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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #45 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 4:30pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

Well Sad Monk

Here's some more lived experience which is evidence : Hubby is showing more symptoms today (more than yesterday even). He's got what looks like a serious man flu now. Have I been busy taking care of him? Hell yeah! I'm absolutely over it. He's no longer using his face mask at all as he's finally worked out he needs to breathe oxygen as much as the next person.

To be brutally honest I have now reached the stage where I don't care if I catch Covid19. In fact I just want it over with. I get I'm totally unvaccinated but I think the strains out there are not as dangerous these days.

Yet this afternoon after my Woolworths shopping was delivered I packed everything away and got to the Covid19 home tests.

So I sat hubby down and sat myself down and we both took the test (it's the spit test not the nasal one).

Results?

He's tested positive to Covid19 again (and now he looks bloody sick so the reading fits the situation).

I bloody tested negative! And I'm supposed to be totally unvaccinated too! My neighbours all know now. They know his car's in the driveway so they have been asking about why he's home. Well they know I'm caring for him, changing all his sheets pillows towels and making him cups of tea and prepping his 3 meals a day and checking his temperature and making sure he's hydrated with water and lemonade.

And today the kids and I did all the lawnmowing and gardening (in time for this week's council collection) and there he was peering through the window very upset that he wasn't outside with us.

I don't get why the only person in the family who is triple jabbed (hubby had to for work purposes) is the only person who's consistently testing +'ve for Covid19 whereas the rest of us are fine. We look fine we are fine and we don't have Covid19.

Perhaps we'll finally contract this very contagious virus tomorrow ?

I had better order more Covid19 tests I suppose. Test the whole family once more.

I don't know why you've not tested positive, especially if you're that active in his care at the moment and he's progressed to manflu levels of symptoms.

It was just a suggestion that he may be less contagious due to his vaccination status, but that's unlikely if that's his condition now, but I'm not an expert and even if I was, I've not examined him etc so I couldn't tell anyway.

Unlike some "Dr Google only the answers I want" types who were so triggered by my comments earlier, it's ok not to know rather than pretend to.

And as for Monk, I'm unwilling to share the sort of personal information needed to prove we are not one in the same, you'll just have to believe me that we aren't, or not, it really doesn't matter.

I still stand by my wishes for your husband to make a quick recovery and you to avoid an infection yourself, especially since the reasons you've given us in the past for you not getting the vaccine puts you at a greater risk of poorer outcomes.

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Edit : I just saw on the news that a little boy from
Sydney died of Covid19 today. I think this virus IS hit and miss. Irrespective of who's vaccinated.

You'll have to forgive me for not looking that up, I really don't want to know more about something so tragic, especially right before calling it a night.

thank god its so much milder then influenza (which nobody bothered reporting about )

Influenza killed a record number of children this past season, the CDC says. It reports 172 pediatric flu deaths for the 2017-2018 flu

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #46 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 5:42pm

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 12:06pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 11:32pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

So you'll just ignore all the other research that says the exact opposite?

And who funded that 'research'?

Ask youself why do you have to resort to conspiracy theories to protect your opinions?

Explain how this is a conspiracy theory:

“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.”

Arnold S. Relman, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma...

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #47 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 7:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 6:00pm:

Waffle as usual with the obligatory goal post change.

Nobody is saying that the vaccine prevents transmission.

The claim was, and is supported by much research, those who are vaccinated and suffering from very few synptoms are less contagious than those who are unvaccinated and suffering from a severe infection.

And you're rewriting that to mean "vaccinations prevent transmission" which is an entirely different claim and not one that I made.

Then on top of the goal post change, when you ignore the results of studies that don't suit your narrative then make general statements of "fact" based on only what finding you like, you don't get to be judgy about others and their understanding of science...

As usual you're running with opinion based evidence rather than evidence based opinion.

Well Sad Monk

Here's some more lived experience which is evidence : Hubby is showing more symptoms today (more than yesterday even). He's got what looks like a serious man flu now. Have I been busy taking care of him? Hell yeah! I'm absolutely over it. He's no longer using his face mask at all as he's finally worked out he needs to breathe oxygen as much as the next person.

To be brutally honest I have now reached the stage where I don't care if I catch Covid19. In fact I just want it over with. I get I'm totally unvaccinated but I think the strains out there are not as dangerous these days.

