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Reply #30 - Mar 17th, 2022 at 3:13pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 8:02am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 6:45am:
Ten years in prison and 100 lashes for suggesting debate. Cultural relativism anyone? They all have the same value, right?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60714086

If you imagine Islam has an exclusive licence for this form of cruelty may I suggest you undertake a course in Comparative Religious Studies.?



A very stupid, Bbwianesquely stupid, mindlessly hastie reflex response, to draw a supposed equivalence between today and 500 years ago. Very stupid, very usual.



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Reply #31 - Mar 18th, 2022 at 4:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 17th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

If you imagine Islam has an exclusive licence for this form of cruelty may I suggest you undertake a course in Comparative Religious Studies.?


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A very stupid, Bbwianesquely stupid, mindlessly hastie reflex response, to draw a supposed equivalence between today and 500 years ago. Very stupid, very usual.
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Where did you get ‘500 years’ from?
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Reply #32 - Mar 18th, 2022 at 9:31pm
 
"Objectivity is a hypocrisy . . .which is sustained by the lie that truth stays in the middle. Sometimes truth stays on one side only."  Oriana Fallaci, 2003.
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Reply #33 - Mar 24th, 2022 at 8:01am
 
The Muslims refuse our culture and try to impose their culture on us. I reject them, and this is not only my duty toward my culture-it is toward my values, my principles, my civilization.

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Reply #34 - Mar 27th, 2022 at 1:29pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 4:48pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 12:46pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 8:02am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 6:45am:
Ten years in prison and 100 lashes for suggesting debate. Cultural relativism anyone? They all have the same value, right?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60714086

If you imagine Islam has an exclusive licence for this form of cruelty may I suggest you undertake a course in Comparative Religious Studies.?




Well, this Islam thing is a modern day version of the Spanish inquisition, isn't it?


That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.


The term Catholic Country hasn’t the same meaning it often did. Instance, many nations with a majority Catholic population run secular governments. Allow the church to again be govern and the fires would be lit again. The Church of Rome is already enforcing it’s stance on abbortion in nations where is has sufficient power . Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile


"Christian Country" has no meaning from a religious perspective. In Islam, religion and state are inseparable.
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Reply #35 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 6:52am
 
Well - some ideas and ideologies are made to be insulted.... does 'em good to have to consider the validity of the tenets of their belief system.

Look at what we do to the Loonie Left and the Radical Right here... take the piss out of them until they blow steam from their ears and then give them the coup de grace.

"Grace!  You're on......"


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"THIS Grace...  you're next...


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Reply #36 - Apr 22nd, 2022 at 8:15am
 
Paludan and his weird minions must have the right to express their opinion that Islam is evil and those who feel offended must have the right to protest against them. And yes, burning objects counts as an expression of opinion. For decades, American warriors for freedom of speech have insisted on the right of people to burn the Stars and Stripes because, in the words of US civil libertarian Nadine Strossen, even “deeply unpopular (and) offensive” speech should be free speech. So Paludan should have the right to burn the Koran and others should have the right to say: “Don’t do this, please.”

But rioting? That’s something else entirely. This is violence deployed to the end of shushing blasphemous commentary. This is an unstable, incoherent species of Inquisition, in which a menacing message is being sent: offend my religious sensibilities, offend me, and we will visit destruction upon you. No nation that believes in liberty should cave in to such threats.

The true problem here is an unwillingness among the European intelligentsia and political class to stand up for freedom and to make it clear to all social groups that their feelings carry less moral weight than the principles of freedom. In fact, too often the elites do the opposite – they send the message that some forms of speech are so hurtful, so “erasing”, that they may be legitimately sidelined or squashed, whether it’s “transphobic” feminism, un-PC humour or mockery of Mohammed. This gives a green light to violent fury against allegedly “violent” speech.

Those riots in Sweden can be seen as a physical manifestation of woke sensibilities, of the regressive belief that certain people’s self-esteem should trump other people’s liberty to utter their ideas – a belief held as firmly by the cultural elites as by regressive religionists.

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Reply #37 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:42am
 
Telling the truth about Mohammed and Ismam is an insult of Mohammed and Islam


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Reply #38 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:56am
 
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.



Now .. but ask that question only a few hundred years ago and you would have been burned at the stake. Islam is still  playing  catchup
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Reply #39 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:05am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:56am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.



Now .. but ask that question only a few hundred years ago and you would have been burned at the stake. Islam is still  playing  catchup



How long will it take for the unalterable, eternal, FINAL word of Allah to catch up with Christianity,  an essentially interpretive, dialogical, UNFOLDING religion?

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Reply #40 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:07am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:56am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.



Now .. but ask that question only a few hundred years ago and you would have been burned at the stake. Islam is still  playing  catchup



How long will it take for the unalterable, eternal, FINAL word of Allah to catch up with Christianity,  an essentially interpretive, dialogical, UNFOLDING religion?



I don't know . It took Christianity 4000 years to get to this stage. I'd say Islam has a little while to go yet.
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Reply #41 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:56am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.



Now .. but ask that question only a few hundred years ago and you would have been burned at the stake. Islam is still  playing  catchup


Society improved under Christianity pretty much from the beginning. 1400 years is a long time to be catching up, especially seeing as Muhammad was in a position to make the same improvements already achieved in Christian societies while he was still alive. Instead, he chose to make it worse. 1400 years later and they would still rather slaughter fellow Muslims than live under democracy.
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Reply #42 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:13am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:10am:
Society improved under Christianity pretty much from the beginning.



tell that to all the people that were killed in it's name.
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Reply #43 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:31am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:07am:
Frank wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 11:05am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 9th, 2022 at 10:56am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 12th, 2022 at 3:50pm:
That's the point, but your question will get you into serious trouble in Islam. Such a question in a Catholic country will not. Some cultures are just better than others.



Now .. but ask that question only a few hundred years ago and you would have been burned at the stake. Islam is still  playing  catchup



How long will it take for the unalterable, eternal, FINAL word of Allah to catch up with Christianity,  an essentially interpretive, dialogical, UNFOLDING religion?



I don't know . It took Christianity 4000 years to get to this stage. I'd say Islam has a little while to go yet.

Huh?

Even if Christianity is Platonism for the masses, that's 1500 years out.


The point is that Islam and Christianity are essentially different, most importantly in the way they react to and interact with the secular word.  Islam is the unalterable, eternal, FINAL word of Allah while Christianity is interpretive, dialogical, UNFOLDING religion.

Christianity changes with the times, because it is principally about the living.  Islam always wants the times to conform to its unalterable 1400 year old dogmas because its sole concern is submission to those dogmas unquestioningly, always and everywhere.




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Reply #44 - Jun 9th, 2022 at 9:44pm
 
The constitutions of seven American states ban atheists from holding public office.

A couple of them typify this:

North Carolina:  "The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First,
any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."

Arkansas: "No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in
the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness
in any Court."

There are currently 16 states that have banned the burqa, including Tunisia, Austria, Denmark, France, Belgium, Tajikistan, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Chad, the Republic of the Congo, Gabon, the Netherlands, China, Morocco, Sri Lanka and Switzerland.  

When is Australia going to follow suit?  Or are we too politically correct, and/or
driven by the SJWs?
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