Bobby. wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2022 at 4:37pm:



You know that the older you get the less you eat, right? It's not like they burn a lot of energy watching reruns off dads army.

My grandparents once they got past 70yrs of age ate very little. I recall my grandfather would often have have one quail for dinner with a forkfull of salad.  You get more meat with one chicken drumstick.

There is no chance that the aged care system is going to cope

The number of people over the age of 80 is set to quadruple in the next 15 years

And people no longer look after their health

They think it is perfectly acceptable to become fat
To sit on the couch and not exercise

It's almost impossible to go anywhere without being run over by some fatty on a scooter
And society is normalising obesity
To the point where calling someone fat will get you an instant ban on social media

If you quadruple the number of people needing nursing home care
Just threw population demographics
And then you throw in the vast majority of them being overweight
You are going to need a literal army of people to lift them on and off the bed in and out of the shower
No one will want to do it
The cost will be exorbitant

What I expect to happen is that the family home will have to be surrendered to the government
Upon entry to a nursing home
As this is the only way this unbelievable expense will be able to be met

And a very heavy person at home will also not be able to be looked after by their relatives

If people really wanted to do something to help with the aged care crisis they would work on their own health nutrition and physical fitness
Of course they won't
The rate of weight increase during the covid lockdowns in Australia doubled
We are getting fatter not fitter

Aged Care needs a LOT of money to fix. The Labor Government through Albo is making Australia BELIEVE THE LIE that they will do this.

The reality is this :

1. Labor is not only lying to Australians (believe you me that is a big red flag for me just there 🚩)

2. Labor does not know where the money it says it will throw at Aged Care will be coming from. (Another red flag 🚩 )

3. The money which Labor is pledging to throw into Aged Care is not going to achieve anything. It will not put a dent into the Aged care issues facing Australia.

4. And what gets me very angry 😠 is this : Labor must think Australians are all uneducated buffoons who don't have access to MSM. Well we are educated and yes we do quietly read AND TAKE NOTE of what we read. I guess my pain point is that when I chat to Labor supporters they either can't see or they don't want to believe/accept the brutal reality that their party is taking them down the garden path into la la land. And that's after they're shown left wing articles which hit hard at the lies which Labor thinks it is able to hoodwink gullible Australians with.

I personally don't enjoy seeing vulnerable people used and abused like this. The mind games being played by Labor are tantamount to toxic abuse.

The Liberal Party is no better.

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 9:30am:


If you chat to Labor supporters as you have above, where you simply make unfounded claims, they're not going to simply believe you as you've got no credibility so it's no wonder you have the experience you do.

Larry is only interested in getting attention, not in debating.

We can't discount the fact that we've got an election coming, it will be announced any second now, and at least on this subject, the two majors are putting forward their plans to work towards resolving the issues in the aged care sector.

As Scoot and others have alluded to, this can't be fixed overnight, it can't even be fixed in a single term.

Right off the starting blocks, the Libs are running the show for the last 9 years so the mess we're in now has their fingerprints all over it.

Is that enough to simply assume that Labor will do a better job?  No, not at all.

So first, since it's clear not many people haven't read even the summary of the findings from the Royal Commission into aged care, we should start there.

The full report can be found here, and the list of recommendations here, but below is a list of the main takeaways:

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That is a monumental task.  But more importantly, many of the above have been chipped away by the current Government in their most recent terms. 

There is no escaping that it will take money, and lots of it, to fix the problem.  It will take stronger regulation which ultimately means less profit for the private providers as they'll be held to greater scrutiny and accountability levels.

It would also involve working with Unions to help improve conditions for staff which ultimately means better outcomes for those in care.

So, better training for staff, higher staffing levels, better pay, more money spent on the facilities, and an overhaul to the system from a legislative point of view to be being rights-based for those in care.

Every single one of those points is counter to the traditional Liberal-Conservative ideology, and their track record on all of these points, even from expanding the low-skilled migration numbers to further push down wages and standard of care of their last few terms.

We can't look to Labor in what they've done from opposition over the last 9 years since they've had zero power during this time, but all we can do is look at their plan that was mentioned at a very upper level during the budget reply, which included them forcing every aged care facility to have a registered nurse on-site at all hours, hire more carers, set higher standards for meals and fully fund a boost for workers through an appeal to the Fair Work Commission to set higher wages. 

It's just a start, once the election has been called I look forward to their fully fleshed out policies (both sides) so we can see not only what steps they'll take, but their timelines and funding.

But so far the Liberal's record and fingerprints all over the current mess puts them at a disadvantage, even though the faithful will still claim Labor are the liars...

It's too early to put my support being either plan, but I know one is certainly closer to the RC recommendations than the other.

More regulation, higher wages, working with unions, an admission the private sector has failed, it doesn't sound very "Liberal" to me.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 10:55am:


I quite "like" this post of yours. For 2 main reasons :

1. You referred to a federal budget which was delivered SIX YEARS ago. 🚩 for me. You concentrated on money 💰 which is good because THAT is what interests me. And what really matters here anyway. 

(Just a heads up ... I smell desperation already given the time period that has elapsed since 2016 and that's a serious turn off for me).

2. You referred to a certain Royal Commission. But in very vague terms. 🚩 for me.

(Just a heads up ... you will need to read through the findings of that particular Royal Commission. Once you do that you might discover something quite embarrassing about LABOR and yes ... once again it ties back in with 1. Money 💰

I'll come back later to see what you've got.

Edit : If you sense that I'm marking your work ... I'm sorry but that's how I critique everything. And it's probably a residual "thang" from my days as a high school maths teacher (I got out of it and jumped into HR which I found more challenging and far safer plus it paid far better money).

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 11:22am:


So we're not to learn from history then?  We can't hold those in power responsible for their actions at all, or is there a statute of limitations you're operating under?

Give me a window I'm allowed to work within then.

You claim to also be an advocate again domestic violence, do you operate the same way?  Ignore what the abuser did so long as it was long enough in the past and look to them to fix the results of their abuse?

It's such an asinine take I can't even refer to it as "logic"...

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I'm not going to analyse the entire report's findings simply because you don't like the summary.

But let's talk about red flags.  I've laid out the evidence and provided links for you to read more, should you so choose.

You've attempted to distract from that in order to avoid scrutiny while providing not even a single shred of evidence, the best you can come up with is,

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By the guidelines you set out above, if we can't point back to the money spent, or in this case cut from aged care when Morrison was treasurer, how can we possibly go back to before the Coalition was even in Government to an even earlier point in time and point the finger at Labor?

What the actual bugger!?

You can't have it both ways.

You're being, dare I say it, disingenuous as always.

It's a stupid saying because I like cake, but, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Your desperation to avoid an actual discussion is leading to multiple self-inflicted gunshot wounds to your feet.

There are so many red flags in how you respond to information you do not like that it's clear you are not operating in good faith because you just want to be right.  You don't appear to care about what is true and what isn't, all that matters is whatever you believe, that's what's right.

You're reframing the rules of engagement to suit yourself, then throwing them out the window to try and dismiss different points?

Are you for real?

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Do you not age or something?

You've apparently got a double degree, went to law school, was also a high school Maths teacher and a stay-at-home mum?

Here's some advice from my D&D days many many decades ago.  Make detailed notes on your character sheet and don't lose it.  Don't make things up on the fly because it will often bite you in the ass later in the campaign.