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Reply #510 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 2:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:55am:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 10:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 10:27pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

You lot think you know more than an experienced lawyer.

Trump had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into his residence automatically became declassified. A president can do that.

English not your first language?

"All that said, there is an even more fundamental reason why Trump’s claims of declassification are likely to fall short as a legal defense.

"While there are criminal statutes that hinge on classification, they aren’t among the criminal offenses that the FBI included on the search warrant.

"To the contrary, all three of the criminal provisions that the FBI did list can be—and two routinely are—applied to misconduct that has absolutely nothing to do with classified information, making it unclear whether Trump’s claims of declassification would make any difference even if true."

I ignored that because you didn't provide a link.

Does It Matter What (If Anything) Trump Declassified?

"All that said, there is an even more fundamental reason why Trump’s claims of declassification are likely to fall short as a legal defense.

"While there are criminal statutes that hinge on classification, they aren’t among the criminal offenses that the FBI included on the search warrant.

"To the contrary, all three of the criminal provisions that the FBI did list can be—and two routinely are—applied to misconduct that has absolutely nothing to do with classified information, making it unclear whether Trump’s claims of declassification would make any difference even if true."

Scott R. Anderson is a fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution and a Senior Fellow in the National Security Law Program at Columbia Law School. He previously served as an Attorney-Adviser in the Office of the Legal Adviser at the U.S. Department of State and as the legal advisor for the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, Iraq.

Does he know more than wombatwoody though? Grin

Yes, Greggery, but can you provide a link from a reliable source?

That's a leftard academic Deep State legal blog. Wombat's going to want something respectable.

Russia Times, perhaps?

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Reply #511 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 3:22pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 10:59am:

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 17^th, 2022 at 3:11pm:

Biden sued for ‘colluding’ with Big Tech to suppress free speech on Hunter laptop, COVID

By Patrick Reilly, The New York Post

Two Republican-led states have reportedly filed a lawsuit against President Joe Biden and other top administration officials, alleging they “pressured and colluded” with Big Tech companies to squash The Post’s Hunter Biden laptop story and censor information related to COVID-19’s lab origins.

The lawsuit, filed Thursday by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, accuses top government officials of conspiring to suppress information with social media giants Meta, Twitter and YouTube “under the guise of combating misinformation,” Fox News reported.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, Dr. Anthony Fauci, and Nina Jankowicz — the head of the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) new and controversial “Disinformation Governance Board” were among the other top officials and federal agencies named as defendants in the suit, which was filed in the US District Court for the Western District of Louisiana.

The 86-page suit accuses the federal government of violating free speech rights by threatening big tech companies into silencing conservative viewpoints.

“Having threatened and cajoled social-media platforms for years to censor viewpoints and speakers disfavored by the Left, senior government officials in the Executive Branch have moved into a phase of open collusion with social media companies to suppress disfavored speakers, viewpoints, and content on social-media platforms under the Orwellian guise of halting so-called ‘disinformation.’ ‘misinformation,’ and ‘malinformation,’” the filling claims.

“Labeling disfavored speech ‘misinformation’ or ‘disinformation’ does not strip it of First Amendment Protection … with the common understanding that some false statements are inevitable if there is to be an open and vigorous expression of views in public and private conversation … the First Amendment seeks to guarantee.”

The suit specifically accuses the government of suppression in the case of The Post’s Hunter Biden laptop story, the theory that COVID-19 stemmed from a Wuhan lab, the effectiveness of wearing masks to stop the spread of COVID-19 and the security of mail-in voting during the pandemic.

“Perhaps most notoriously, social media platforms aggressively censored an October 14, 2020 New York Post expose about the contents of the laptop of Hunter Biden, which had been abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and contained compromising photos and email communications about corrupt foreign business deals,” the filing states.

After The Post report on then-candidate Biden’s son was published, Twitter locked the paper out of its account for more than two weeks over baseless charges that the exposé used hacked information.

