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Reply #180 - Apr 18^th, 2022 at 11:47pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 18^th, 2022 at 8:21pm:

The silly duckwit finds a fake news article from a journalist who i can't find anything he has written about democrats and thinks it's true. It's on the internet thats all the silly duckwit needs.

Several problems with that article the first being there are over 80K photos did the journalist think he saw and remebered all of them?

The article also caught telling lies with hard drive not being shared and being rebuffed when they asked for it.

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Several problems with that article the first being there are over 80K photos did the journalist think he saw and remebered all of them?

He still has the original copy. He can simply check and confirm that the images or folders do not exist on the drive.

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The article also caught telling lies with hard drive not being shared and being rebuffed when they asked for it.

Plenty of people had / have a copy even Matt gates holds a copy of the illegally stolen data. Apparently the House have also been provided and recorded a copy of the stolen data.

I suspect many of us remember that news organisations that wanted to vet the data before publishing were refused - this was true and reported at the time.

If you can recall the original publishers were unwilling to attribute their names to the story partly for this reason.

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Reply #181 - Apr 20^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

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Stopping the next Hunter Biden laptop cover-up

Hunter Biden reportedly paid over $1 million in back taxes for income he never claimed, but which was found in his emails — the ones from his laptop that had been dismissed by the mainstream media as Russian disinformation.

The FBI is conducting an ongoing investigation into Hunter’s business activities based on the contents of the laptop. It was only the Bureau's use of the laptop as evidence that finally forced the New York Times this month to admit that what it said last year was false.

See, as the New York Post broke the story that a laptop full of Hunter Biden's files indicated a potential pay-for-play scenario involving then-candidate Joe Biden just ahead of the 2020 presidential election, almost in real time more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter claiming the emails ‘have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation’. The signers said their national security experience made them ‘deeply suspicious the Russian government played a significant role in this case. If we are right this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.’

During my 24-year State Department career, I was exposed to foreign disinformation, and as a journalist today, I read the Hunter Biden emails. There is no way experienced intelligence officers could have mistaken the contents of the Biden laptop for fake, produced material.

Lastly, everything on the laptop was verifiable in an hour or two by an organisation like the NSA. They could have had an intern verify the emails, bank statements, wire transfers, etc. using about half the capabilities Edward Snowden revealed they have. James Clapper and John Brennan knew this, and knew equally well that the media, if they picked up the story at all, would not ask any such questions, and the NSA, et al, would never weigh in. It would be our little secret.

So we'll call that letter claiming the Biden emails were potential Russian disinfo a lie, a fabrication, made-up, fake stuff designed to influence an election. That's disinformation by any definition, and evidence the only disinformation op in 2020 was run against the American voters by their own intelligence community working with the media and on behalf of the Democrats.

Almost half of Americans now believe Trump would have won a second term if the media had fully reported on the laptop’s revelations. The scam worked. You know some of its hallmarks now, so keep a sharp eye out in 2024.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/stopping-the-next-hunter-biden-laptop-cover-...

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #182 - Apr 20^th, 2022 at 9:06pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 9:05pm:

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Stopping the next Hunter Biden laptop cover-up

Hunter Biden reportedly paid over $1 million in back taxes for income he never claimed, but which was found in his emails — the ones from his laptop that had been dismissed by the mainstream media as Russian disinformation.

The FBI is conducting an ongoing investigation into Hunter’s business activities based on the contents of the laptop. It was only the Bureau's use of the laptop as evidence that finally forced the New York Times this month to admit that what it said last year was false.

See, as the New York Post broke the story that a laptop full of Hunter Biden's files indicated a potential pay-for-play scenario involving then-candidate Joe Biden just ahead of the 2020 presidential election, almost in real time more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter claiming the emails ‘have all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation’. The signers said their national security experience made them ‘deeply suspicious the Russian government played a significant role in this case. If we are right this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.’

During my 24-year State Department career, I was exposed to foreign disinformation, and as a journalist today, I read the Hunter Biden emails. There is no way experienced intelligence officers could have mistaken the contents of the Biden laptop for fake, produced material.

Lastly, everything on the laptop was verifiable in an hour or two by an organisation like the NSA. They could have had an intern verify the emails, bank statements, wire transfers, etc. using about half the capabilities Edward Snowden revealed they have. James Clapper and John Brennan knew this, and knew equally well that the media, if they picked up the story at all, would not ask any such questions, and the NSA, et al, would never weigh in. It would be our little secret.

So we'll call that letter claiming the Biden emails were potential Russian disinfo a lie, a fabrication, made-up, fake stuff designed to influence an election. That's disinformation by any definition, and evidence the only disinformation op in 2020 was run against the American voters by their own intelligence community working with the media and on behalf of the Democrats.

