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Reply #60 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 7:06am
 
By mistake I joined a self checkout queue at Coles a few days ago—this was a manned checkout originally. Talking to the woman in front of me as she scanned her items I remarked it takes longer to do the self checkout than if it was a manned checkout. I hastened to add I was not hassling her, just making an observation. She agreed but hard to find manned checkouts.

So we take longer so the store makes some more money.
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Reply #61 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 7:38am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 1:13am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 10:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 12:58am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15th, 2022 at 7:33pm:
I don't bitch about the price of groceries because they have to pay another $200 to have some service person man the checkout counters.

I'm perfectly happy to pay extra if it provides jobs for people.

I paid $2.20/litre for petrol today (self-serve is the only option), and $9 for a bottle of mouth wash - couldn't care less.


More like $200 to pay 2 teens to work 6 hours. Or maybe 3 people working 4 hours shifts, manning the checkouts. But it comes down to moving 2 people away from the checkouts to stacking those shelves and saving the store money on not needing to babysit some old man that does not know how to scan a few items himself.

We had 2 people on checkouts tonight when I was doing my shopping. Given that it was near 8pm, it is fair that they only had 2 checkouts open to serve the 5 people getting served in that 10 minute window. Why would you want to have a third or fourth person sitting at the checkout waiting on someone else after the 1 person they served is gone. Waste of labour money.

You paid $2.20/L today. I bet you are the type of person that uses his car regularly, too. Would you rather pay $1.10/L and self-serve. Or would you rather pay the $2.20/L and have someone from the service station pumping your fuel for you?



If it creates more jobs, I have no problem paying more for goods and services.



Oh, bull-f'n'-sheeit. $2.17/L to fill up my car tonight (plus some for my mower fuel). I would not pay another 5c/L to pay someone to come out and pump my fuel. It is such an easy task that it would be demeaning to have someone else do it for me. Take your 20 items to the self-checkouts and do your own scanning. The designated checkout operators are too busy trying to help old people too technophobic from learning new things.

I swear that there are too many people in this country that think paying more to have people scan and bag, or wash the windscreens, check your oil, and pump your fuel. Perhaps we need to bring back people that go around knocking on your bedroom windows to wake you up and replace that darn alarm clock. Or maybe a water carrier to replace those pesky pipes leading from the town's water reserves.

Wake up and smell the coffee -- before you start accusing that product of stealing income from tea or milo brands. Being a luddite in the 21st century will soon leave Australia having to fall behind places like Indonesia in technology. Ironically, their catch up will have us competing better with them.


Just ignore Bwian aka Gwoggy aka Laugh Til We Laugh At Him aka Jim Slackey aka Moosetupha Can't Troll hard enough...

He's absolutely off his face and talking utter invented BS again.

And he posted 2 comments yesterday which I copied and took a screenshot of before he could edit or delete them. Why? Both comments clearly indicate how unhinged his full time multi troll mindset is these days. Do not believe his comment above. It is a filthy and unhinged lie by an unwell man who has not worked for at least 15 years (that I know of).

What I do is this : I follow the principles my migrant parents taught me :

• Always do the right thing wrt money matters. Don't waste it. Invest it in your health and welfare and future. And your children's future. And always remember the vulnerable poor around you.

This is why today .... I'm in a very financially secure position with my husband. I've stuck to mum n dad's philosophy.

I STILL remember being around 4 and sitting on a normal chair at the kitchen table and watching my parents talk about money. It was never about MAKING money. It was about SAVING money. They kept repeating the word : economia <--- it means to economise ie save.

And that's all I knew growing up. My life was about growing organic fruit n veg ( Mum n Dad had a mini farm happening ffs with chooks etc ).

And that's why 2 teenage migrants with no education and no English language skills and no money and no support who came to Sydney with nothing but dreams and hope in 1965.....had FOUR houses by the time I was born!

Both worked 2 to 3 jobs each all the time and saved.

My uncles and aunts by marriage did even better! They owned factories as well as homes. But that's because my uncles had trades skills/qualifications.

Mum n Dad taught us to remember those around us who couldn't cope financially. If your standard of living increases so should your standard of giving. And through that we were taught the important principle of BEING GRATEFUL and the principle of SHARING.