Twitter also blocked users from sharing the link to The Post article calling the link “potentially harmful.” Facebook also said it would limit the spread of The Post’s story on its own platform. Just last month — 17-months after The Post’s report was published — The Washington Post and New York Times both quietly confirmed the existence of Hunter Biden’s laptop and emails.

In addition, the two attorneys general said that Facebook censored posts that mentioned the COVID-19 lab-leak theory — which claimed the virus may have originated from a lab in Wuhan, China. The suit alleges Dr. Fauci “was orchestrating a campaign to falsely discredit the lab-leak theory” with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg who only stopped censoring the theory on the platform after media reports suggested it as feasible.

Landry and Schmitt noted that YouTube blocked videos posted by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul that questioned the efficacy of wearing cloth masks during the pandemic — which the CDC later confirmed to be less effective than other face coverings.

The lawsuit further accuses social media platforms of “aggressively censoring speech that raised concerns about the security of voting by mail, a major election-security issue.”

“There is a common theme to all these examples of wrong-headed censorship: Each involved censoring truthful or reliable information that contradicted left-wing political narratives,” the suit states.

The attorneys asked the court to declare that the defendants violated the First Amendment and that the defendants had exceeded their statutory authority. They’ve also asked the court to stop the officials from “continuing to engage in unlawful conduct” to suppress free speech.

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 17^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

And where has that been proved beyond reasonable doubt?

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And where has that been proved beyond reasonable doubt?

Sad K you won't trick Wombat that easy, It would be a double standard if he applied the same standard to himself as well as others.

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #512 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 3:25pm

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 10:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 10:27pm:

wombatwoody wrote on Dec 18^th, 2022 at 9:44pm:

You lot think you know more than an experienced lawyer.

Trump had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken into his residence automatically became declassified. A president can do that.

English not your first language?

"All that said, there is an even more fundamental reason why Trump’s claims of declassification are likely to fall short as a legal defense.

"While there are criminal statutes that hinge on classification, they aren’t among the criminal offenses that the FBI included on the search warrant.

"To the contrary, all three of the criminal provisions that the FBI did list can be—and two routinely are—applied to misconduct that has absolutely nothing to do with classified information, making it unclear whether Trump’s claims of declassification would make any difference even if true."

I ignored that because you didn't provide a link.

To repeat, if you want to discuss the FBI raid start a new thread.

You have no place trying to discuss this if you are so unaware of the generally known basics that have been common knowledge for 6 months or more.

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #513 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:11pm

Come now, Dnarever, don't be so mean. Wombat believes the same standards to apply to all. Hillary's CORRUPT emails, Mr Trump's alleged documents, the lot. One law for all, no?

If Mr Trump has been found to have engaged in any wrongdoing, corruption or criminality, Wombat would like to see him charged, convicted and jailed, if it should come to that, never to run for prez again.

And yes, the same applies to any family member profiteering off their parents' political office. As Wombat has shown, Hunter Biden once travelled on Air Force Two at taxpayers' expense, can you believe it? If Mr Trump's children were found to have done anything remotely corrupt, there would be a political outcry.

As usual, it's one law for the leftards and another for the rest of us.

Typical.

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Reply #514 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 9:08pm

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #515 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 9:53pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 5:11pm:

Come now, Dnarever, don't be so mean. Wombat believes the same standards to apply to all. Hillary's CORRUPT emails, Mr Trump's alleged documents, the lot. One law for all, no?

If Mr Trump has been found to have engaged in any wrongdoing, corruption or criminality, Wombat would like to see him charged, convicted and jailed, if it should come to that, never to run for prez again.

And yes, the same applies to any family member profiteering off their parents' political office. As Wombat has shown, Hunter Biden once travelled on Air Force Two at taxpayers' expense, can you believe it? If Mr Trump's children were found to have done anything remotely corrupt, there would be a political outcry.

As usual, it's one law for the leftards and another for the rest of us.

Typical.

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Mr Trump's alleged documents

OH I see you could have been on Trumps legal team thinking like that , Jenna Rudy, Christina Bobb, The Cracken, Alina Habba and Karnal.