Almost half of Americans now believe Trump would have won a second term if the media had fully reported on the laptop’s revelations. The scam worked. You know some of its hallmarks now, so keep a sharp eye out in 2024.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/stopping-the-next-hunter-biden-laptop-cover-...

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Reply #184 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #185 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 8:28pm

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Oh? And what's that then, old boy? Biden wears a wig? His son had an extra-marital affair? His wife had liposuction?

Deplorable stuff, no? But I'm curious. Did you catch any of the news on Donald J Trump over the past five years?

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Reply #186 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 8:34pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 8:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Oh? And what's that then, old boy? Biden wears a wig? His son had an extra-marital affair? His wife had liposuction?

Deplorable stuff, no? But I'm curious. Did you catch any of the news on Donald J Trump over the past five years?

Yeah, nuffin' was covered up, like there was about the Biddens and the Clintons, and a lot of it was made up deliberately, later grudgingly admitted or arse-covered.

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #187 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:03pm

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 8:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 8:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Oh? And what's that then, old boy? Biden wears a wig? His son had an extra-marital affair? His wife had liposuction?

Deplorable stuff, no? But I'm curious. Did you catch any of the news on Donald J Trump over the past five years?

Yeah, nuffin' was covered up, like there was about the Biddens and the Clintons, and a lot of it was made up deliberately, later grudgingly admitted or arse-covered.

Get Rudy onto it Grin

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #188 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:07pm

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Had Trump still been President the major difference would be that the US would be on Russia's side.

The USA dodged a bullet when they Dumped the senile Orange arse clown.

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Reply #189 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:09pm

Internet Entrepreneur Kim Dotcom: Hunter Biden Will Go To Jail Over Laptop & Joe Will Resign

Founder and former CEO of the file-hosting site Megaupload, Kim Dotcom, is the latest public figure to hint at new data being found on Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop.

Creating a stir online Thursday, Kim said he is working with “the data forensics team that analyzes the Hunter Biden Laptop data,” and that there will be a major release soon.

In addition, Kim claimed Hunter Biden will go to jail in relation to several crimes exposed in the data and that Joe Biden will be forced to resign.

Kim Dotcom
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This is an announcement that the Hunter Biden Laptop data, incl. all previously deleted and recovered files, is now with @Wikileaks.

The purpose of this tweet is to take the heat off the Swiss data forensics team that worked on the data.
Kim Dotcom
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Wikileaks has a powerful network of trusted media partners

Together they’ll make sure that every bit of data, every email, text message and document will be thoroughly analyzed.
9:15 PM · Apr 15, 2022

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This isn’t a small task. We are talking about over 100 thousand emails, backups of phones and messages, encrypted zip folders that need to be cracked, etc.

The forensics team found that Hunter installed Spyware on phones of family members and made backups of those messages too.
9:15 PM · Apr 15, 2022

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I work with the data forensics team that analyzes the Hunter Biden Laptop data.

Expect a major release soon.
The data reveals numerous crimes.
Hunter Biden will go to jail.
Joe Biden will resign.

Glad to help shutting him down.

This statement echoes similar claims recently made by researcher and political activist Jack Maxey, who said he took his copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop to Switzerland where forensics experts were able to find more data than originally detected.

Maxey got his copy of the laptop hard drive while working with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon and former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

The man who originally reported the Hunter laptop after receiving it while working at a Delaware computer repair shop, JP Isaac, recently pushed back against Maxey’s claim of finding more data.

Isaac said on NewsMax Thursday “the original laptop only had a 250 gig drive” and that he was able to recover 220 gigs of data off of it, concluding there can’t be 450 gigs on the device.

Explaining himself on the social media site Gettr, Maxey wrote, “the deleted files found are highly compressed (around 130gb) and when uncompressed they turn into 450gb.”

It’s uncertain if Kim Dotcom is working with Maxey’s team or another group with access to the laptop.

The internet entrepreneur and political activist told his Twitter followers Thursday part of the plan is to expose the media outlets that failed to report on the story despite receiving copies months ago.

Kim Dotcom
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The Hunter Biden laptop data was provided to major media organizations months ago.

Part of the plan is to name those who have received copies of the data and to expose them for not acting on it and/or covering it up.

They are accomplices. They are aiding and abetting criminals.
9:45 PM · Apr 14, 2022

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The Hunter Biden laptop data will be headline news next week. They cannot contain it or discredit it anymore. Stay tuned for updates.
10:38 PM · Apr 14, 2022

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To be clear, because of legal advice and the sensitive nature of the Hunter Biden Laptop data I have refused to receive a copy.

