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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #330 - May 12^th, 2022 at 8:52am

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:30am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

Of course - you can't be anti mental illness.

Right now...Gordon, you and I are Anti "Kat" Googled BS. And we have every right to call IT out on ITs DELIBERATE IGNORANCE (read back to see why those 2 words are relevant lol).

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #331 - May 12^th, 2022 at 8:56am

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 7:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 4:16pm:

Your denial does not change the fact that current BS which you've googled and accepted like another multi troll here who lives life through GOOGLE alone ...actually took hold in the mid 1990's. By extreme leftist psychologists! YOU are displaying DELIBERATE ignorance!

You claimed that sex and gender was ALWAYS defined separately. Do you recall stating that? Read back... your words are still there. I even highlighted them for you. The FACTS though simply don't support your flawed googled view regarding these definitions.

Oh, dear!

I haven't stopped laughing yet.

Google?

Do you honestly think my facts come from Google?

They don't - but I suspect you didn't even look that far for info.

Otherwise you just might realise that I'm on far firmer ground on this than you are.

Your ridiculous and easily-disproven delusion that this is a leftist plot which began in the 1990s tells the world that
you're not dealing with facts, but right-wing ignorance and propaganda. And it makes you look like an idiot. Trans
people have been around since pre-historic times. No Right or Left about it, then or now.

Or maybe it's the fact that the left don't actively persecute like the Right does which has your panties in a knot?

Best quit now before you make yourself look like an even bigger fool. Or a TERF - which is just as bad.

Your waffle had SFA to do with the FACT that you stated that gender and sex were ALWAYS 2 distinct and separate concepts.

I've told you that YOUR Googled assertion is utter crap.

You then saw fit to go on some deflection driven dribble about something else. And I can understand why. It's because you have no real factual comeback.

Everything I posted is verifiable fact.

You've lost, and now you're simply trolling.

Go away.

1. I've called YOU out on the fact that YOU are waffling on and not addressing what's posted at you.

2. You don't own this topic or OzPol. You have no right or say in ordering others as to where they can/can't post. ESP when it's because your deliberate ignorant arse has been pwned!

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #332 - May 12^th, 2022 at 8:59am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:56am:

Everything I posted is verifiable fact.

You've lost, and now you're simply trolling.

Go away.

1. I've called YOU out on the fact that YOU are waffling on and not addressing what's posted at you.

2. You don't own this topic or OzPol. You have no right or say in ordering others as to where they can/can't post. ESP when it's because

your deliberate ignorant arse has been pwned!

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Except it hasn't. And certainly not by you.

Once again, everything I've posted is verifiable fact.

So why not either do so, or STFU?

Facts are funny that way - they don't care about your 'opinion'.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #333 - May 12^th, 2022 at 8:59am

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

People would get life banned from Twitter for calling this a man.

Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/12/ex-soldier-exposed-her-penis-and-used-wheelie-bin...

Did you read the story?

This person has always been a sex offender. Even BEFORE they transitioned.

The fact that they're also trans has NOTHING to do with it.

Did YOU read the story?

The Canadian human rights tribunal ACTUALLY went as far as hearing a case where a sex offender tried to force female beauticians into waxing HER scrotum. People lost their business over this due to trans activism gone mad.

You support this.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #334 - May 12^th, 2022 at 9:04am

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:59am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

People would get life banned from Twitter for calling this a man.

Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/12/ex-soldier-exposed-her-penis-and-used-wheelie-bin...

Did you read the story?

This person has always been a sex offender. Even BEFORE they transitioned.

The fact that they're also trans has NOTHING to do with it.

Did YOU read the story?

The Canadian human rights tribunal ACTUALLY went as far as hearing a case where a sex offender tried to force female beauticians into waxing HER scrotum. People lost their business over this due to trans activism gone mad.

You support this.

Don't move the goal-posts.

You know damned well that wasn't the link I was commenting upon.

As for the waxing - there ARE places who specialise in, or are accepting of, trans people. Why she didn't
just go to one of them, I don't know. Maybe that's a question you should be asking HER. BTW, I don't see
where she's an actual sex offender - only the accusation of the TERF who wrote the article.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #335 - May 12^th, 2022 at 9:13am

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:59am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

People would get life banned from Twitter for calling this a man.

Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/12/ex-soldier-exposed-her-penis-and-used-wheelie-bin...

Did you read the story?

This person has always been a sex offender. Even BEFORE they transitioned.

The fact that they're also trans has NOTHING to do with it.

Did YOU read the story?

The Canadian human rights tribunal ACTUALLY went as far as hearing a case where a sex offender tried to force female beauticians into waxing HER scrotum. People lost their business over this due to trans activism gone mad.

You support this.

Kat supports anything IT googles or imagines while being stoned. That's why nothing IT has posted in this topic makes sense. Facts are to be denied and people who present them are to go away. That's ITS MO.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #336 - May 12^th, 2022 at 9:15am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 9:13am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:59am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

People would get life banned from Twitter for calling this a man.

Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/12/ex-soldier-exposed-her-penis-and-used-wheelie-bin...

Did you read the story?

This person has always been a sex offender. Even BEFORE they transitioned.

The fact that they're also trans has NOTHING to do with it.

Did YOU read the story?

The Canadian human rights tribunal ACTUALLY went as far as hearing a case where a sex offender tried to force female beauticians into waxing HER scrotum. People lost their business over this due to trans activism gone mad.

You support this.

Kat supports anything IT googles or imagines while being stoned. That's why nothing IT has posted in this topic makes sense. Facts are to be denied and people who present them are to go away. That's ITS MO.

You are absolutely vile.

Such wanton pig-ignorance.

Far cough.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #337 - May 12^th, 2022 at 9:16am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:56am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:49am:

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 7:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 4:16pm:

Your denial does not change the fact that current BS which you've googled and accepted like another multi troll here who lives life through GOOGLE alone ...actually took hold in the mid 1990's. By extreme leftist psychologists! YOU are displaying DELIBERATE ignorance!

You claimed that sex and gender was ALWAYS defined separately. Do you recall stating that? Read back... your words are still there. I even highlighted them for you. The FACTS though simply don't support your flawed googled view regarding these definitions.

Oh, dear!

I haven't stopped laughing yet.

Google?

Do you honestly think my facts come from Google?

They don't - but I suspect you didn't even look that far for info.

Otherwise you just might realise that I'm on far firmer ground on this than you are.

Your ridiculous and easily-disproven delusion that this is a leftist plot which began in the 1990s tells the world that
you're not dealing with facts, but right-wing ignorance and propaganda. And it makes you look like an idiot. Trans
people have been around since pre-historic times. No Right or Left about it, then or now.

Or maybe it's the fact that the left don't actively persecute like the Right does which has your panties in a knot?

Best quit now before you make yourself look like an even bigger fool. Or a TERF - which is just as bad.

Your waffle had SFA to do with the FACT that you stated that gender and sex were ALWAYS 2 distinct and separate concepts.

I've told you that YOUR Googled assertion is utter crap.

You then saw fit to go on some deflection driven dribble about something else. And I can understand why. It's because you have no real factual comeback.

Everything I posted is verifiable fact.

You've lost, and now you're simply trolling.

Go away.

1. I've called YOU out on the fact that YOU are waffling on and not addressing what's posted at you.

2. You don't own this topic or OzPol. You have no right or say in ordering others as to where they can/can't post. ESP when it's because your deliberate ignorant arse has been pwned!

READ THE ABOVE 2 POINTS SLOWLY. LET'S SEE IF THAT STONED MIND CAN PROCESS WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN. SO FAR...YOU'VE PROVEN YOU CANNOT DO THIS. AT ALL.

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Reply #339 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:16am

Kat wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 8:54am:

Gnads wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 7:29am:

What you seem to be missing is that that's more than likely what would happen if they hadn't decided along with the support of the whole LGBITQ community to push issues like playing in womens sports,
using womens toilets and if criminal wanting to be placed in womens prisons
.

They want to dress as women, identify as women and have their genitals removed(not all do though) ....fine but leave it at that.

None of the former bs I mentioned and add to that the nonsense from trans men (with fully functioning female reproduction systems) saying they are "men who give birth" to children.

They will always be what they were at birth despite hormones & surgeries to make out they are the opposite.

This bloke is in a womens prison & he sure is acting & functioning like a man. Grin

https://eurweb.com/2022/04/17/trans-prisoner-who-impregnated-inmate-is-serving-3...

Yes, a-hole - and they get RAPED and MURDERED by bigoted ignorant 'men' simply for going to the toilet.

Or repeatedly raped and possibly killed in men's prisons.

You are advocating for trans women to be assaulted and raped. How utterly vile.

Don't try switching the issue

despite your feigned outrage

they are not women and they do not belong in womens sport, toilets or prisons.

It's just bs that they get "raped & murdered" for going to the toilet...

you bloody drama queen .... you're just as vile.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #340 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:21am

Kat wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 8:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2022 at 11:38pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10^th, 2022 at 11:31pm:

Essentially 'trannies' are a great big burger nothing, given that they are so few and far between that nobody actually GAF about their delusions of persecution,etc.

It's all a media scam - apart from the simple reality that someone claiming to be a woman without legally certified proof can bash women competitors into the ground....

Is that OK with you? Because it's not OK with me!

Do you know that the hormone treatment they have depletes the testosterone that builds male muscles. They lose their male strength, they do not really have the advantage that you think they do.

Rubbish ... they may lose some muscle but not all ....

they do not lose their bone density ....

and they have a distinct advantage.

Open your eyes. the evidence is there.

Yes, they do.