And as a little kid I watched what this did. It kickstarted a synergistic chain reaction involving community network development driven by positive energy and happiness. Yes HAPPINESS. Being HAPPY! That's what life is supposed to be about!

The only complaint I have about my European childhood is that we never had a pet dog or pet bird or pet kitten like the kids at school. Ours was always a pet lamb. My cousins had pet goats.

The peculiar thing about our pets? Every so often these animals needed to apparently return to their homes far away on some farm for the farm air was good for their health. They would then come back. Looking the same. 😐
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Reply #62 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 7:45am
 
Lisa ive figgered out what you are trying to do. I expect you are failing. You are trying to gaslight greggery

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Reply #63 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:14am
 
Exposing the dangerous lie of a full time multi cyber troll who hasn't worked at all for the past 15 yrs that I've had the displeasure of knowing him is not gaslighting.

It's called speaking up and speaking out.

I suggest you look up the term gaslighting ASAP. I myself survived that terrible form of abuse in my first marriage.

Edit : For the benefit of Spot

definition of gaslighting is "an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim - having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.

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Reply #64 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:42am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Exposing the dangerous lie of a full time multi cyber troll who hasn't worked at all for the past 15 yrs that I've had the displeasure of knowing him is not gaslighting.

It's called speaking up and speaking out.

I suggest you look up the term gaslighting ASAP. I myself survived that terrible form of abuse in my first marriage.

Edit : For the benefit of Spot

definition of gaslighting is "an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim - having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.



Yeah dont try it on me either

"Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that often occurs in abusive relationships. It is a covert type of emotional abuse where the bully or abuser misleads the target, creating a false narrative and making them question their judgments and reality."

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Reply #65 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:50am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:42am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Exposing the dangerous lie of a full time multi cyber troll who hasn't worked at all for the past 15 yrs that I've had the displeasure of knowing him is not gaslighting.

It's called speaking up and speaking out.

I suggest you look up the term gaslighting ASAP. I myself survived that terrible form of abuse in my first marriage.

Edit : For the benefit of Spot

definition of gaslighting is "an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim - having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.



Yeah dont try it on me either

"Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that often occurs in abusive relationships. It is a covert type of emotional abuse where the bully or abuser misleads the target, creating a false narrative and making them question their judgments and reality."

Spot


You do realise that I'm in no relationship with a fake multi troll like Groggy or any of his multis you blooming fool!

No that FACT passed you by.

Seriously Spot....do me a favour and don't post at me. I don't enjoy correcting fools like you. Ta.


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Reply #66 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 9:01am
 
Loathe them - every time I get going in earnest, that snide female voice comes in to tell me I'm doing it wrong - I can get that anywhere, so I don't need it from a machine... they need a strong male visionary voice to ordnung people how to do things right.....

I PUT the bag there!


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Reply #67 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 10:32am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 8:14am:
Exposing the dangerous lie of a full time multi cyber troll who hasn't worked at all for the past 15 yrs that I've had the displeasure of knowing him is not gaslighting.

It's called speaking up and speaking out.

I suggest you look up the term gaslighting ASAP. I myself survived that terrible form of abuse in my first marriage.

Edit : For the benefit of Spot

definition of gaslighting is "an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim - having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.




I suggest you look up the term 'unhinged'.

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Reply #68 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 10:36am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 9:01am:
Loathe them - every time I get going in earnest, that snide female voice comes in to tell me I'm doing it wrong - I can get that anywhere, so I don't need it from a machine... they need a strong male visionary voice to ordnung people how to do things right.....

I PUT the bag there!


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Yep. I hate the bloody things. Once I asked the woman overseeing these things if I got a staff discount. She gave an embarrassed laugh and moved away. 
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Reply #69 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:40am
 
Belgarion wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 10:36am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 9:01am:
Loathe them - every time I get going in earnest, that snide female voice comes in to tell me I'm doing it wrong - I can get that anywhere, so I don't need it from a machine... they need a strong male visionary voice to ordnung people how to do things right.....

I PUT the bag there!


https://i.gifer.com/origin/68/68c21842f4c24e6223dc046d322549c6_w200.gif


Yep. I hate the bloody things. Once I asked the woman overseeing these things if I got a staff discount. She gave an embarrassed laugh and moved away. 


Have you noticed that many also have a checkout person in the self checkout area to assist people who get stuck?