Brilliant - It isn't that Donald didn't take them just that they aren't really documents.

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Reply #516 - Dec 19^th, 2022 at 11:31pm

Dnarever, those documents were declassified. Mr Trump said. A president just has to think they're declassified and they are. Read Wombat's link. That's the law.

Secondly, we don't know whether they were placed there by corrupt FBI agents. The Deep State is capable of anything these days. Slipping 33 boxes into Melania's panty drawers with three of Mr Trump's lawyers looking on would not be out of the question. We need to keep an open mind on this.

Besides, why were they going through Melania's drawers to begin with? Did they have a warrant? I think not.

Thirdly, a prez can do whatever he likes - executive privilege. Mr Trump didn't stop being the 45th president of the United States when he left office, he retains that title for life. If you go to Mar a Lago and happen to meet him in the dining room, you have to call him Mr President. The staff tell you that when you go in. There's a distinct protocol for these things. Tourists from around the world go there all the time, hoping to meet the great man.

Fourthly, Mr Trump's lawyers said he locked those documents up at the National Archives and Records Office's request. We can all rest assured: none of the tourists got their hands on them. Only staff would have gone into the basement, and that was just to check their messages or have a smoke or whatever. It was strictly staff only, okay?

And lastly, what's the big deal? They were just momentos from Mr Trump's time as prez, the best American president since maybe Lincoln. Why shouldn't he keep a few souvenirs of his time in office? You would - anybody would.

Look, Wombat's right. If you want to discuss a boring bit of paperwork, you should start another thread. We're here to discuss the biggest crime scene in the history of America: Hunter Biden's laptop.

If the leftards have a problem with that, they should take it up with FD.

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Reply #517 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 10:10pm

Why Did the FBI Want Joe Biden to Become President?
By John Leonard

Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing. He didn’t know the industry and didn’t speak the language. The only thing Junior brought to the table was his last name. He made deals with foreign agents and foreign corporations to acquire rare materials like cobalt (used in electric cars) that was sold to Chinese interests for profit. While on an extended drug binge, he took a computer with lots of incriminating evidence to a repair shop and forgot or didn't care what he’d done with it. Then he ignored all the calls from the shop telling him to come pick up his computer. That would be huge news, wouldn’t it?

Of course, Donald Trump, Sr. would be crucified. The media coverage would be nonstop. After years of witch hunts, they would finally have legitimate criminal behavior to investigate. The thousands of hours of airtime devoted to fake scandals would finally have paid off.

But change the name from Donald Trump, Jr. to Hunter Biden and the political party that stands to suffer from the revelations from Republican to Democrat, and the media becomes curiously uninterested in doing their job, which is to report the truth: That Hunter Biden is the bagman for the Biden family crime syndicate. The latest Twitter Files information drop proves it. Not only has Hunter’s corrupt and criminal business deals been exposed, the extraordinary lengths to which the FBI acted to suppress a true story have been exposed, too.

FBI agents swear to an oath of office that reads, “I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Please remember that oath as we now talk about the latest development in the ongoing saga known as Hunter Biden laptop information found in The Twitter Files. If you haven’t been following the Twitter Files information drops before now, you need to start immediately. The latest release curated by Michael Shellenberger is absolutely stunning. The quick summary is that the FBI does not look good. They look terrible. In fact, they look like criminals. The FBI has been operating a lot more like a crime syndicate than federal law enforcement, and they have been keenly interested in suppressing free speech on social media. Words such as “infuriating” are entirely inadequate to convey the feelings of outrage and anger I’m experiencing right now.

The FBI has been controlling what you and I have been allowed to say on the Internet. The Bureau had a bunch of “former” employees on Twitter’s payroll actively helping suppress free speech on their platform. The FBI had secret channels of communication between an agency of theirs and a privately-owned social media company that were used exclusively to control the public narrative about an election-changing event. The FBI also paid Twitter millions of taxpayer dollars to suppress our own free speech. Is this a great country, or what?

