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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Meet OzPol's latest Conspiracy Nutter Reply #60 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:39am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:38am: AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:36am: Larry has a lady boner for John Smith. WTF is a lady boner??? This I have to hear 😂🤣😆 In your case Larry, you probably just have a boner.
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Reply #61 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:39am

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:58pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 4:49pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:25pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 10:31am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 10:26am:

I have asparagus and avocado for my meals or with my sandwiches. Both have brought my health into check on both accounts.

Asparagus and avocado has healed you then???

😂🤣😆

It has made a more impactful help in remedying high cholesterol than any other foods I have consumed.

That may be so but what about the impact of these foods on your stool stats?

Pssst ....are you now slowly discovering the strange link that this topic (on Groggy's Conspiracy Nutter SHYTE) has with Drunk's topic on his SHYTE Stats? Undecided

It is a matter of me eating avocado, kiwi fruit, a bowl of high fibre cereal, or chia seeds with diluted grapefruit juice to get my bowels going. Otherwise, I have to feel very hungry for a couple hours and then have a decent meal before I am moving fully. Two nights worth of scotch and colas have just backed up my number 2s.

Look if you're ever looking for somewhere to shyte .... this is the right sub forum for that. Carefully aim at the shyte heads posting around me ok? Ta!

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Reply #62 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am

Greggory is correct in what he is saying.

High Cholesterol can cause a build-up blocking blood flow, if the heart is clear then the treatment will have no impact on the heart as there is no risk until there is a build up. May need a 12 month test or something.

However the same cholesterol LDL deposits can block other blood flow paths like to the brain causing a stroke or to the limbs - deep vein thrombosis etc. While the heart being clear infers the flow may be good overall but this assumption is a 50/50 at best.

Not sure if there are tests for this ?

It may however be enough to allow treatment of the cholesterol through diet exercise and weight loss.

See what the Dr has to say but Greggory is correct in what he said though there do seem to be other considerations.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 75089 Gender:	Re: Meet OzPol's latest Conspiracy Nutter Reply #63 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 10:01am AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:36am: Larry has a lady boner for John Smith. lucky me ehhh!
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Meet OzPol's latest Conspiracy Nutter Reply #64 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 11:45am John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 10:01am: AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:36am: Larry has a lady boner for John Smith. lucky me ehhh! Larry's nickname for you John is Brock Sizzlemeat
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Reply #65 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:14pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Greggory is correct in what he is saying.

High Cholesterol can cause a build-up blocking blood flow, if the heart is clear then the treatment will have no impact on the heart as there is no risk until there is a build up. May need a 12 month test or something.

However the same cholesterol LDL deposits can block other blood flow paths like to the brain causing a stroke or to the limbs - deep vein thrombosis etc. While the heart being clear infers the flow may be good overall but this assumption is a 50/50 at best.

Not sure if there are tests for this ?

It may however be enough to allow treatment of the cholesterol through diet exercise and weight loss.

See what the Dr has to say but Greggory is correct in what he said though there do seem to be other considerations.

Your long winded post essentially proved that Groggy isn't right.

Thanks for that. Because Groggy is a cyber multi junkie POS who thinks HIS Googling trumps qualified medical practitioner advice.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Meet OzPol's latest Conspiracy Nutter Reply #66 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:17pm AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 11:45am: John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 10:01am: AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:36am: Larry has a lady boner for John Smith. lucky me ehhh! Larry's nickname for you John is Brock Sizzlemeat AiA - get a room with your bitch Frodo. You know you want to 😂🤣😆
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Reply #67 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:29pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Greggory is correct in what he is saying.

High Cholesterol can cause a build-up blocking blood flow, if the heart is clear then the treatment will have no impact on the heart as there is no risk until there is a build up.

Indeed.

The most important thing to do is have a coronary calcium score test done (along with all the usual blood tests, etc).

