greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 8:32pm:


Bobby links a lot of things in his posts that he shouldn't when he's online. I have no idea why but like Dumbarse Aussie he feels compelled to.

I think Bobby and Greggy are both right.

They do serve that kind of slop, but not to everyone.

But, in general, they can and should eat better where medically possible.

If we lie about the conditions, when people see that it's not slop for everyone, everyday, it hurts the movement to push for reform.

Just like conspiracy tards lying about whatever they're trying to push, when they're exposed their argument, in the rational world, is over.

I'm not saying we have any sort of influence on this forum when it comes to public policy, but it's still important to be honest and tell the truth.

I've been eating slop the past couple of weeks.

Creamy Mushroom Soup, Cauliflower and Parmesan Cheese soup, and something we've affectionately called baby food which looks like pumpkin soup but is boiled potato, chicken breast, carrots, green beans and squash, mashed then blended into slop.

My wife was unable to eat proper food at the time, so we've had to change our meals to this.  The kids ate normally but I thought it was unfair for me to eat chewy or crunchy food, so I had the same as her.  We're slowly getting back to normal with more substantial soft foods.

We wouldn't want to have to eat like this forever.  It really made us realise how lucky we are to, normally, have access to such great quality food and it actually has a psychological impact when you don't.

We know our situation is temporary.

The quality of food in general in nursing homes isn't great, but it's not as bad as Bobby is painting it.

But we don't need to exaggerate it.

It can, and should be better.  Sharing meals is such an important part of the human experience and while they may have the option to share the meals, if they're eating poor quality food it's detrimental to their physical and mental health.

It's an easy thing to point to in terms of policy change because everybody eats and can relate.  It's not quite the same when it comes to medical care, nurse access, being bedridden etc, it's not something that everyone can empathise with, for those even capable.

But the food is something we can all agree on.

Well, nearly all of us.  There are some voices pretty much pushing, they're old, they've lived their lives, bugger em.  It costs too much to fix, they should be lucky to have what they do, why should we sacrifice for them? 

Similar to the COVID stand and the elderly the same voices have taken.

Not everyone is capable of compassion and empathy.

And what about the elderly in nursing homes whose only joy in life is seeing their relatives

They probably see people insisting on nursing home lockdown to keep them safe as sadistic monsters

That's certainly how I would feel if I was living in solitary confinement and being told no visitors as I have to be kept safe

I'm sure some elderly people value human flourishing waymore then safety & security

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:48am:


You've got a very obvious tell.

The moment someone says something that's a little too close to home, you go in hard on the sock accusations.

I wonder what it was that triggered you this time?

Was it pointing out that you were complaining that we shouldn't be able to point to something that Scomo did as treasurer back in the 2016-17 budget, cutting $1.2 billion from aged care, because that was too long ago, then in the next "red flag" you claim I should read more to be able to blame Labor, who were last in power even earlier than that, in 2013 and how hypocritical that was?

Or was it that in the short time I've paid attention to you, you've claimed to have a double degree, been to law school, were a high school maths teacher and a stay-at-home mum and that seems like a lot for one person...  It seems, dare I say, a little sus?

Or was it maybe the fact that I've sourced the evidence in the full report of the Royal Commission into Aged Care, the summation and follow up recommendations as what has guided my opinion on the matter and all you've done is say "do your research" like a conspiracy tard?

There is a lot to choose from, and you've displayed time and time again what a precious snowflake you are, so your triggering might not even have anything to do with the forum, I'm just the lucky recipient of your bitching and moaning...

I thought that's what hubby is for...  At least he hopefully gets some perks out of having to endure you...

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:22am:


This is what im saying. They arent ALL bad. Most are in canberra though. The posh one my dad was in in sydney served pretty basic food (to save money i suppose) and called it posh names. A free one in canberra my mother was in temporarily actually had healthy (and it looked tasty) meals. Actually - same one cods was in. They are not all the same.

Spot

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 8:14am:


Yep. NorthOfNorth.

Thought so.

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 5^th, 2022 at 9:57am:


You're not special enough Lisa for there to be some conspiracy against you.

If you want to avoid the topic and focus on this because you can't refute the points other people are making, just abandon the thread again.