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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #30 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 5:53pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 10:16pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:28am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2022 at 11:58am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2022 at 11:42am:

Check tomorrow, lots of false +s happen.

Yep that's probably it. Hubby has a false positive.
Just took the shot now.

Hubby is triple vaxxed and symptomless.

I'm totally unvaccinated and symptomless.

He's (confirmed) positive.

I'm negative. Is it possible that I've got a false negative result?

No. Just took another in home test. I'm still negative.

You gotta wonder about this virus and about the jabs people have been forced to take to keep their jobs.

Perhaps his triple vaccination has meant he's less contagious doing exactly what it should, protecting you who isn't vaccinated?

Being vaccinated doesn't make her husband less contagious it's a myth being vaccinated protects others sad skip is spreading more lies and misinformation. Sad Skip ignores the science on this because he is an idiot.

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Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals

Published:January, 2022

Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 needs to be elucidated. A prospective cohort study in the UK by Anika Singanayagam and colleagues2 regarding community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 among unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals provides important information that needs to be considered in reassessing vaccination policies.This study showed that the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people.2, 3 The scientific rationale for mandatory vaccination in the USA relies on the premise that vaccination prevents transmission to others, resulting in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”.4 Yet, the demonstration of COVID-19 breakthrough infections among fully vaccinated health-care workers (HCW) in Israel, who in turn may transmit this infection to their patients,5 requires a reassessment of compulsory vaccination policies leading to the job dismissal of unvaccinated HCW in the USA. Indeed, there is growing evidence that peak viral titres in the upper airways of the lungs and culturable virus are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.2,3,5–7 A recent investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of an outbreak of COVID-19 in a prison in Texas showed the equal presence of infectious virus in the nasopharynx of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.6 Similarly, researchers in California observed no major differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in terms of SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in the nasopharynx, even in those with proven asymptomatic infection.7 Thus, the current evidence suggests that current mandatory vaccination policies might need to be reconsidered, and that vaccination status should not replace mitigation practices such as mask wearing, physical distancing, and contact-tracing investigations, even within highly vaccinated populations.
I declare no competing interests.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00768-4/fullt...

The CDC said last July vaccines cannot prevent transmission the idiots are slow to accept this reality they continue to post bullshit claiming the vaccine does things science has shown they don't do.

Interesting article
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HEALTH AND SCIENCE
Why do some people get Covid when others don’t? Here’s what we know so far

An increasing amount of research is being devoted to the reasons why some people never seem to get Covid — a so-called never Covid cohort.

There are multiple anecdotes of Covid cases being discovered among couples, families or groups of colleagues who have mixed closely, but where not everyone has become infected.

This could be due to a variety of factors, ranging from prior infection with a similar virus to genetics.

More here i doubt idiots like sad skip will research anything on this- https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/03/why-do-some-people-get-covid-while-others-dont.h...

So you'll just ignore all the other research that says the exact opposite?

You have this bad habit of picking and choosing what is relevant based on what you believe rather than what is true.

Sad Skip showing he doesn't understand the basic fundamentals of science.

With science when a theory is proved to be wrong it's thrown in the garbage and the truth is embraced.

All recent studies show the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission the CDC admitted this last July

There were idiots who assumed vaccine would prevent transmission yet all the experts said this cannot happen with non sterilising vaccines. History shows the experts who were ignored were 100% correct when they said these non sterilising vaccines cannot prevent transmission.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #31 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #32 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:37pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

More bullshit from you and you move the goal posts again.

Many idiots claim vaccine prevents transmission that's why we had vaccine mandates.

Teachers, nurses and police have been fired for not taking the vaccine because of a myth vaccine prevents transmission

The studies show no difference with viral load in nose between vaxxed and unvaxxed symptomatic or asymptomatic.A vaxxed person who is asymptomatic will be spreading this virus without even realising it.

When the vaccines were released many idiots claimed they would prevent transmission when all the experts said this cannot happen with non sterlising vaccine. The experts who were ignored were 100% correct.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #33 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:42pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:37pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

More bullshit from you and you move the goal posts again.

Many idiots claim vaccine prevents transmission that's why we had vaccine mandates.

Teachers, nurses and police have been fired for not taking the vaccine because of a myth vaccine prevents transmission

The studies show no difference with viral load in nose between vaxxed and unvaxxed symptomatic or asymptomatic.A vaxxed person who is asymptomatic will be spreading this virus without even realising it.

When the vaccines were released many idiots claimed they would prevent transmission when all the experts said this cannot happen with non sterlising vaccine. The experts who were ignored were 100% correct.

But "hubby" isn't unknowing spreading the virus, he knows his positive status and if you don't ignore the research that doesn't support your dogmatic beliefs, one possible explanation as to why Lisa has yet to test positive could be "hubby's" vaccinated and boosted status that is contributing to him being less contagious than if he were unvaccinated.

That was all I said before you had your meltdown.

You can try to twist it into something else all you like, but as usual you're only making yourself look like a colossal tit.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #34 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 8:42pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:37pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

More bullshit from you and you move the goal posts again.

