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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #376 - May 14^th, 2022 at 10:37pm

... in the beginning God created Adam, and after a while he noticed that Addie was having trouble with nocturnal emissions and such - a flaw in the design of the perfect being..... so God in his infinite wisdom created Eve... but failed to give her reason and perception, so that, before long, in conspiracy with the snake, Eve conned Adam at pussy point into stealing the apples of wisdom.....

... been downhill ever since..... but in the beginning God Created Adam and then Eve... not Adam and Steve ....... and certainly not Adam mix of incredibly stupid definitions of Adam/Eve ......

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #377 - May 15^th, 2022 at 8:13am

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:29pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

First you needed 'experts' to tell you that marriage has been misunderstood for millennia. Now you need 'experts in the field' to tell you that what a woman is has been similarly misunderstood. Next - pre-schoolers who cannot smoke or drink or vote can reliably determine that they are in fact trans-sexual and their mother is not a total fruitcake but a supportive, affirming birthing unit.

Follow 'the science', all you deplorable, know-nuffin' far-right white supremacists!!! Oh, yes.

Well - no.

It is a mental illness that should not be encouraged and treated as if it wasn't

.

It's not, and that's why it's not 'treated' as such.

At worst, it might be uncharitably described as 'eccentric'.

And no-one's even mentioned pre-schoolers until you did.

Shades of the old WW1 propaganda about Germans eating
babies, methinks - and with a similar level of truth to it.

Gender/sex dysphonia is a mental illness. If you are a boy and think you are a girl you are mentally ill and need help, NOT encouragement in your illness. If you are a girl - ditto.

It is an evil, deliberate program to push this crap. Mammals - humans - are born male and female. There is NO OTHER way for the species to exist. Transgender is the next stage of the gay marriage slippery slope. Next - underage sex transition and zoo-, tree-and whatever-philia - as long as it doesn't produce children and a future.

It is an anti-life death cult.

Truth 🎯

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #378 - May 15^th, 2022 at 9:33am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:29pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

First you needed 'experts' to tell you that marriage has been misunderstood for millennia. Now you need 'experts in the field' to tell you that what a woman is has been similarly misunderstood. Next - pre-schoolers who cannot smoke or drink or vote can reliably determine that they are in fact trans-sexual and their mother is not a total fruitcake but a supportive, affirming birthing unit.

Follow 'the science', all you deplorable, know-nuffin' far-right white supremacists!!! Oh, yes.

Well - no.

It is a mental illness that should not be encouraged and treated as if it wasn't

.

It's not, and that's why it's not 'treated' as such.

At worst, it might be uncharitably described as 'eccentric'.

And no-one's even mentioned pre-schoolers until you did.

Shades of the old WW1 propaganda about Germans eating
babies, methinks - and with a similar level of truth to it.

Gender/sex dysphonia is a mental illness. If you are a boy and think you are a girl you are mentally ill and need help, NOT encouragement in your illness. If you are a girl - ditto.

It is an evil, deliberate program to push this crap. Mammals - humans - are born male and female. There is NO OTHER way for the species to exist. Transgender is the next stage of the gay marriage slippery slope. Next - underage sex transition and zoo-, tree-and whatever-philia - as long as it doesn't produce children and a future.

It is an anti-life death cult.

Truth 🎯

No - absolute garbage.

Why are you so deliberately pig-ignorant?

The big difference between you and I, is that I KNOW what I'm talking about here.

You, on the other hand, do not.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Define the word “woman.” Reply #379 - May 15^th, 2022 at 9:41am Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:18pm: Soo... psychological fvkkeduppery has many permutations. And you endorse every one of them. There is no mental illness, there is only misunderstanding by cruel society. And you live alone with cats and cellulite ... A cruel world indeed. *Er - no.*
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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #381 - May 15^th, 2022 at 3:27pm

Don’t trust the myths of biology
Titania McGrath
May 2022

Scientists and intellectuals have long struggled to determine what a “woman” might be. This mysterious concept has evaded the sharpest of minds through human history. It is very much the holy grail of metaphysics, a will-o’-the-wisp dancing on the ever-receding horizon of knowledge.