But I’m in daily contact with the forensic team in Switzerland. I tweeted what they told me.

@TuckerCarlson and his team are filming in Zurich today.
12:22 AM · Apr 15, 2022

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One of the most concerning parts of the Hunter Biden Laptop data is the involvement of the Biden family in Ukraine bio labs, researching the genetic modification of deadly viruses to make them more transmissible to humans. It’s the worst kind of research. It can kill millions.
12:07 AM · Apr 15, 2022

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #190 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Had Trump still been President the major difference would be that the US would be on Russia's side.

The USA dodged a bullet when they Dumped the senile Orange arse clown.

That would have prevented a war in Ukraine, thousands of Ukraine and Russian lives would have been saved.

Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war and so many lives have been lost.

This never would have happened under Trump.

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Reply #191 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:15pm

Steampipe wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Had Trump still been President the major difference would be that the US would be on Russia's side.

The USA dodged a bullet when they Dumped the senile Orange arse clown.

That would have prevented a war in Ukraine, thousands of Ukraine and Russian lives would have been saved.

Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war and so many lives have been lost.

This never would have happened under Trump.

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Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war

Putin Pushed Russia into war. It had nothing to do with the US.

There you have exposed yourself. Helping Russia to take Ukraine would not have prevented the war and it is a terrible idea.

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Reply #192 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:19pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Steampipe wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

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NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Had Trump still been President the major difference would be that the US would be on Russia's side.

The USA dodged a bullet when they Dumped the senile Orange arse clown.

That would have prevented a war in Ukraine, thousands of Ukraine and Russian lives would have been saved.

Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war and so many lives have been lost.

This never would have happened under Trump.

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Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war

Putin Pushed Russia into was. It had nothing to do with the US.

There you have exposed yourself. Helping Russia to take Ukraine would not have prevented the war and it is a terrible idea.

Dems played Ukraine, they interfered in politics in Ukraine and Putin said enough.

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Reply #193 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:29pm

wombatwoody wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:09pm:

Internet Entrepreneur Kim Dotcom: Hunter Biden Will Go To Jail Over Laptop & Joe Will Resign

Founder and former CEO of the file-hosting site Megaupload, Kim Dotcom, is the latest public figure to hint at new data being found on Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop.

Creating a stir online Thursday, Kim said he is working with “the data forensics team that analyzes the Hunter Biden Laptop data,” and that there will be a major release soon.

In addition, Kim claimed Hunter Biden will go to jail in relation to several crimes exposed in the data and that Joe Biden will be forced to resign.

·
Apr 15, 2022
This is an announcement that the Hunter Biden Laptop data, incl. all previously deleted and recovered files, is now with @Wikileaks.

The purpose of this tweet is to take the heat off the Swiss data forensics team that worked on the data.

Wikileaks has a powerful network of trusted media partners

Together they’ll make sure that every bit of data, every email, text message and document will be thoroughly analyzed.
9:15 PM · Apr 15, 2022

Replying to @KimDotcom
This isn’t a small task. We are talking about over 100 thousand emails, backups of phones and messages, encrypted zip folders that need to be cracked, etc.

The forensics team found that Hunter installed Spyware on phones of family members and made backups of those messages too.
9:15 PM · Apr 15, 2022

I work with the data forensics team that analyzes the Hunter Biden Laptop data.

Expect a major release soon.
The data reveals numerous crimes.
Hunter Biden will go to jail.
Joe Biden will resign.

Glad to help shutting him down.

This statement echoes similar claims recently made by researcher and political activist Jack Maxey, who said he took his copy of Hunter Biden’s laptop to Switzerland where forensics experts were able to find more data than originally detected.

Maxey got his copy of the laptop hard drive while working with former Trump adviser Steve Bannon and former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

The man who originally reported the Hunter laptop after receiving it while working at a Delaware computer repair shop, JP Isaac, recently pushed back against Maxey’s claim of finding more data.

Isaac said on NewsMax Thursday “the original laptop only had a 250 gig drive” and that he was able to recover 220 gigs of data off of it, concluding there can’t be 450 gigs on the device.

Explaining himself on the social media site Gettr, Maxey wrote, “the deleted files found are highly compressed (around 130gb) and when uncompressed they turn into 450gb.”

It’s uncertain if Kim Dotcom is working with Maxey’s team or another group with access to the laptop.

The internet entrepreneur and political activist told his Twitter followers Thursday part of the plan is to expose the media outlets that failed to report on the story despite receiving copies months ago.

Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
The Hunter Biden laptop data was provided to major media organizations months ago.

Part of the plan is to name those who have received copies of the data and to expose them for not acting on it and/or covering it up.

