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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #135 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:03am

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 12^th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

For far more fundamental reasons - the government should not be running these businesses in the first place.

The governments job is running the country it should not be involved with businesses.

We should privatise the ABC/SBS those who like it can buy shares in it. It will save taxpayers over a billion dollars a year. Why should those who don't watch it pay taxes for a small minority who don't want commercials to pay for it?

I have PayTv .... it's full of commercial advertising. I pay a premium.... why should there be ads .... why hasn't my subscription decreased & saved me anything because of the ads?

The ABC can be very good for a taking a break from that continual bombardment.

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

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Re: privatisation
Reply #136 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:06am

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Mr Sad,
Quote:

And would a privatised ABC still be bound by their charter,
you know the one that required honesty in reporting which time and time again,
investigation after investigation has shown to be fair,
balanced and of the highest integrity?

Wow - you really have been brainwashed.
I see the ABC as nothing more than a Govt.
propaganda outlet.
It reminds me of the Tass news agency in Russia.

You want to accuse me of being brainwashed, yet the "propaganda" you speak of is nothing but reporting of both sides.

You're so used to what you get from the likes of SkyNews that the ABC, sticking to their charter, is considered "propaganda" to you.

Just shows how far right you've gone without even realising it friend.

Each time the Libs hold enquires into the ABC, other than the last one that was not finished, they all come to the same conclusion, the ABC has abided by their charter and are not in fact a propaganda outlet.

Go look it up...

Facts over feelings mate.

No you're wrong -
The ABC pushed propaganda about how being a homosexual was OK -
always pushing gay rights -
that Covid vaccines were OK -
never had one story about vaccine injuries,
whenever a black person did a home invasion, a car jacking or a horrifying assault -
they would never mention their race-
it was always - " a youth" or some other euphemism.
They always follow the status quo of our wonderful democracy
without evidence that it's a one party state with 2 branches:
Labor and Liberal.

It's pure Govt. propaganda.
You have been sucked in.
Our media is highly controlled.

I spoke to a radio presenter once -
they have to go on a 4 day course before
they are allowed to speak on the radio -
to learn the Govt. line on everything -
good examples are as per the above.
They are not free to say whatever they want.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #137 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:08am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Mr Sad,
Quote:

And would a privatised ABC still be bound by their charter,
you know the one that required honesty in reporting which time and time again,
investigation after investigation has shown to be fair,
balanced and of the highest integrity?

Wow - you really have been brainwashed.
I see the ABC as nothing more than a Govt.
propaganda outlet.
It reminds me of the Tass news agency in Russia.

How would it be a propaganda outlet for the current LNP govt when they are forever complaining about it being left leaning.

They like a few here want it privatised.

Do you ever have a clue?

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

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Re: privatisation
Reply #138 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:10am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Mr Sad,
Quote:

And would a privatised ABC still be bound by their charter,
you know the one that required honesty in reporting which time and time again,
investigation after investigation has shown to be fair,
balanced and of the highest integrity?

Wow - you really have been brainwashed.
I see the ABC as nothing more than a Govt.
propaganda outlet.
It reminds me of the Tass news agency in Russia.

How would it be a propaganda outlet for the current LNP govt when they are forever complaining about it being left leaning.

They like a few here want it privatised.

Do you ever have a clue?

Read my post above.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #139 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:11am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:06am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 9:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

Mr Sad,
Quote:

And would a privatised ABC still be bound by their charter,
you know the one that required honesty in reporting which time and time again,
investigation after investigation has shown to be fair,
balanced and of the highest integrity?

Wow - you really have been brainwashed.
I see the ABC as nothing more than a Govt.
propaganda outlet.
It reminds me of the Tass news agency in Russia.

You want to accuse me of being brainwashed, yet the "propaganda" you speak of is nothing but reporting of both sides.

You're so used to what you get from the likes of SkyNews that the ABC, sticking to their charter, is considered "propaganda" to you.

Just shows how far right you've gone without even realising it friend.

Each time the Libs hold enquires into the ABC, other than the last one that was not finished, they all come to the same conclusion, the ABC has abided by their charter and are not in fact a propaganda outlet.

Go look it up...

Facts over feelings mate.

No you're wrong -
The ABC pushed propaganda about how being a homosexual was OK -
always pushing gay rights -
that Covid vaccines were OK -
never had one story about vaccine injuries,
whenever a black person did a home invasion, a car jacking or a horrifying assault -
they would never mention their race-
it was always - " a youth" or some other euphemism.
They always follow the status quo of our wonderful democracy
without evidence that it's a one party state with 2 branches:
Labor and Liberal.

It's pure Govt. propaganda.
You have been sucked in.
Our media is highly controlled.

I spoke to a radio presenter once -
they have to go on a 4 day course before
they are allowed to speak on the radio -
to learn the Govt. line on everything -
good examples are as per the above.
They are not free to say whatever they want.

You're an idiot .... how is that govt. propaganda?

The govt of the day is a rightwing conservative LNP govt. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

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Re: Modern Monetary Theory (MMT)
Reply #140 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:14am

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 12:21am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 12^th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:

For far more fundamental reasons - the government should not be running these businesses in the first place.

The governments job is running the country it should not be involved with businesses.

We should privatise the ABC/SBS those who like it can buy shares in it. It will save taxpayers over a billion dollars a year. Why should those who don't watch it pay taxes for a small minority who don't want commercials to pay for it?