Anyone who asks the question “what is a woman?” is thereby revealing that they have the intelligence of your average garden slug. This is why we shouldn’t trust these so-called “archaeologists” who claim to be able to determine whether those ancient skeletons they’ve uncovered are “male” or “female”. This is pure pseudo-science. Next they’ll be telling us they can work out their pronouns by measuring the femurs.

Let me settle this matter once and for all. A woman is anyone who says she is a woman. A woman is a feeling, a shimmering nimbus of possibility, an echo of distant dreams reverberating gingerly through a winter’s gloaming. She is a mewling constellation, a bagful of semi-felched pixies, the enchanted stardust that pirouettes luminously on the spindle of time.

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with tits.
https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2022/dont-trust-the-myths-of-biology/

Sorted. Tsk, tsk, Tongue

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #382 - May 15^th, 2022 at 5:46pm

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:46pm:

Gnads wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Gnads wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having
sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

Yep you're definitely on a spectrum. Roll Eyes

Repeating the same old LGBITQ Alphabet dogma.

No - just posting a few facts.

You know - those awkward things that don't really care about opinions.

Your woke facts yeah? Grin

No - just regular, garden-variety facts.

All easily verifiable.

Well don't just make another claim & not follow through.

Verify ... you silly old Queen.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #383 - May 15^th, 2022 at 5:53pm

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 9:33am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:29pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

First you needed 'experts' to tell you that marriage has been misunderstood for millennia. Now you need 'experts in the field' to tell you that what a woman is has been similarly misunderstood. Next - pre-schoolers who cannot smoke or drink or vote can reliably determine that they are in fact trans-sexual and their mother is not a total fruitcake but a supportive, affirming birthing unit.

Follow 'the science', all you deplorable, know-nuffin' far-right white supremacists!!! Oh, yes.

Well - no.

It is a mental illness that should not be encouraged and treated as if it wasn't

.

It's not, and that's why it's not 'treated' as such.

At worst, it might be uncharitably described as 'eccentric'.

And no-one's even mentioned pre-schoolers until you did.

Shades of the old WW1 propaganda about Germans eating
babies, methinks - and with a similar level of truth to it.

Gender/sex dysphonia is a mental illness. If you are a boy and think you are a girl you are mentally ill and need help, NOT encouragement in your illness. If you are a girl - ditto.

It is an evil, deliberate program to push this crap. Mammals - humans - are born male and female. There is NO OTHER way for the species to exist. Transgender is the next stage of the gay marriage slippery slope. Next - underage sex transition and zoo-, tree-and whatever-philia - as long as it doesn't produce children and a future.

It is an anti-life death cult.

Truth 🎯

No - absolute garbage.

Why are you so deliberately pig-ignorant?

The big difference between you and I, is that I KNOW what I'm talking about here.

You, on the other hand, do not.

In your mind you may ... that being factual is very much debatable.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #384 - May 15^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Soo... psychological fvkkeduppery has many permutations. And you endorse every one of them. There is no mental illness, there is only misunderstanding by cruel society.

And

you live alone with cats and cellulite

... A cruel world indeed.

Er - no.

Tits?

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #385 - May 15^th, 2022 at 6:34pm

Gnads wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 9:33am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:29pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

First you needed 'experts' to tell you that marriage has been misunderstood for millennia. Now you need 'experts in the field' to tell you that what a woman is has been similarly misunderstood. Next - pre-schoolers who cannot smoke or drink or vote can reliably determine that they are in fact trans-sexual and their mother is not a total fruitcake but a supportive, affirming birthing unit.

Follow 'the science', all you deplorable, know-nuffin' far-right white supremacists!!! Oh, yes.

Well - no.

It is a mental illness that should not be encouraged and treated as if it wasn't

.

It's not, and that's why it's not 'treated' as such.

At worst, it might be uncharitably described as 'eccentric'.

And no-one's even mentioned pre-schoolers until you did.

Shades of the old WW1 propaganda about Germans eating
babies, methinks - and with a similar level of truth to it.

Gender/sex dysphonia is a mental illness. If you are a boy and think you are a girl you are mentally ill and need help, NOT encouragement in your illness. If you are a girl - ditto.

It is an evil, deliberate program to push this crap. Mammals - humans - are born male and female. There is NO OTHER way for the species to exist. Transgender is the next stage of the gay marriage slippery slope. Next - underage sex transition and zoo-, tree-and whatever-philia - as long as it doesn't produce children and a future.

