China is currently Ukraine's biggest trading partner apart from the transient blip of free weapons and war machines from the USA.

Ukrainian's first need will be to replace appliances, gimcracks, and geegaws destroyed during the Russian conflict. Then will come a need for housing, household goods, and industrial machinery and goods.

China will experience a GDP boom from the Ukraine reconstruction. Goods from Western countries will be uncompetitive by huge margins and even more so after inflation scourges the economies of the West.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 4^th, 2022 at 1:14pm:


That would indeed increase China's market by huge amounts.

In fact, if China does have an economic boom from Ukraine's reconstruction it may be a huge geopolitical step-change for China in economic and military power.

Most of the Russian conscripts fighting in Ukraine are from the east of Russia, close to China.

It should give the world an idea of the kind of neglected trash that the CCP's PLA conscripts will be like.

Like I have mentioned before, this is a given. 

On the Russian side, there are severe sanctions from Europe.  Large stores are closing in Russia, and there is critical lack of general goods for the public.   They wont be able to get them from Europe, so they had to get it from China.    On this regard, we are not talking about military equipments, we are just talking about general household goods.  Something that the sanctions does not cover.

On the Ukrainian side, there will be help from European countries.  However, even most made in Europe products have components made in China.   For example my Dutch electric bike, with a German Bosche motor - had an issue with its display panel.  So I got my brother to take it apart.  Apparently, the display panel is made in China, and the small battery inside is made in China too.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 10:36am:


Depends on how much you are willing to pay for.   If you want an ipad, then pay for an ipad.  But if you paid $100 for an ipad knockoff, dont expect it to last.  Simple.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 11:54am:


Those enforcement cost money, which is why they cost more.  Its all related to money.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 12:17pm:


That my friend is capitalism.   Here in Australia, we are spoiled for choices, as we have higher GDP per person, and so larger purchasing power.  What we want here - or at least the middle class, - is quality over quantity.  And so we tend to look down at cheaper knock offs.

But, elsewhere in the world, the situation is not the same.  For example. a poor child in a third world country will never be able to afford an ipad which can cost around minimum $500.   But, with the Chinese knock off, they can afford something  - even though its slower, and requires regular repairs. 

The Chinese produces everything from a cheap ipad knock off, to an ipad.   They seemed to have all the basis covered.  This is something we need to learn in Australia. 

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 6^th, 2022 at 12:25pm:


Like I said, it is capitalism.   People are not fools, they know that when they pay $100 for an 'ipad', it is an 'ipad', not an ipad.   For those with lower income, an ipad is out of reach.   Those 'ipads' were produced for those reasons, and have an extensive market demand, otherwise they would not make it.