Scientific fact.

Cut the bullshyt.

No they pharken don't ... in fact taking estrogen improves bone density when they're transitioning. Grin

So your theory is wrong as I said it was.

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Transgender (trans) women have been frequently observed to have low bone density prior to initiation of gender-affirming hormone therapy, while trans men generally do not. With pharmacologic estrogen, many studies show improving bone density in trans women.2 July 2019

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6709704/#:~:text=Transgender%20(tra...

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #341 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:30am

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 7:42am:

Frank wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 10:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 9:38pm:

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 4:13pm:

Kat, why is saying you're attracted to chicks with dicks disgusting?

Are you transphobic?

People can support the right for other people to be who they are without being attracted to them ?

Obviously someone is attracted to them though.

I don't see why it matters to anyone why not just leave them alone to live their life as they wish.

They don't leave you alone.
They hate out and vilify women who say a bloke with a prick is not a woman. They will hound any woman who says that.

Now fcck off, ya stupid, ignorant duckwit.

You really haven't a clue, do you?

Lots of vitriol and bullshyt - no facts at all.

Trans people don't 'hound' anyone - they GET hounded by TERFS and ignorant, 'threatened' men.

Wassamatter - afraid YOU'LL turn trans if one gets too close to you?

You haven't evidenced 1 of your facts ... not 1.

And that's just typical overdramatic nonsense.

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Reply #342 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:35am

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:09am:

Kat supports and is probably sexually attracted to this

Yaniv has filed 16 different complaints against estheticians in the past year. Yaniv argues that, as a transgender woman, being denied services on account of her gender identity was discriminatory. As “Jessica,” Yaniv explained on Twitter:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/canadas-ball-waxing-horror-show-peak-tran...

So in other words, you have nothing, so it's time to play the man and not the ball?

Yeah, I thought so.

Nah ... he's got you by the balls .. if you have any.

That link flies in the face of your nonsense notion that transwomen just want to go about living their lives & they do not affect the lives of others.

It's yet another example of the BS coming from transgenders & the supporters from the LGBITQ activists and the likes of you.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #343 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:38am

Gnads wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 11:16am:

Kat wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 8:54am:

Gnads wrote on May 11^th, 2022 at 7:29am:

What you seem to be missing is that that's more than likely what would happen if they hadn't decided along with the support of the whole LGBITQ community to push issues like playing in womens sports,
using womens toilets and if criminal wanting to be placed in womens prisons
.

They want to dress as women, identify as women and have their genitals removed(not all do though) ....fine but leave it at that.

None of the former bs I mentioned and add to that the nonsense from trans men (with fully functioning female reproduction systems) saying they are "men who give birth" to children.

They will always be what they were at birth despite hormones & surgeries to make out they are the opposite.

This bloke is in a womens prison & he sure is acting & functioning like a man. Grin

https://eurweb.com/2022/04/17/trans-prisoner-who-impregnated-inmate-is-serving-3...

Yes, a-hole - and they get RAPED and MURDERED by bigoted ignorant 'men' simply for going to the toilet.

Or repeatedly raped and possibly killed in men's prisons.

You are advocating for trans women to be assaulted and raped. How utterly vile.

Don't try switching the issue

despite your feigned outrage

they are not women and they do not belong in womens sport, toilets or prisons.

It's just bs that they get "raped & murdered" for going to the toilet...

you bloody drama queen .... you're just as vile.

" they get RAPED and MURDERED by bigoted ignorant 'men' simply for going to the toilet.

Or repeatedly raped and possibly killed in men's prisons."

When was the last time that happened? Frankly, I've never heard of it, and if they are in prison with hardened criminals there must be a reason for it.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #344 - May 12^th, 2022 at 11:46am

Kat wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:50am:

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

For the record, I'm not anti trans, Im anti trans activists who promulgate crap like this.

People would get life banned from Twitter for calling this a man.

Ex-soldier exposed her penis and used wheelie bin as sex toy in public

https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/12/ex-soldier-exposed-her-penis-and-used-wheelie-bin...

Did you read the story?

This person has always been a sex offender. Even BEFORE they transitioned.

The fact that they're also trans has NOTHING to do with it.

Quote:

Speaking directly to her, the judge said: ‘You are entitled to appropriate respect and courtesy and assistance in facing the challenges ahead of you but that respect goes both ways. Other people living their lives are entitled to courtesy and respect.’

Thompson was convicted of committing a public nuisance by indecent exposure, exposing her penis to members of the public while performing a sex act upon herself and outraging public decency.

Yes it does .... as you say that what trans people were before has no bearing on what they choose to identify as & act as once they're trans women or trans men.

And it is yet another example of a trans person/woman( a pharkin ugly one at that) affecting other peoples lives.

"exposing her penis"? Grin

Do you see how bloody ridiculous that is?

I bet you don't. Roll Eyes

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