Many idiots claim vaccine prevents transmission that's why we had vaccine mandates.

Teachers, nurses and police have been fired for not taking the vaccine because of a myth vaccine prevents transmission

The studies show no difference with viral load in nose between vaxxed and unvaxxed symptomatic or asymptomatic.A vaxxed person who is asymptomatic will be spreading this virus without even realising it.

When the vaccines were released many idiots claimed they would prevent transmission when all the experts said this cannot happen with non sterlising vaccine. The experts who were ignored were 100% correct.

But "hubby" isn't unknowing spreading the virus, he knows his positive status and if you don't ignore the research that doesn't support your dogmatic beliefs, one possible explanation as to why Lisa has yet to test positive could be "hubby's" vaccinated and boosted status that is contributing to him being less contagious than if he were unvaccinated.

That was all I said before you had your meltdown.

You can try to twist it into something else all you like, but as usual you're only making yourself look like a colossal tit.

Hey multi troll .. why are you using "hubby" instead of hubby? Explain that then bugger off out of my topic.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #36 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

Well Sad Monk

Here's some more lived experience which is evidence : Hubby is showing more symptoms today (more than yesterday even). He's got what looks like a serious man flu now. Have I been busy taking care of him? Hell yeah! I'm absolutely over it. He's no longer using his face mask at all as he's finally worked out he needs to breathe oxygen as much as the next person.

To be brutally honest I have now reached the stage where I don't care if I catch Covid19. In fact I just want it over with. I get I'm totally unvaccinated but I think the strains out there are not as dangerous these days.

Yet this afternoon after my Woolworths shopping was delivered I packed everything away and got to the Covid19 home tests.

So I sat hubby down and sat myself down and we both took the test (it's the spit test not the nasal one).

Results?

He's tested positive to Covid19 again (and now he looks bloody sick so the reading fits the situation).

I bloody tested negative! And I'm supposed to be totally unvaccinated too! My neighbours all know now. They know his car's in the driveway so they have been asking about why he's home. Well they know I'm caring for him, changing all his sheets pillows towels and making him cups of tea and prepping his 3 meals a day and checking his temperature and making sure he's hydrated with water and lemonade.

And today the kids and I did all the lawnmowing and gardening (in time for this week's council collection) and there he was peering through the window very upset that he wasn't outside with us.

I don't get why the only person in the family who is triple jabbed (hubby had to for work purposes) is the only person who's consistently testing +'ve for Covid19 whereas the rest of us are fine. We look fine we are fine and we don't have Covid19.

Perhaps we'll finally contract this very contagious virus tomorrow ?

I had better order more Covid19 tests I suppose. Test the whole family once more.

Edit : I just saw on the news that a little boy from
Sydney died of Covid19 today. I think this virus IS hit and miss. Irrespective of who's vaccinated.

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Reply #38 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:10pm

I do not have a sock here. Ask FD or Vic to confirm.

I do not share others’ accounts—that would get me banned. Am I banned right now Larry? No I am not.

I have been logged on all day tho not always here. Look in Critters and Gardens for conformation of that.

And anyone can post in a thread on a public board.

You owe Sad Kangaroo an apology.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #41 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:19pm

Ok getting back to my topic.....

Any more off topic abuse by Drunk will be directly reported to Freediver as those off topic posts appear.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

Well Sad Monk

Here's some more lived experience which is evidence : Hubby is showing more symptoms today (more than yesterday even). He's got what looks like a serious man flu now. Have I been busy taking care of him? Hell yeah! I'm absolutely over it. He's no longer using his face mask at all as he's finally worked out he needs to breathe oxygen as much as the next person.

To be brutally honest I have now reached the stage where I don't care if I catch Covid19. In fact I just want it over with. I get I'm totally unvaccinated but I think the strains out there are not as dangerous these days.

Yet this afternoon after my Woolworths shopping was delivered I packed everything away and got to the Covid19 home tests.

So I sat hubby down and sat myself down and we both took the test (it's the spit test not the nasal one).

Results?

He's tested positive to Covid19 again (and now he looks bloody sick so the reading fits the situation).

I bloody tested negative! And I'm supposed to be totally unvaccinated too! My neighbours all know now. They know his car's in the driveway so they have been asking about why he's home. Well they know I'm caring for him, changing all his sheets pillows towels and making him cups of tea and prepping his 3 meals a day and checking his temperature and making sure he's hydrated with water and lemonade.

And today the kids and I did all the lawnmowing and gardening (in time for this week's council collection) and there he was peering through the window very upset that he wasn't outside with us.

I don't get why the only person in the family who is triple jabbed (hubby had to for work purposes) is the only person who's consistently testing +'ve for Covid19 whereas the rest of us are fine. We look fine we are fine and we don't have Covid19.

Perhaps we'll finally contract this very contagious virus tomorrow ?

I had better order more Covid19 tests I suppose. Test the whole family once more.