They are accomplices. They are aiding and abetting criminals.
9:45 PM · Apr 14, 2022

Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
The Hunter Biden laptop data will be headline news next week. They cannot contain it or discredit it anymore. Stay tuned for updates.
10:38 PM · Apr 14, 2022

Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
To be clear, because of legal advice and the sensitive nature of the Hunter Biden Laptop data I have refused to receive a copy.

But I’m in daily contact with the forensic team in Switzerland. I tweeted what they told me.

@TuckerCarlson and his team are filming in Zurich today.
12:22 AM · Apr 15, 2022

Kim Dotcom
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One of the most concerning parts of the Hunter Biden Laptop data is the involvement of the Biden family in Ukraine bio labs, researching the genetic modification of deadly viruses to make them more transmissible to humans. It’s the worst kind of research. It can kill millions.
12:07 AM · Apr 15, 2022

This is the relevant bit.

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The man who originally reported the Hunter laptop after receiving it while working at a Delaware computer repair shop, JP Isaac, recently pushed back against Maxey’s claim of finding more data.

Isaac said on NewsMax Thursday “the original laptop only had a 250 gig drive” and that he was able to recover 220 gigs of data off of it, concluding there can’t be 450 gigs on the device.

And not only that it is the FBI that have the physical drive all that these guys have is a copy of the data off of the drive. It is not possible to recover more data when you do not have the real drive and not even an image of the real drive.

Kim Dotcom: Do you really want to believe this guy ?

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As a teenager, Schmitz acquired a reputation in his native Germany after saying that he had bypassed the security of NASA, the Pentagon and Citibank under the name of Kimble.

Operated a bulletin board system called "House of Coolness" where users would trade pirated software.

arrested in March 1994 for selling stolen phone numbers and held in custody for a month. He was arrested again when on more hacking charges and convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud.

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Reply #194 - Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:32pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 10:15pm:

Steampipe wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:16pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 9:07pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2022 at 5:14am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2022 at 11:52pm:

Quote:

NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit

It's still a nothing burger.

If what is now known and proven had been out in the open in October 2020 Trump would be in the WH and there would be no war.

Bidden would be forgotten, enjoying his ice creams in Delaware.

Had Trump still been President the major difference would be that the US would be on Russia's side.

The USA dodged a bullet when they Dumped the senile Orange arse clown.

That would have prevented a war in Ukraine, thousands of Ukraine and Russian lives would have been saved.

Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war and so many lives have been lost.

This never would have happened under Trump.

Quote:

Its very sad that the US pushed Russia into a war

Putin Pushed Russia into was. It had nothing to do with the US.

There you have exposed yourself. Helping Russia to take Ukraine would not have prevented the war and it is a terrible idea.

Nothing to do with the US.

Perhaps you should reconsider the involvement of Biden in Ukraine, it is a pretty messy story and Russia had no option (right or wrong) once Biden became president.

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The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking. Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post‐Yanukovych government. The U.S‑favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that “Yats is the guy” who would do the best job.

Nuland and Pyatt were engaged in such planning at a time when Yanukovych was still Ukraine’s lawful president. It was startling to have diplomatic representatives of a foreign country—and a country that routinely touts the need to respect democratic processes and the sovereignty of other nations—to be scheming about removing an elected government and replacing it with officials meriting U.S. approval.

Washington’s conduct not only constituted meddling, it bordered on micromanagement. At one point, Pyatt mentioned the complex dynamic among the three principal opposition leaders, Yatsenyuk, Oleh Tyahnybok, and Vitali Klitschko. Both Pyatt and Nuland wanted to keep Tyahnybok and Klitschko out of an interim government. In the former case, they worried about his extremist ties; in the latter, they seemed to want him to wait and make a bid for office on a longer‐term basis. Nuland stated that “I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary.” She added that what Yatseniuk needed “is Klitsch and Tyanhybok on the outside.”

The two diplomats also were prepared to escalate the already extensive U.S. involvement in Ukraine’s political turbulence. Pyatt stated bluntly that “we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing [the political transition].” Nuland clearly had Vice President Joe Biden in mind for that role. Noting that the vice president’s national security adviser was in direct contact with her, Nuland related that she told him “probably tomorrow for an atta‐boy and to get the details to stick. So Biden’s willing.”

Both the Obama administration and most of the American news media portrayed the Euromaidan Revolution as a spontaneous, popular uprising against a corrupt and brutal government.

A February 24, 2014, Washington Post editorial celebrated the Maidan demonstrators and their successful campaign to overthrow Yanukovych. The “moves were democratic,” the Washington Post concluded, and “Kiev is now controlled by pro‐Western parties.”

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