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Reply #435 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:41am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:32am:

Frank wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

So it's a mental illness (gender) that makes you mutilate your body (sex).

I can't decide a lump is cancer without medical science defining it as so. Medical science says that being trans is not a mental illness. Your views are irrelevant

So are yours.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Define the word “woman.” Reply #437 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am: So are yours. All that is relevant about my statements on this is that i am aligning with medical science, yes
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29033 Gender:	Re: Define the word “woman.” Reply #438 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am: Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am: So are yours. All that is relevant about my statements on this is that i am aligning with medical science, yes So you say
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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #439 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:50am

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am:

So are yours.

All that is relevant about my statements on this is that i am aligning with medical science, yes

So you say

So THEY say. Being trans is NOT in DSM5. It's not a mental illness. This is not a vague thing

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #440 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:54am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:32am:

Frank wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

So it's a mental illness (gender) that makes you mutilate your body (sex).

I can't decide a lump is cancer without medical science defining it as so. Medical science says that being trans is not a mental illness. Your views are irrelevant

Cancer is not in your mind, dozy cockwomble. You are jumping around confusedly, employing idiotic analogies and trying to fight your way out of your ridiculous confusion, self- imposed by your even more ridiculous desire to be seen not as you are but as someone who actually understands what he is saying. It's not working except as a laughable/sad spectacle.

Being trans IS dysphoria, obviously, it is in the DSM 5. Cancer isn't.
https://psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphor
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Define the word “woman.” Reply #441 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:56am Frank wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:54am: Being trans IS dysphoria, obviously, it is in the DSM 5. Cancer isn't. https://psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphor ia "Some people who are transgender will experience “gender dysphoria,” " Did you read your link, dumbass?
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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #442 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:06am

I'm so secure in my own masculinity that I can mix with gays and come away unscathed..... lesbians now - that's another matter if they are easy on the eye.... nothing chauvinist about me... there's nothing the beautiful ones could do to one another that I couldn't... well - I might draw the line at some things, but hell.... let's say they'd be happy... as for the thuglies - they've made their own bed....

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83070 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Define the word “woman.” Reply #443 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:07am Gender Hysteria sounds more the line.....
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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #444 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:07am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:50am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:42am:

So are yours.

All that is relevant about my statements on this is that i am aligning with medical science, yes

So you say

So THEY say. Being trans is NOT in DSM5. It's not a mental illness. This is not a vague thing

Yet that's where it came from & the now determination that it's not .... comes from the Psychiatry branch of medicine.

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“gender dysphoria,” which refers to psychological distress that results from an incongruence between one’s sex assigned at birth and one’s gender identity. Though gender dysphoria often begins in childhood, some people may not experience it until after puberty or much later.

https://psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphor...

Sounds like a head issue to me ...... and any medical intervention in going through puberty is based on that.

They should be going through puberty & have all the relevant counselling up to the time when they are adults & then want to decide what medical procedures they want to undertake.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #446 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:08am

Frank wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 10:30am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 8:11am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 11:07pm:

What are you trying to differentiate here, Future?

Your sex is in your pants. Your gender is in your brain. Your sex is how you piss and bugger. Your gender is what you KNOW you are.

So it's a mental illness (gender) that makes you mutilate your body (sex).

You're just not getting it, are you?

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #447 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:09am

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

They should be going through puberty & have all the relevant counselling up to the time when they are adults & then want to decide what medical procedures they want to undertake.

I reiterate that denying them medicine causes gender dysphoria. Puberty blockers are not a medical procedure. No medical procedures are done on kids, that's one reason blockers are used to buy time

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #448 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:13am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:09am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

They should be going through puberty & have all the relevant counselling up to the time when they are adults & then want to decide what medical procedures they want to undertake.

I reiterate that denying them medicine causes gender dysphoria. Puberty blockers are not a medical procedure. No medical procedures are done on kids, that's one reason blockers are used to buy time

Any medical treatment ... i.e. taking prescribed drugs

is a medical procedure.

And its given to stop kids having an adverse mental reaction to their body changing to something they don't want - again that that's a bad thing is in their head.

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Re: Define the word “woman.”
Reply #449 - Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:15am

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:13am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:09am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

They should be going through puberty & have all the relevant counselling up to the time when they are adults & then want to decide what medical procedures they want to undertake.

I reiterate that denying them medicine causes gender dysphoria. Puberty blockers are not a medical procedure. No medical procedures are done on kids, that's one reason blockers are used to buy time

Any medical treatment ... i.e. taking prescribed drugs

is a medical procedure.

And its given to stop kids having an adverse mental reaction to their body changing to something they don't want - again that that's a bad thing is in their head.

This is semantics. You're wrong but it does not matter. What matters is you can't argue against the substance of what I've said.

It's not given for that reason at all. Not giving it can cause that side effect, but it's not the reason it's given.

Are you saying protecting the mental health of kids is a bad idea?

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