Who or what authorized them, a federal agency, to spend my tax dollars on manipulating social media to deliberately advance a false narrative about Hunter’s laptop? It’s difficult to find the right words to describe the depths of their corruption that has now been exposed for the whole world to see, but I’m certainly going to try my best. “Unbelievable” isn’t a very good descriptor either, because we have tons of evidence that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the FBI took extraordinary measures to manipulate the 2020 election in favor of Joe Biden.

Here’s what we now know about Hunter Biden’s laptop: the FBI subpoenaed and took possession from a computer repair store in Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019. With the resources at their disposal, the FBI could have easily verified the computer was real and the information stored on it was accurate the very same day. A small team led by investigative journalist Peter Schweizer managed to verify the data within a couple of days, as the New York Post had done in the now-famous article published Oct. 14, 2020, that social media immediately suppressed as “Russian disinformation” because the FBI told them it was Russian disinformation, even though the social media companies themselves had no evidence of such traffic and certainly should have known better. But did they care? Of course not.

Twitter had become quite the popular landing spot for former Bureau employees, but one employee in particular stands out: James Baker, an FBI counsel during the “Russian collusion” hoax investigation that plagued the Trump administration. The very same guy who approved the falsely altered Carter Page FISA warrant was caught filtering the information being meted to journalists Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Shellenberger. He’s the primary focus of my rage this morning.

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Reply #518 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 10:10pm

A question popped into my head: how could these people possibly think they could get away with a conspiracy like this and corruption to this degree? But then it occurred to me that they have been getting away with it and no one has yet to suffer a consequence of note – Kevin Clinesmith received probation for deliberately lying on government documents in order to produce incriminating evidence against a U.S. citizen coincidentally named Carter Page. James Wolfe only received two months in prison for leaking classified information to his lover in the media and lying to the FBI about it. Meanwhile, people who simply walked through the Capitol building on January 6 continue to rot in prison.

Yes, they have gotten away with it. Joe Biden has been installed as president and will serve two more years. It is highly doubtful that any of the corrupt actors involved in undermining the Trump administration at every turn and propping up Joe Biden will ever face the consequences their actions deserve. People like former FBI officials Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok are being rewarded with lucrative jobs in the media instead of prison sentences. There is no justice in this world. I’m not merely infuriated, I’m apoplectic with rage.

If Elon Musk had not bought Twitter and brought all this damning information to light, we never would have known for sure. We could suspect all we wanted, but without the proof, no smoking guns, we couldn’t say for sure the FBI remained corrupt under Christopher Wray and written off his ineptitude to gross incompetence rather than corruption. Musk is a true (South) African/American hero, and I sincerely hope he’s got the best personal security in the world.

Another question popped into my head: why was the FBI working so feverishly to get the Biden administration into the White House, when they had to know how horribly corrupt the whole family was? Remember they took possession of the evidence on Dec. 9, 2019.

The most obvious answer that comes to my mind is that the administration, particularly the intelligence community, knew he was the candidate they could control. Conservatives left and right are being arrested and prosecuted for ridiculous reasons, crimes against conservatives aren’t being investigated, and the truth is being filtered and distorted to the point that it is unrecognizable. We’ve long suspected FBI corruption, and now we have irrefutable proof that it has been happening and continues to happen. It was to preserve their power at all costs. Perhaps the only truth Chuck Schumer ever told was when he famously warned Trump that the intelligence community had “six ways from Sunday” to come after him, and would do so, to protect its fiefdom.

This leads one to an obvious conclusion: the FBI has become the American Stasi. As of today, I have become very distrustful and afraid of my own government. I halfway expect my house to be raided and my own arrest coming for the crime of speaking truth to power.

Only one word accurately describes the crime the FBI has committed, and that word is treason.

May the punishment fit the crime.