“Coronary artery calcium definitely deserves a place in the guidelines for use,” he said. “I think there has been a significant amount of evidence that shows a coronary calcium score improves risk prediction of who is going to have events better than any other biomarker or test . . . . It can tell you who might have lower risk than you previously thought or who might be at higher risk than you thought. When compared with any other test that we have, it has a better ability to accurately predict those events.”

Statins Provide No Clinical Benefit When Coronary Calcium Is Zero, Study Shows

In the new study, which was published online October 31, 2018, ahead of print in the Journal of American College of Cardiology, researchers conducted a retrospective analysis of 13,644 patients who underwent coronary artery calcium (CAC) screening between 2002 and 2009 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center to determine the effects of statins on cardiovascular events. Overall, patients had a low burden of risk factors for atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) and more than two-thirds had no detectable CAC. Of those included in the analysis, 6,886 were treated with a statin, with nearly half of these patients prescribed the lipid-lowering therapy in the 6 months before the CAC test. Two-thirds of patients were treated with a moderate-intensity statin and 19.3% received a high-intensity statin. The median follow-up was 9.4 years.

In an analysis comparing patients positive or negative for coronary calcium (any amount greater than zero), patients with detectable CAC prescribed a statin had a 24% lower relative risk of MI, stroke, or cardiovascular death when compared with those with evidence of CAC not treated with a statin (adjusted subhazard ratio 0.76; 95% CI 0.60-0.95). In contrast, among patients with no evidence of calcification (CAC score = 0), there was no difference in the risk of major cardiovascular events among those treated with a statin compared with those not treated with a statin.

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Reply #68 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 9:37am:

No need to try and hide this incredible news 😂😆🤣

Yep Groggy has finally come clean.

He doesn't follow medical advice nor does he listen or take medications as prescribed by fully qualified medical practitioners.

Instead ....he relies on GOOGLE 😂🤣😆

Here ....read it for yourself!

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 25^th, 2022 at 11:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 25^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

When someone's blood test shows them to have a high cholesterol level, their doctor (usually) immediately prescribes them statins.

That's crazy.

They should first give the patient a referral to have a coronary calcium score test done.

If their score is low - usually under 100 - statins are often quite useless.

I have high blood pressure, and my doctor immediately prescribed statins.

I told her to stick them up her arse.

Instead, I went and had my coronary calcium score test done and my score is zero.

Someone in their 50s with a score of zero and no other heart risk factors doesn't needs to be on statins.

Here, educate yourself a bit: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/heart-scan/about/pac-20384686#:~:tex...

UnSub: if your GP has prescribed statins, ask them for a coronary calcium heart score test before you go down that path - they are the most prescribed drug in the world and in many cases are completely useless.

SH1t a brick Groggy 🥴 You've just admitted that you don't like doctors or the medications they prescribe. And what's more you believe you know better than they do. Because you GOOGLE some US site instead 😳

I might bookmark this particular page too

😂🤣😆

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Reply #69 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:53pm

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Reply #70 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26^th, 2022 at 3:10pm:

Greggy's free medical advice:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648166789/32#32

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Greggy,
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Is English your first language?

At no stage have I ever suggested he take statins - I wouldn't take them if you paid me, so there's no way I would tell anyone else to take them.

And, I didn't tell him to take calcium either ...

FFS, you really are the thickest, most ignorant and poorly-educated person I have ever encountered in my entire life.

When someone's blood test shows them to have a high cholesterol level, their doctor (usually) immediately prescribes them statins.

That's crazy.

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Reply #71 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 4:34pm

The most important thing to do is have a coronary calcium score test done (along with all the usual blood tests, etc).

“Coronary artery calcium definitely deserves a place in the guidelines for use,” he said. “I think there has been a significant amount of evidence that shows a coronary calcium score improves risk prediction of who is going to have events better than any other biomarker or test . . . . It can tell you who might have lower risk than you previously thought or who might be at higher risk than you thought. When compared with any other test that we have, it has a better ability to accurately predict those events.”

