 'out of thin air' when they write loans in the private sector, currency-issuing governments can be authorized to create money out of thin air when they spend money on available goods and services, to fund public sector policies (educarion, health, housing, infrastructure, research). 



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Reply #752 - Feb 25th, 2024 at 11:41am
 
Solar is free.
Solar is for energy.
Plants convert Solar into Energy.

Humans say such things don't work, because they try to convert Solar into Money.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #753 - Feb 25th, 2024 at 12:30pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 25th, 2024 at 11:41am:
Solar is free.
Solar is for energy.
Plants convert Solar into Energy.

Humans say such things don't work,


Wrong; all humans say everything you said above is correct.

ie

Sunshine is free,
Solar (sunshine) powers (energizes) PVs,
Plant (solar) photo-synthesis is real.

Quote:
because they try to convert Solar into Money.


They have been converting fossil fuels (solar energy stored in secondary forms  created over millions of years)  to Money for more than a century.

We now have to convert solar (and wind) directly into energy, most sensibly funded by the state (public sector)  which doesn't need to make money out of the process, because the currency-issuing state can create money out of thin air (see previous posts...)


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Reply #754 - Feb 26th, 2024 at 5:12pm
 
(continued, from the linked article)

Money creation

A key point of Finding the Money is governments, and banks for that matter, create money. Governments by spending, banks by lending. Additionally it argues government taxes "destroy money," which is probably something those of a libertarian bent could agree with.

We certainly witnessed money creation in the Reserve Bank's efforts to prop the economy up during the pandemic.

When Covid-19 hit in March 2020, tipping the world into massive economic disruption and uncertainty, the Reserve Bank embarked, for the first time, on quantitative easing, or QE. This saw the Reserve Bank buy about $53 billion worth of government and local government bonds from a range of banks with newly created money. Additionally home lending banks were able to access $19 billion of three-year money priced at the Official Cash Rate, just 0.25% for most of the period, through the Reserve Bank's Funding for Lending Programme.

The Government hadn't first raised taxes or embarked on bond issuing programmes to fund these central bank initiatives. So if money can be created, or printed, to buy government bonds or be provided for banks to lend, surely it can also be created to do other things?


On the issue of banks creating money (when they lend):

As for banks, the film argues private banks create money, rather than the conventional idea they lend other people’s money, and this can also add to inflationary pressure.

If banks lent other people’s money; "we wouldn’t get global financial crises, we would not get speculative bubbles in housing," Wray argues.


Note, just as private banks create money 'out of thin air' when they write loans in the private sector, currency-issuing governments can be authorized to create money out of thin air when they spend money on available goods and services, to fund public sector policies (education, health, housing, infrastructure, research). 




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Reply #755 - Feb 27th, 2024 at 9:02am
 


"They have an army" - that's how @DennisKelleher
describes the financial industry lobbyists who fight common sense laws and financial protection rules to protect ordinary Americans.



https://bettermarkets.org/
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Reply #756 - Feb 28th, 2024 at 8:46am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/we-are-taking-a-devastating-risk-with-the-...

We are taking a devastating risk with the green energy sector – one that might cost us our future

The main cause of this sluggish performance is low profitability. Bluntly stated, clean energy – developing and operating solar and windfarms, and selling the electricity they generate – simply isn’t a very attractive business. Returns are typically in the 5-8% range. Compare that with oil and gas production, where returns generally exceed 15%, and it’s little wonder clean energy stocks have been falling while oil and gas shares outperform. True, oil and gas companies receive state subsidies, but so do their clean-energy counterparts. The consequence of the sector’s abject performance is low investment in new solar and wind generating capacity. The only major country where investment in clean energy in recent years has been growing fast – let alone fast enough to potentially stave off catastrophe – is China.
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Reply #757 - Feb 29th, 2024 at 10:04am
 
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Reply #758 - Mar 2nd, 2024 at 9:14am
 
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=61604

Apparently the bond vigilantes are saddling up – on their ride to oblivion
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Reply #759 - Mar 3rd, 2024 at 6:44am
 
Henry Snow's critique of Yanis Varoufakis' book ' 'Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism'; a view of the current global economic system,  from the Left:

https://jacobin.com/2023/10/cloud-capitalism-technofeudalism-serfs-cloud-big-dat...