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Reply #519 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:02pm

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Michael Shellenberger
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1. TWITTER FILES: PART 7

The FBI & the Hunter Biden Laptop

How the FBI & intelligence community discredited factual information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings both after and *before* The New York Post revealed the contents of his laptop on October 14, 2020

https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604871630613753856

Interesting read on FBI instructing Twitter to censor anything on Hunter Biden.

Would this have come out if Elon didn't buy Twitter?

The FBI don't know what they did with Hunters laptop, how convenient. We have seen the receipt for it we know they have it.
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Where is Hunter Biden’s Laptop?

The FBI has no clue!!

https://twitter.com/Pismo_B/status/1604890508865593344

The FBI is the American version of Inspector Clouseau!

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Reply #520 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:10pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2022 at 11:31pm:

Dnarever, those documents were declassified. Mr Trump said. A president just has to think they're declassified and they are. Read Wombat's link. That's the law.

Secondly, we don't know whether they were placed there by corrupt FBI agents. The Deep State is capable of anything these days. Slipping 33 boxes into Melania's panty drawers with three of Mr Trump's lawyers looking on would not be out of the question. We need to keep an open mind on this.

Besides, why were they going through Melania's drawers to begin with? Did they have a warrant? I think not.

Thirdly, a prez can do whatever he likes - executive privilege. Mr Trump didn't stop being the 45th president of the United States when he left office, he retains that title for life. If you go to Mar a Lago and happen to meet him in the dining room, you have to call him Mr President. The staff tell you that when you go in. There's a distinct protocol for these things. Tourists from around the world go there all the time, hoping to meet the great man.

Fourthly, Mr Trump's lawyers said he locked those documents up at the National Archives and Records Office's request. We can all rest assured: none of the tourists got their hands on them. Only staff would have gone into the basement, and that was just to check their messages or have a smoke or whatever. It was strictly staff only, okay?

And lastly, what's the big deal? They were just momentos from Mr Trump's time as prez, the best American president since maybe Lincoln. Why shouldn't he keep a few souvenirs of his time in office? You would - anybody would.

Look, Wombat's right. If you want to discuss a boring bit of paperwork, you should start another thread. We're here to discuss the biggest crime scene in the history of America: Hunter Biden's laptop.

If the leftards have a problem with that, they should take it up with FD.

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those documents were declassified.

No he turned them into pumpkins.

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Reply #521 - Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:28pm

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 10:10pm:

Why Did the FBI Want Joe Biden to Become President?
By John Leonard

Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing. He didn’t know the industry and didn’t speak the language. The only thing Junior brought to the table was his last name. He made deals with foreign agents and foreign corporations to acquire rare materials like cobalt (used in electric cars) that was sold to Chinese interests for profit. While on an extended drug binge, he took a computer with lots of incriminating evidence to a repair shop and forgot or didn't care what he’d done with it. Then he ignored all the calls from the shop telling him to come pick up his computer. That would be huge news, wouldn’t it?

Of course, Donald Trump, Sr. would be crucified. The media coverage would be nonstop. After years of witch hunts, they would finally have legitimate criminal behavior to investigate. The thousands of hours of airtime devoted to fake scandals would finally have paid off.

But change the name from Donald Trump, Jr. to Hunter Biden and the political party that stands to suffer from the revelations from Republican to Democrat, and the media becomes curiously uninterested in doing their job, which is to report the truth: That Hunter Biden is the bagman for the Biden family crime syndicate. The latest Twitter Files information drop proves it. Not only has Hunter’s corrupt and criminal business deals been exposed, the extraordinary lengths to which the FBI acted to suppress a true story have been exposed, too.

FBI agents swear to an oath of office that reads, “I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Please remember that oath as we now talk about the latest development in the ongoing saga known as Hunter Biden laptop information found in The Twitter Files. If you haven’t been following the Twitter Files information drops before now, you need to start immediately. The latest release curated by Michael Shellenberger is absolutely stunning. The quick summary is that the FBI does not look good. They look terrible. In fact, they look like criminals. The FBI has been operating a lot more like a crime syndicate than federal law enforcement, and they have been keenly interested in suppressing free speech on social media. Words such as “infuriating” are entirely inadequate to convey the feelings of outrage and anger I’m experiencing right now.