Yet this afternoon after my Woolworths shopping was delivered I packed everything away and got to the Covid19 home tests.

So I sat hubby down and sat myself down and we both took the test (it's the spit test not the nasal one).

Results?

He's tested positive to Covid19 again (and now he looks bloody sick so the reading fits the situation).

I bloody tested negative! And I'm supposed to be totally unvaccinated too! My neighbours all know now. They know his car's in the driveway so they have been asking about why he's home. Well they know I'm caring for him, changing all his sheets pillows towels and making him cups of tea and prepping his 3 meals a day and checking his temperature and making sure he's hydrated with water and lemonade.

And today the kids and I did all the lawnmowing and gardening (in time for this week's council collection) and there he was peering through the window very upset that he wasn't outside with us.

I don't get why the only person in the family who is triple jabbed (hubby had to for work purposes) is the only person who's consistently testing +'ve for Covid19 whereas the rest of us are fine. We look fine we are fine and we don't have Covid19.

Perhaps we'll finally contract this very contagious virus tomorrow ?

I had better order more Covid19 tests I suppose. Test the whole family once more.

Edit : I just saw on the news that a little boy from
Sydney died of Covid19 today. I think this virus IS hit and miss. Irrespective of who's vaccinated.

I am not Sad I am Jovial. Are you so drug fukked right now you mix that up in the remains of your addled brain?

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Get the vaxx! 💉💉

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #48 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 7:32pm I see Larry has no trouble posting photos when he wants to
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #49 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 7:55pm And those photos were OH SO CONVINCING! Not.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #50 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:07pm F@rk off Cyber Junkie Drunk! Go sh1.t in your own boring sub forum and/or monotonous monologue. Either way I don't like a 75 yr old ugly incel virgin like you licking my arse.
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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #51 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:11pm

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 5:42pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 12:06pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 11:32pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

So you'll just ignore all the other research that says the exact opposite?

And who funded that 'research'?

Ask youself why do you have to resort to conspiracy theories to protect your opinions?

Explain how this is a conspiracy theory:

“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.”

Arnold S. Relman, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.sciencealert.com/how-much-top-journal-editors-get-paid-by-big-pharma...

Wombat ... Sad Kangaroo is just another shared fake id which 75 yr old Drunk Incel Monk lives in.

He has HEAPS of ids in cyberspace despite his ridiculous claims that he only has 1 id. <-- 😂🤣😆

Oh and all his accounts have passwords protected by his alcohol driven dementia. 😂🤣😆

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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #52 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:17pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 21^st, 2022 at 5:53pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2022 at 10:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 10:16pm:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 19^th, 2022 at 8:28am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 18^th, 2022 at 11:58am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 18^th, 2022 at 11:42am:

Check tomorrow, lots of false +s happen.

Yep that's probably it. Hubby has a false positive.
Just took the shot now.

Hubby is triple vaxxed and symptomless.

I'm totally unvaccinated and symptomless.

He's (confirmed) positive.

I'm negative. Is it possible that I've got a false negative result?

No. Just took another in home test. I'm still negative.

You gotta wonder about this virus and about the jabs people have been forced to take to keep their jobs.

Perhaps his triple vaccination has meant he's less contagious doing exactly what it should, protecting you who isn't vaccinated?

Being vaccinated doesn't make her husband less contagious it's a myth being vaccinated protects others sad skip is spreading more lies and misinformation. Sad Skip ignores the science on this because he is an idiot.

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Transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 among fully vaccinated individuals

Published:January, 2022

Vaccine effectiveness studies have conclusively demonstrated the benefit of COVID-19 vaccines in reducing individual symptomatic and severe disease, resulting in reduced hospitalisations and intensive care unit admissions.1 However, the impact of vaccination on transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 needs to be elucidated. A prospective cohort study in the UK by Anika Singanayagam and colleagues2 regarding community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 among unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals provides important information that needs to be considered in reassessing vaccination policies.This study showed that the impact of vaccination on community transmission of circulating variants of SARS-CoV-2 appeared to be not significantly different from the impact among unvaccinated people.2, 3 The scientific rationale for mandatory vaccination in the USA relies on the premise that vaccination prevents transmission to others, resulting in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”.4 Yet, the demonstration of COVID-19 breakthrough infections among fully vaccinated health-care workers (HCW) in Israel, who in turn may transmit this infection to their patients,5 requires a reassessment of compulsory vaccination policies leading to the job dismissal of unvaccinated HCW in the USA. Indeed, there is growing evidence that peak viral titres in the upper airways of the lungs and culturable virus are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.2,3,5–7 A recent investigation by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of an outbreak of COVID-19 in a prison in Texas showed the equal presence of infectious virus in the nasopharynx of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.6 Similarly, researchers in California observed no major differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in terms of SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in the nasopharynx, even in those with proven asymptomatic infection.7 Thus, the current evidence suggests that current mandatory vaccination policies might need to be reconsidered, and that vaccination status should not replace mitigation practices such as mask wearing, physical distancing, and contact-tracing investigations, even within highly vaccinated populations.
I declare no competing interests.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00768-4/fullt...