If that checkout person opened up another register instead...customers would probably be out the door faster anyway.

Keep meaning to ask ....has anyone ever seen an Aldi self checkout?

I've never seen one.



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Reply #70 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:44am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 1:13am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 10:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 16th, 2022 at 12:58am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15th, 2022 at 7:33pm:
I don't bitch about the price of groceries because they have to pay another $200 to have some service person man the checkout counters.

I'm perfectly happy to pay extra if it provides jobs for people.

I paid $2.20/litre for petrol today (self-serve is the only option), and $9 for a bottle of mouth wash - couldn't care less.


More like $200 to pay 2 teens to work 6 hours. Or maybe 3 people working 4 hours shifts, manning the checkouts. But it comes down to moving 2 people away from the checkouts to stacking those shelves and saving the store money on not needing to babysit some old man that does not know how to scan a few items himself.

We had 2 people on checkouts tonight when I was doing my shopping. Given that it was near 8pm, it is fair that they only had 2 checkouts open to serve the 5 people getting served in that 10 minute window. Why would you want to have a third or fourth person sitting at the checkout waiting on someone else after the 1 person they served is gone. Waste of labour money.

You paid $2.20/L today. I bet you are the type of person that uses his car regularly, too. Would you rather pay $1.10/L and self-serve. Or would you rather pay the $2.20/L and have someone from the service station pumping your fuel for you?



If it creates more jobs, I have no problem paying more for goods and services.



Oh, bull-f'n'-sheeit. $2.17/L to fill up my car tonight (plus some for my mower fuel). I would not pay another 5c/L to pay someone to come out and pump my fuel. It is such an easy task that it would be demeaning to have someone else do it for me. Take your 20 items to the self-checkouts and do your own scanning. The designated checkout operators are too busy trying to help old people too technophobic from learning new things.

I swear that there are too many people in this country that think paying more to have people scan and bag, or wash the windscreens, check your oil, and pump your fuel. Perhaps we need to bring back people that go around knocking on your bedroom windows to wake you up and replace that darn alarm clock. Or maybe a water carrier to replace those pesky pipes leading from the town's water reserves.

Wake up and smell the coffee -- before you start accusing that product of stealing income from tea or milo brands. Being a luddite in the 21st century will soon leave Australia having to fall behind places like Indonesia in technology. Ironically, their catch up will have us competing better with them.


Just ignore Bwian aka Gwoggy aka Laugh Til We Laugh At Him aka Jim Slackey aka Moosetupha Can't Troll hard enough...

He's absolutely off his face and talking utter invented BS again.

And he posted 2 comments yesterday which I copied and took a screenshot of before he could edit or delete them. Why? Both comments clearly indicate how unhinged his full time multi troll mindset is these days. Do not believe his comment above. It is a filthy and unhinged lie by an unwell man who has not worked for at least 15 years (that I know of).

What I do is this : I follow the principles my migrant parents taught me :

• Always do the right thing wrt money matters. Don't waste it. Invest it in your health and welfare and future. And your children's future. And always remember the vulnerable poor around you.

This is why today .... I'm in a very financially secure position with my husband. I've stuck to mum n dad's philosophy.

I STILL remember being around 4 and sitting on a normal chair at the kitchen table and watching my parents talk about money. It was never about MAKING money. It was about SAVING money. They kept repeating the word : economia <--- it means to economise ie save.

And that's all I knew growing up. My life was about growing organic fruit n veg ( Mum n Dad had a mini farm happening ffs with chooks etc ).

And that's why 2 teenage migrants with no education and no English language skills and no money and no support who came to Sydney with nothing but dreams and hope in 1965.....had FOUR houses by the time I was born!

Both worked 2 to 3 jobs each all the time and saved.

My uncles and aunts by marriage did even better! They owned factories as well as homes. But that's because my uncles had trades skills/qualifications.

Mum n Dad taught us to remember those around us who couldn't cope financially. If your standard of living increases so should your standard of giving. And through that we were taught the important principle of BEING GRATEFUL and the principle of SHARING.

And as a little kid I watched what this did. It kickstarted a synergistic chain reaction involving community network development driven by positive energy and happiness. Yes HAPPINESS. Being HAPPY! That's what life is supposed to be about!