The FBI has been controlling what you and I have been allowed to say on the Internet. The Bureau had a bunch of “former” employees on Twitter’s payroll actively helping suppress free speech on their platform. The FBI had secret channels of communication between an agency of theirs and a privately-owned social media company that were used exclusively to control the public narrative about an election-changing event. The FBI also paid Twitter millions of taxpayer dollars to suppress our own free speech. Is this a great country, or what?

Here’s what we now know about Hunter Biden’s laptop: the FBI subpoenaed and took possession from a computer repair store in Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019. With the resources at their disposal, the FBI could have easily verified the computer was real and the information stored on it was accurate the very same day. A small team led by investigative journalist Peter Schweizer managed to verify the data within a couple of days, as the New York Post had done in the now-famous article published Oct. 14, 2020, that social media immediately suppressed as “Russian disinformation” because the FBI told them it was Russian disinformation, even though the social media companies themselves had no evidence of such traffic and certainly should have known better. But did they care? Of course not.

Twitter had become quite the popular landing spot for former Bureau employees, but one employee in particular stands out: James Baker, an FBI counsel during the “Russian collusion” hoax investigation that plagued the Trump administration. The very same guy who approved the falsely altered Carter Page FISA warrant was caught filtering the information being meted to journalists Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Shellenberger. He’s the primary focus of my rage this morning.

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Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing.

Why imagine anything, why not just look into the diplomatic visit to China where Both Trump and Ivanka came home with several million dollars worth of personal trade marks and nobody said anything.

No need at all for all the BS you typed.

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Reply #522 - Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 12:57am

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 10:10pm:

Why Did the FBI Want Joe Biden to Become President?
By John Leonard

Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing. He didn’t know the industry and didn’t speak the language. The only thing Junior brought to the table was his last name. He made deals with foreign agents and foreign corporations to acquire rare materials like cobalt (used in electric cars) that was sold to Chinese interests for profit. While on an extended drug binge, he took a computer with lots of incriminating evidence to a repair shop and forgot or didn't care what he’d done with it. Then he ignored all the calls from the shop telling him to come pick up his computer. That would be huge news, wouldn’t it?

Of course, Donald Trump, Sr. would be crucified. The media coverage would be nonstop. After years of witch hunts, they would finally have legitimate criminal behavior to investigate. The thousands of hours of airtime devoted to fake scandals would finally have paid off.

But change the name from Donald Trump, Jr. to Hunter Biden and the political party that stands to suffer from family crime syndicate. The latest Twitter Files information drop proves it. Not only has Hunter’s corrupt and criminal business deals been exposed, the extraordinary lengths to which the FBI acted to suppress a true story have been exposed, too.

FBI agents swear to an oath of office that reads, “I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Please remember that oath as we now talk about the latest development in the ongoing saga known as Hunter Biden laptop information found in The Twitter Files. If you haven’t been following the Twitter Files information drops before now, you need to start immediately. The latest release curated by Michael Shellenberger is absolutely stunning. The quick summary is that the FBI does not look good. They look terrible. In fact, they look like criminals. The FBI has been operating a lot more like a crime syndicate than federal law enforcement, and they have been keenly interested in suppressing free speech on social media. Words such as “infuriating” are entirely inadequate to convey the feelings of outrage and anger I’m experiencing right now.

The FBI has been controlling what you and I have been allowed to say on the Internet. The Bureau had a bunch of “former” employees on Twitter’s payroll actively helping suppress free speech on their platform. The FBI had secret channels of communication between an agency of theirs and a privately-owned social media company that were used exclusively to control the eat country, or what?

Who or what authorized them, a federal agency, to spend my tax dollars on manipulating social media to deliberately advance a false narrative about Hunter’s laptop? It’s difficult to find the right words to describe the depths of their corruption that has now been exposed for the whole world to see, but I’m certainly going to try my best. “Unbelievable” isn’t a very good descriptor either, because we have tons of evidence that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the FBI took extraordinary measures to manipulate the 2020 election in favor of Joe Biden.