Edit : I just saw on the news that a little boy from
Sydney died of Covid19 today. I think this virus IS hit and miss. Irrespective of who's vaccinated.

WTF??

A 2 yr old perfectly healthy kid (with no underlying health issues) from one of the safest age cohorts suddenly tests positive for Covid19 (that in itself is unusual for that age range) and dies the next day.

Like I keep saying .. it's hit and miss.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-covid-19-update-14970-new-cases-four-more-...

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Reply #42 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:27pm

From the above link (apologies it didn't happen today but a few days ago):

A two-year-old Sydney child is among the four people who died after testing positive to COVID-19 in New South Wales overnight.

NSW Health said the "previously well" child died at the The Children's Hospital at Westmead due to a COVID-19 infection.

The little boy became seriously ill on Wednesday night and was taken to hospital in the early hours of Thursday. The toddler died on Friday evening. He had no underlying health conditions and his cause of death has been determined to be COVID-19.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #43 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 10:41pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 8:42pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:37pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

More bullshit from you and you move the goal posts again.

Many idiots claim vaccine prevents transmission that's why we had vaccine mandates.

Teachers, nurses and police have been fired for not taking the vaccine because of a myth vaccine prevents transmission

The studies show no difference with viral load in nose between vaxxed and unvaxxed symptomatic or asymptomatic.A vaxxed person who is asymptomatic will be spreading this virus without even realising it.

When the vaccines were released many idiots claimed they would prevent transmission when all the experts said this cannot happen with non sterlising vaccine. The experts who were ignored were 100% correct.

But "hubby" isn't unknowing spreading the virus, he knows his positive status and if you don't ignore the research that doesn't support your dogmatic beliefs, one possible explanation as to why Lisa has yet to test positive could be "hubby's" vaccinated and boosted status that is contributing to him being less contagious than if he were unvaccinated.

That was all I said before you had your meltdown.

You can try to twist it into something else all you like, but as usual you're only making yourself look like a colossal tit.

Hey multi troll .. why are you using "hubby" instead of hubby? Explain that then bugger off out of my topic.

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that at all, but I see why you'd think so.

I was using "hubby" because I don't know his name and he's not my husband.

If my intention to point out he's your husband has been drowned out by my poor choice of grammar that's on me.

I'll take the troll accusations on the chin since I understand your point of view here, but it wasn't my intention.

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #44 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 10:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

Well Sad Monk

Here's some more lived experience which is evidence : Hubby is showing more symptoms today (more than yesterday even). He's got what looks like a serious man flu now. Have I been busy taking care of him? Hell yeah! I'm absolutely over it. He's no longer using his face mask at all as he's finally worked out he needs to breathe oxygen as much as the next person.

To be brutally honest I have now reached the stage where I don't care if I catch Covid19. In fact I just want it over with. I get I'm totally unvaccinated but I think the strains out there are not as dangerous these days.

Yet this afternoon after my Woolworths shopping was delivered I packed everything away and got to the Covid19 home tests.

So I sat hubby down and sat myself down and we both took the test (it's the spit test not the nasal one).

Results?

He's tested positive to Covid19 again (and now he looks bloody sick so the reading fits the situation).

I bloody tested negative! And I'm supposed to be totally unvaccinated too! My neighbours all know now. They know his car's in the driveway so they have been asking about why he's home. Well they know I'm caring for him, changing all his sheets pillows towels and making him cups of tea and prepping his 3 meals a day and checking his temperature and making sure he's hydrated with water and lemonade.

And today the kids and I did all the lawnmowing and gardening (in time for this week's council collection) and there he was peering through the window very upset that he wasn't outside with us.

I don't get why the only person in the family who is triple jabbed (hubby had to for work purposes) is the only person who's consistently testing +'ve for Covid19 whereas the rest of us are fine. We look fine we are fine and we don't have Covid19.

Perhaps we'll finally contract this very contagious virus tomorrow ?

I had better order more Covid19 tests I suppose. Test the whole family once more.

I don't know why you've not tested positive, especially if you're that active in his care at the moment and he's progressed to manflu levels of symptoms.

It was just a suggestion that he may be less contagious due to his vaccination status, but that's unlikely if that's his condition now, but I'm not an expert and even if I was, I've not examined him etc so I couldn't tell anyway.

Unlike some "Dr Google only the answers I want" types who were so triggered by my comments earlier, it's ok not to know rather than pretend to.

And as for Monk, I'm unwilling to share the sort of personal information needed to prove we are not one in the same, you'll just have to believe me that we aren't, or not, it really doesn't matter.

I still stand by my wishes for your husband to make a quick recovery and you to avoid an infection yourself, especially since the reasons you've given us in the past for you not getting the vaccine puts you at a greater risk of poorer outcomes.

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Edit : I just saw on the news that a little boy from
Sydney died of Covid19 today. I think this virus IS hit and miss. Irrespective of who's vaccinated.

You'll have to forgive me for not looking that up, I really don't want to know more about something so tragic, especially right before calling it a night.

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