Statins Provide No Clinical Benefit When Coronary Calcium Is Zero, Study Shows

In the new study, which was published online October 31, 2018, ahead of print in the Journal of American College of Cardiology, researchers conducted a retrospective analysis of 13,644 patients who underwent coronary artery calcium (CAC) screening between 2002 and 2009 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center to determine the effects of statins on cardiovascular events. Overall, patients had a low burden of risk factors for atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) and more than two-thirds had no detectable CAC. Of those included in the analysis, 6,886 were treated with a statin, with nearly half of these patients prescribed the lipid-lowering therapy in the 6 months before the CAC test. Two-thirds of patients were treated with a moderate-intensity statin and 19.3% received a high-intensity statin. The median follow-up was 9.4 years.

In an analysis comparing patients positive or negative for coronary calcium (any amount greater than zero), patients with detectable CAC prescribed a statin had a 24% lower relative risk of MI, stroke, or cardiovascular death when compared with those with evidence of CAC not treated with a statin (adjusted subhazard ratio 0.76; 95% CI 0.60-0.95). In contrast, among patients with no evidence of calcification (CAC score = 0), there was no difference in the risk of major cardiovascular events among those treated with a statin compared with those not treated with a statin.

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Reply #72 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 6:16pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Greggory is correct in what he is saying.

High Cholesterol can cause a build-up blocking blood flow, if the heart is clear then the treatment will have no impact on the heart as there is no risk until there is a build up. May need a 12 month test or something.

However the same cholesterol LDL deposits can block other blood flow paths like to the brain causing a stroke or to the limbs - deep vein thrombosis etc. While the heart being clear infers the flow may be good overall but this assumption is a 50/50 at best.

Not sure if there are tests for this ?

It may however be enough to allow treatment of the cholesterol through diet exercise and weight loss.

See what the Dr has to say but Greggory is correct in what he said though there do seem to be other considerations.

Your long winded post essentially proved that Groggy isn't right.

Thanks for that. Because Groggy is a cyber multi junkie POS who thinks HIS Googling trumps qualified medical practitioner advice.

Quote:

who thinks HIS Googling trumps qualified medical practitioner advice.

No he isn't a conservative.

What he actually said was 100% correct.

Its not like recommending cow medicine to treat people with covid, drinking industrial cleaner for instance or shining a bright light up your arse.

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Reply #73 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 7:17pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:17pm:

AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 11:45am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 10:01am:

AiA wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:36am:

Larry has a lady boner for John Smith.

lucky me ehhh! Shocked

Larry's nickname for you John is Brock Sizzlemeat

AiA - get a room with your bitch Frodo. You know you want to 😂🤣😆

Larry's facade of feminity lessens with almost every post recently. Soon she/he/it/they will post a dick pic.

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Reply #74 - Mar 27^th, 2022 at 7:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 6:16pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 3:14pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 27^th, 2022 at 9:58am:

Greggory is correct in what he is saying.

High Cholesterol can cause a build-up blocking blood flow, if the heart is clear then the treatment will have no impact on the heart as there is no risk until there is a build up. May need a 12 month test or something.

However the same cholesterol LDL deposits can block other blood flow paths like to the brain causing a stroke or to the limbs - deep vein thrombosis etc. While the heart being clear infers the flow may be good overall but this assumption is a 50/50 at best.

Not sure if there are tests for this ?

It may however be enough to allow treatment of the cholesterol through diet exercise and weight loss.

See what the Dr has to say but Greggory is correct in what he said though there do seem to be other considerations.

Your long winded post essentially proved that Groggy isn't right.

Thanks for that. Because Groggy is a cyber multi junkie POS who thinks HIS Googling trumps qualified medical practitioner advice.

Quote:

who thinks HIS Googling trumps qualified medical practitioner advice.

No he isn't a conservative.

What he actually said was 100% correct.

Its not like recommending cow medicine to treat people with covid, drinking industrial cleaner for instance or shining a bright light up your arse.

You're an idiot of course so naturally you post accordingly.

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