Here’s what we now know about Hunter Biden’s laptop: the FBI subpoenaed and took possession from a computer repair store in Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019. With the resources at their disposal, the FBI could have easily verified the computer was real and the information stored on it was accurate the very same day. A small team led by investigative journalist Peter Schweizer managed to verify the data within a couple of days, as the New York Post had done in the now-famous article published Oct. 14, 2020, that social media immediately suppressed as “Russian disinformation” because the FBI told them it was Russian disinformation, even though the social media companies themselves had no evidence of such traffic and certainly should have known better. But did they care? Of course not.

Twitter had become quite the popular landing spot for former Bureau employees, but one employee in particular stands out: James Baker, an FBI counsel during the “Russian collusion” hoax investigation that plagued the Trump administration. The very same guy who approved the falsely altered Carter Page FISA warrant was caught filtering the information being meted to journalists Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Shellenberger. He’s the primary focus of my rage this morning.

Good point, Mort. Why didn't the New York Post journalist sign off on the story?

Why didn't Tucker Carlson release his flash drive?

And why hasn't the Breitbart journalist doing this softcock interview with John Mac Paul Isaac released the files from Hunter's laptop? In fact, why hasn't Isaac himself?

We keep asking this, and nobody to date can say why this is. Would you like to have a stab?

Over to you.

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #523 - Dec 22^nd, 2022 at 1:15am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:28pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 10:10pm:

Why Did the FBI Want Joe Biden to Become President?
By John Leonard

Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing. He didn’t know the industry and didn’t speak the language. The ic cars) that was sold to Chinese interests for profit. While on an extended drug binge, he took a computer with lots of incriminating evidence to a repair shop and forgot or didn't care what he’d done with it. Then he ignored all the calls from the shop telling him to come pick up his computer. That would be huge news, wouldn’t it?

Of course, Donald Trump, Sr. would be crucified. The media coverage would be nonstop. After years of witch hunts, they would finally have legitimate criminal behavior to investigate. The thousands of hours of airtime devoted to fake scandals would finally have paid off.

But change the name from Donald Trump, Jr. to Hunter Biden and the political party that stands to suffer from the revelations from Republican to Democrat, and the media becomes curiously uninterested in doing their job, which is to report the truth: That Hunter Biden is the bagman for the Biden family crime syndicate. The latest Twitter Files information drop proves it. Not only has Hunter’s corrupt and criminal business deals been exposed, the extraordinary lengths to which the FBI acted to suppress a true story have been exposed, too.

FBI agents swear to an oath of office that reads, “I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Please remember that oath as we now talk about the latest development in the ongoing saga known as Hunter Biden laptop information found in The Twitter Files. If you haven’t been following the Twitter Files information drops before now, you need to start immediately. The latest release curated by Michael Shellenberger is absolutely stunning. The quick summary is that the FBI does not look good. They look terrible. In fact, they look like criminals. The FBI has been operating a lot more like a crime syndicate than federal law enforcement, and they have been keenly interested in suppressing free speech on social media. Words such as “infuriating” are entirely inadequate to convey the feelings of outrage and anger I’m experiencing right now.

The FBI has been controlling what you and I have been allowed to say on the Internet. The Bureau had a bunch of “former” employees on Twitter’s payroll actively helping suppress free speech on their platform. The FBI had secret channels of communication between an agency of theirs and a privately-owned social media company that were used exclusively to control the public narrative about an election-changing event. The FBI also paid Twitter millions of taxpayer dollars to suppress our own free speech. Is this a great country, or what?

Here’s what we now know about Hunter Biden’s laptop: the FBI subpoenaed and took possession from a computer repair store in Delaware on Dec. 9, 2019. With the resources at their disposal, the FBI could
Twitter had become quite the popular landing spot for former Bureau employees, but one employee in particular stands out: James Baker, an FBI counsel during the “Russian collusion” hoax investigation that plagued the Trump administration. The very same guy who approved the falsely altered Carter Page FISA warrant was caught filtering the information being meted to journalists Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Shellenberger. He’s the primary focus of my rage this morning.