We’re Still Living Under Capitalism, Not “Techno-Feudalism”

Varoufakis’s account of recent economic and financial history is often commendable despite these errors. Key in his view to the rise of cloud capital is central bank policy. With money flowing freely from central banks, firms like Amazon focused on cornering “total market dominance” rather than profit, growing while hemorrhaging money. Varoufakis’s synthesis of internet and monetary events accessibly captures the flaws of our broken financialized world.
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Reply #760 - Mar 4th, 2024 at 1:09pm
 
Prof. Steve Keen, in 'Debunking Economics':

The UK Debt Office has started selling bonds to retail investors through the primary market.  Previously the only way you could buy government bonds was through financial institutions, through ETFs, for example. The reason given for opening it up to consumers is that it will allow them to “contribute more significantly to meeting the overall financing requirement”. That makes it sound like they are concerned that there won’t be sufficient demand from institutional investors, including the banks. Steve Keen says what they probably don’t understand is this move will actually shrink the amount of money in circulation. That’s probably a bad move in a stagnant economy. To make matters worse, they are hell bent on selling off the government’s shareholding of the Nat West group, which will have a similar impact.

All because the government erroneously thinks it needs 'taxpayer money' (as opposed to some of the nation's  resources).
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Reply #761 - Mar 5th, 2024 at 8:06am
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/04/exxon-chief-public-climate-failu...

Fury after Exxon chief says public to blame for climate failures

Darren Woods says consumers not willing to pay for clean-energy transition, prompting backlash from climate experts

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Good one Darren, blame the consumers, not the producers.....

Anyway, it's good to know (if the increase in climate-related disasters continues),  the public sector can pay for the transition with public money created out of thin air...as opposed to "taxpayer money" extracted from taxpayers.

And Darren can retire on his fossil-fuel-sourced wealth....

The shocking thing is Woods is aware the damage his industry causes: 

"“The dirty secret nobody talks about is how much all this is going to cost and who’s willing to pay for it,” he told Fortune last week. “The people who are generating those emissions need to be aware of and pay the price for generating those emissions. That is ultimately how you solve the problem."

In other words, he wants consumers ("the people who are generating those emissions") to pay to maintain the profitability of Exxon while it changes from a fossil to a renewable company, or more likely (as is revealed in the article) , while it attempts to invent technology which can capture CO2 emissions from fossil fuels -  paid for by the public via carbon taxes.   
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Reply #762 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 8:57am
 
One of the most  damaging 'shared beliefs' ("intersubjective realities" according to freediver...) in politics is Thatcher's lie; "There is no such thing as public money, only taxpayer money". 

A false belief fully exposed in Maren Poitras' new film 'Finding the Money', being screened in theatres around Oz,  starting this week.

Film schedule here:

https://modernmoneylab.org.au/events/film-tour/

"This documentary lifts the lid on how money works, injecting new hope and empowering democracies around the world to tackle climate change and inequality".

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Reply #763 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 10:27am
 
Another example of the damage caused by mainstream belief in Thatcher's lie (noted in the previous post):

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/tens-of-thousands-more-jobs-must-go-to-f...

Tens of thousands more jobs must go to finally crack this cost-of-living crisis, economists say

.....

"Economists"?

Obviously not - rather, purveyors of obsolete flat-earth ideology.   


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Reply #764 - Mar 13th, 2024 at 9:13am
 
Professor Stephanie Kelton (visiting Australia this week) confirms currency-issuing governments can create money out of thin air to fund government spending, provided the resources sought by the government are available for purchase (by the government), to avoid inflation. 

It's time to abandon the 'government debt is bad' mythology; a currency-issuing government doesn't NEED to tax or sell interest-bearing bonds in order to fund government spending; rather, a currency-issuing government needs to take stock of the nation's resources and productive capacity, when deciding how to allocate government spending.
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