It is an anti-life death cult.

Truth 🎯

No - absolute garbage.

Why are you so deliberately pig-ignorant?

The big difference between you and I, is that I KNOW what I'm talking about here.

You, on the other hand, do not.

In your mind you may ... that being factual is very much debatable.

Not really debatable, actually - because they ARE facts.

All verifiable - verify them.

If I can do the research, you can.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #386 - May 16^th, 2022 at 7:14am

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 6:34pm:

Gnads wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 9:33am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:29pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:51pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 6:01pm:

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

First you needed 'experts' to tell you that marriage has been misunderstood for millennia. Now you need 'experts in the field' to tell you that what a woman is has been similarly misunderstood. Next - pre-schoolers who cannot smoke or drink or vote can reliably determine that they are in fact trans-sexual and their mother is not a total fruitcake but a supportive, affirming birthing unit.

Follow 'the science', all you deplorable, know-nuffin' far-right white supremacists!!! Oh, yes.

Well - no.

It is a mental illness that should not be encouraged and treated as if it wasn't

.

It's not, and that's why it's not 'treated' as such.

At worst, it might be uncharitably described as 'eccentric'.

And no-one's even mentioned pre-schoolers until you did.

Shades of the old WW1 propaganda about Germans eating
babies, methinks - and with a similar level of truth to it.

Gender/sex dysphonia is a mental illness. If you are a boy and think you are a girl you are mentally ill and need help, NOT encouragement in your illness. If you are a girl - ditto.

It is an evil, deliberate program to push this crap. Mammals - humans - are born male and female. There is NO OTHER way for the species to exist. Transgender is the next stage of the gay marriage slippery slope. Next - underage sex transition and zoo-, tree-and whatever-philia - as long as it doesn't produce children and a future.

It is an anti-life death cult.

Truth 🎯

No - absolute garbage.

Why are you so deliberately pig-ignorant?

The big difference between you and I, is that I KNOW what I'm talking about here.

You, on the other hand, do not.

In your mind you may ... that being factual is very much debatable.

Not really debatable, actually - because they ARE facts.

All verifiable - verify them.

If I can do the research, you can.

You're making the claims - the onus is on you.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #388 - May 16^th, 2022 at 9:38am

Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:

Kat wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 9:41am:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 9:18pm:

Soo... psychological fvkkeduppery has many permutations. And you endorse every one of them. There is no mental illness, there is only misunderstanding by cruel society.

And

you live alone with cats and cellulite

... A cruel world indeed.

Er - no.

Tits?

Pardon?

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #389 - May 16^th, 2022 at 9:58am

Kat wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 1:41pm:

For those who think there are only two genders...

There are NOT.

There are only two SEXES. Gender, however, is a spectrum, a bit like the autism spectrum - and much of it is related to
societal expectations and influences. It ranges from the macho 'alpha male' stereotype at one end through to the 'helpless
dumb blonde' stereotype at the other end.

In-between are 'beta' and 'effeminate' males, crossdressers, 'tomboy' girls and women, asexual and non-binary people etc.

It is not required to start adding and/or removing body parts in order to be transgender. Some do, but many do not.

Gender is NOT tied rigidly to your sexuality either. One can be a trans woman but abhor the thought of sex with a male
while another may be a trans man but not want to have sex with women. Many find it difficult or impossible to form any
kind of meaningful relationships at all because of this. Trans women, especially, risk actual physical harm from men who
find their masculinity threatened should they find the trans girl attractive or if they think they're being 'conned into having
sex with a bloke'.

The basic problem is that you people see gender as being like sex, as a light switch with MALE on one side and FEMALE on
the other, where-as gender is more like a light switch with a dimmer control, and you can be ANYWHERE between the two
poles.

This is not 'just my opinion' - it's that of most experts in the field. So if you want to slag of at anyone - slag them, not me.

No - this IS just your opinion, and a very silly, muddled one it is: there are not enough letters in the alphabet to cover all the genders because EVERYONE is a different gender since we are not identical and gender is "how you feel" on the dimmer spectrum.

This is patently ridiculous. How many different toilets do we need if it has nothing to do with male or female? It is an absurdity to say things like "her penis" or "his pregnancy" and the rest of the cockamaimie nonsense on the dimmer scale.

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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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