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Just imagine for a moment that Donald Trump, Jr. (or Eric) sat on the board of directors for a foreign company and “earned” millions of dollars for literally doing nothing.

Why imagine anything, why not just look into the diplomatic visit to China where Both Trump and Ivanka came home with several million dollars worth of personal trade marks and nobody said anything.

No need at all for all the BS you typed.

Oh, I know. Just imagine for a second that Sleepy Joe gave Hunter the funds for Operation Warp Speed. Or sent him to Saudi Arabia with an open checkbook. Or had him in the Oval Office, spruiking Goya Beans on Instagram.

Imagine Hunter being appointed a senior presidential advisor with an office in the West Wing. Imagine him caught lying on his security clearance over 20 times, having his clearance revoked, only to be overturned on his dad's orders.

Imagine his private business being raised at the highest levels as a national security risk, with foreign agents offering him cheap loans to get in with the White House. Or having breakfast every morning at his dad's Washington hotel, where foreign agents would sidle up to him at the buffet, spruiking deals, before he'd hop off to the White House to have a quiet word with his dad, all hush hush and off the record.

You can't?

No, me neither. What sort of fool would dream up a scenario like that?

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Re: NYT admits Hunter Biden Laptop is legit
Reply #524 - Dec 24^th, 2022 at 10:29pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 21^st, 2022 at 11:02pm:

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1. TWITTER FILES: PART 7

The FBI & the Hunter Biden Laptop

How the FBI & intelligence community discredited factual information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings both after and *before* The New York Post revealed the contents of his laptop on October 14, 2020

https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1604871630613753856

Interesting read on FBI instructing Twitter to censor anything on Hunter Biden.

Would this have come out if Elon didn't buy Twitter?

The FBI don't know what they did with Hunters laptop, how convenient. We have seen the receipt for it we know they have it.
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Where is Hunter Biden’s Laptop?

The FBI has no clue!!

https://twitter.com/Pismo_B/status/1604890508865593344

The FBI is the American version of Inspector Clouseau!

Grin

Highly unlikely.

Breitbart News politics editor Emma-Jo Morris wrote:

Journalist Michael Shellenberger reported, based on documents he obtained from Elon Musk, that federal agents “discredited factual information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings both after and *before* The New York Post revealed the contents of his laptop on October 14, 2020″ — working with top management at Twitter to censor and disparage the Post‘s reporting on evidence of now-President Joe Biden’s personal business involvement with corrupt and adversarial regimes in Europe and Asia, in the run-up to the 2020 election.

Shellenberger revealed that there was “an organized effort by representatives of the intelligence community (IC), aimed at senior executives at news and social media companies,” to smear factual and accurate stories based on a hard drive belonging to Hunter Biden, which the FBI had in its possession almost a year before the Post’s reporting and knew was authentic.

Shellenberger details how agents outside the company worked to get Twitter management, many of whom were former agents themselves, to embrace the narrative that documents showing the Biden family earning tens of million dollars from Eastern European oligarchs and the Chinese Communist Party were part of a “Russian ‘hack and leak’ operation,” and then censor reporting on those documents on that premise. The narrative would then also be adopted by virtually all of legacy media in the lead up to voting day of 2020, and used to buttress their decision not to report on the material.

Shellenberger writes that “during all of 2020, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies repeatedly primed Yoel Roth to dismiss reports of Hunter Biden’s laptop as a Russian ‘hack and leak’ operation,” referring to the Head of Trust and Safety and one of Twitter’s chief censors. Despite the fact that the FBI had the Biden scion’s laptop since December, 2019, and amid Roth allegedly pushing back that “Twitter executives *repeatedly* reported very little Russian activity” on the platform.

https://michaelsavage.com/twitter-files-fbi-paid-company-3-4-million-in-tax-doll...

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