The only complaint I have about my European childhood is that we never had a pet dog or pet bird or pet kitten like the kids at school. Ours was always a pet lamb. My cousins had pet goats. We seemed to have a lot of fresh meat back then too. 🥺

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Reply #71 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:47am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:40am:
Belgarion wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 10:36am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 9:01am:
Loathe them - every time I get going in earnest, that snide female voice comes in to tell me I'm doing it wrong - I can get that anywhere, so I don't need it from a machine... they need a strong male visionary voice to ordnung people how to do things right.....

I PUT the bag there!


https://i.gifer.com/origin/68/68c21842f4c24e6223dc046d322549c6_w200.gif


Yep. I hate the bloody things. Once I asked the woman overseeing these things if I got a staff discount. She gave an embarrassed laugh and moved away. 


Have you noticed that many also have a checkout person in the self checkout area to assist people who get stuck?

If that checkout person opened up another register instead...customers would probably be out the door faster anyway.

Keep meaning to ask ....has anyone ever seen an Aldi self checkout?

I've never seen one.





I've commented on that in-store as well.... waste of time those things.... people were lined up about 25 deep one day - I just went to the short queue and was out in 2 minutes.  'Tfino why people choose to use those things......................
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Reply #72 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 12:08pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:47am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 11:40am:
Belgarion wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 10:36am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 9:01am:
Loathe them - every time I get going in earnest, that snide female voice comes in to tell me I'm doing it wrong - I can get that anywhere, so I don't need it from a machine... they need a strong male visionary voice to ordnung people how to do things right.....

I PUT the bag there!


https://i.gifer.com/origin/68/68c21842f4c24e6223dc046d322549c6_w200.gif


Yep. I hate the bloody things. Once I asked the woman overseeing these things if I got a staff discount. She gave an embarrassed laugh and moved away. 


Have you noticed that many also have a checkout person in the self checkout area to assist people who get stuck?

If that checkout person opened up another register instead...customers would probably be out the door faster anyway.

Keep meaning to ask ....has anyone ever seen an Aldi self checkout?

I've never seen one.





I've commented on that in-store as well.... waste of time those things.... people were lined up about 25 deep one day - I just went to the short queue and was out in 2 minutes.  'Tfino why people choose to use those things......................


I remember once hubby and I were at Big W. He wanted to use the self checkout whereas I simply refused. Anyway .... we split the shopping in half and he went to the self checkout which was available whereas I waited to be served by the checkout girl.

Long story short I was waiting for him outside the store. Why? Those checkout girls are so fast and they know how to pack the bags very carefully and efficiently too.

As I'm a dutiful wife ....I told him off all the way home because the girls or guys at the checkout are more often than not students trying to survive whilst studying or mums trying to keep up with the cost of living by working shifts around their husband's work times.

These people are also our front line workers.

Damn it they deserve to know how much we appreciate them. And I always thank them for being so friendly and efficient and careful with how they pack my things.

Little comments like : "Well well well whoever trained you trained you very well indeed. Your customer service skills are excellent. "

Immediately the smile would come up on our faces and with a quick wink I'd head off to pack everything inside the car.

Once inside the car ... it takes less than 60 seconds to shoot through a quick email to Head Office using the relevant details on my receipt and just like that ... the cashier no and name along with the store no and name and the positive feedback are in the RIGHT hands.

Note : I can be a tad cheeky sometimes with these feedback reports by inserting a negative comment about the self checkouts and how problematic they are. 😂🤣😆i



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Reply #73 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 5:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 5:04am:
No, not bullshit.

I have no problem paying more for goods and services, if it creates more jobs.


And in your economic hypothetical model, please explain to people how paying, say, 10% more for your groceries would have someone more sit on the registers waiting for you to load up your groceries. What is it now? $16/hr for an under 18-year-old to work on registers?
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Reply #74 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 5:10pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 5:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 5:04am:
No, not bullshit.

I have no problem paying more for goods and services, if it creates more jobs.


And in your economic hypothetical model, please explain to people how paying, say, 10% more for your groceries would have someone more sit on the registers waiting for you to load up your groceries. What is it now? $16/hr for an under 18-year-old to work on registers?


If a supermarket employs more people - to operate the checkouts - they'll probably need to increase their prices to cover the cost of the labour.

You can't seriously tell me you don't understand this basic principle?

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