The CDC said last July vaccines cannot prevent transmission the idiots are slow to accept this reality they continue to post bullshit claiming the vaccine does things science has shown they don't do.

Interesting article
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HEALTH AND SCIENCE
Why do some people get Covid when others don’t? Here’s what we know so far

An increasing amount of research is being devoted to the reasons why some people never seem to get Covid — a so-called never Covid cohort.

There are multiple anecdotes of Covid cases being discovered among couples, families or groups of colleagues who have mixed closely, but where not everyone has become infected.

This could be due to a variety of factors, ranging from prior infection with a similar virus to genetics.

More here i doubt idiots like sad skip will research anything on this- https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/03/why-do-some-people-get-covid-while-others-dont.h...

So you'll just ignore all the other research that says the exact opposite?

You have this bad habit of picking and choosing what is relevant based on what you believe rather than what is true.

Sad Skip showing he doesn't understand the basic fundamentals of science.

With science when a theory is proved to be wrong it's thrown in the garbage and the truth is embraced.

All recent studies show the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission the CDC admitted this last July

Today's update : Hubby has had 3 jabs and he tested positive for Covid19 yet again.

The rest of us are totally unjabbed. And have tested negative today. Yet again.

I'm over this nonsense!

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139350 Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #53 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:17pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:07pm: F@rk off Cyber Junkie Drunk! Go sh1.t in your own boring sub forum and/or monotonous monologue. Either way I don't like a 75 yr old ugly incel virgin like you licking my arse. What would you prefer him to lick?
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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #54 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:17pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:07pm:

F@rk off Cyber Junkie Drunk! Go sh1.t in your own boring sub forum and/or monotonous monologue. Either way I don't like a 75 yr old ugly incel virgin like you licking my arse.

What do you prefer he lick?

Trust you of all trolls to turn up behind my @rse within seconds of you seeing such a well known European phrase!

Seriously Greg Na Pas sto thialo!

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Reply #55 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:37pm

As of this afternoon I've put a stop to being masked and everyone being separated from each other.

It's caused a lot of stress and so much work for me that I'm beyond exhausted. We're eating together ( I've got the hubby eating at the head of the sun room table and we're on the other end of it but at least we're eating at the same time on the same table. I'm boiling jugs of water and sterilising everything I can that we use to eat ie cutlery and crockery etc. I'm bleaching everything possible in the bathrooms and kitchen and laundry. Hand sanitizer stations are in every room. All towels and tea towels are used once and once only. Bed linen is being washed/changed every 2 days. No items of clothing are worn more than once.

My 10 kilo front loader does not stop.

Oh and our Sydney Water bill is due soon. I'm hoping it won't be over $1000. 🥺

Anyway we've stopped masking. We need to breathe oxygen thanks very much.

I had better order more testing kits.

And Panadol Rapid.

Night 😩

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139350 Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #56 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:41pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:37pm: My 10 kilo front loader does not stop. That's what she said.
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Re: Covid19 test results
Reply #57 - Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:41pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2022 at 8:37pm:

My 10 kilo front loader does not stop.

That's what she said.

Yep. My brand new and hard working Bosch 10 kilo Front Loader washing machine. What's your problem Mr Trelos?

You know Greg I think I prefer you when you're sitting in the Brian Ross or Jim Lackey ids. Just saying.

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Jim Lahey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2447 Lisa's Merc Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #58 - Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 5:16am Lisa's husband is as fake as everything else. obviously another dero she found at centerlink.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Covid19 test results Reply #59 - Mar 23^rd, 2022 at 7:39am ^^^ Drunk sitting his unemployed cyber junkie barge arse in yet another fake troll id.
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