You're assuming the ABCs charter is to make money.

It's not, it's to provide a service.

If it's privatised all the biggest "loss" services will go, including new and radio that saves lives during emergencies and provides regional and rural Australia with news and information.

All the international services will go which helps bring the attention to Australia boosting many local markets, not just tourism.

If, like Telstra, the government legislate service obligations to these services and areas there will be demands of handouts for subsidies.

What's the point in privatising it in that case?

And would a privatised ABC still be bound by their charter, you know the one that required honesty in reporting which time and time again, investigation after investigation has shown to be fair, balanced and of the highest integrity?

If whoever buys it cannot control the narrative to further their own agenda, like Skynews, are unable to advertise and have to follow the Principles and Standards the ABC is currently bound to, nobody will buy it anyway...

Unless the ABC is destroyed it's not a profitable service.

And despite the slow shift to the right, that's the entire point of the notion of privatising the ABC, to destroy it because those who pull the strings of the conservative parties demand it, and the sheep are all to eager to follow orders.

Once again you're just full of utter shyte.

Let's take a closer look at the budget the ABC enjoys compliments of Scomo ie us!

We're all tightening our belt Post Covid yeah? No pay rises and everybody who is working is working a lot of unpaid overtime.

Meantime ABC gets an automatic handout of OVER a billion dollars each year!

Let's look at how responsible the ABC has been. For that we'll need to start with its Managing Director.

Exhibit A

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/abc-boss-david-anderson-pockets-...

ABC managing director David Anderson is now paid a salary of over $1 million.

2:23PM OCTOBER 23, 2021

Senior executives at the ABC enjoyed bumper salary increases in the past financial year, with the remuneration package of the managing director tipping over $1m and the news director pocketing a 36 per cent rise.

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

HYPATIA - Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer (370 - 415)

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Re: privatisation
Reply #141 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:15am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:11am:

You're an idiot .... how is that govt. propaganda?

The govt of the day is a rightwing conservative LNP govt. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Don't call me an idiot - you idiot.
It was the Libbos who organised a vote on poofter marriage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Marriage_Law_Postal_Survey

Prior to the survey, the Liberal–National Coalition government had pledged to facilitate a private member's bill to legalise same-sex marriage in the Parliament in the event of a "Yes" outcome. This allowed parliamentary debate and a vote eventually leading to the legalisation of same-sex marriage.[4] Both the Coalition and the opposition Labor Party allowed their MPs a conscience vote on the relevant legislation. Had the survey returned a majority "No" result, the government said it would not allow a parliamentary debate or vote on legalising same-sex marriage.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #142 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:21am

Oi Sad Sack!

Let's take a closer look at the budget the ABC enjoys compliments of Scomo ie us!

We're all tightening our belt Post Covid yeah? No pay rises and everybody who is working is working a lot of unpaid overtime.

Meantime the ABC gets an automatic handout of OVER a billion dollars each year!

Let's look at how responsible the ABC has been. For that we'll need to start with its Managing Director.

Exhibit A

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/abc-boss-david-anderson-pockets-...

ABC managing director David Anderson is now paid a salary of over $1 million.

2:23PM OCTOBER 23, 2021

Senior executives at the ABC enjoyed bumper salary increases in the past financial year, with the remuneration package of the managing director tipping over $1m and the news director pocketing a 36 per cent rise.

Now let's put this in perspective: Australia's Prime Minister gets paid $549 K. The ABC requires an urgent restructure and needs to be trimmed down by 50% ASAP! The resultant savings must go straight into the bankrupt yes bankrupt Aged Care Sector!

« Last Edit: Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:29am by Lisa Jones »

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #143 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:38am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:11am:

You're an idiot .... how is that govt. propaganda?

The govt of the day is a rightwing conservative LNP govt. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Don't call me an idiot - you idiot.
It was the Libbos who organised a vote on poofter marriage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Marriage_Law_Postal_Survey

Prior to the survey, the Liberal–National Coalition government had pledged to facilitate a private member's bill to legalise same-sex marriage in the Parliament in the event of a "Yes" outcome. This allowed parliamentary debate and a vote eventually leading to the legalisation of same-sex marriage.[4] Both the Coalition and the opposition Labor Party allowed their MPs a conscience vote on the relevant legislation. Had the survey returned a majority "No" result, the government said it would not allow a parliamentary debate or vote on legalising same-sex marriage.

They were pressurised into making a decision on a parliamentary vote.

That still does not make the ABC a proganda outlet for a conservative rightwing LNP govt.

Still an idiot.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #144 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:45am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:15am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:11am:

You're an idiot .... how is that govt. propaganda?

The govt of the day is a rightwing conservative LNP govt. Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Don't call me an idiot - you idiot.
It was the Libbos who organised a vote on poofter marriage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Marriage_Law_Postal_Survey

Prior to the survey, the Liberal–National Coalition government had pledged to facilitate a private member's bill to legalise same-sex marriage in the Parliament in the event of a "Yes" outcome. This allowed parliamentary debate and a vote eventually leading to the legalisation of same-sex marriage.[4] Both the Coalition and the opposition Labor Party allowed their MPs a conscience vote on the relevant legislation. Had the survey returned a majority "No" result, the government said it would not allow a parliamentary debate or vote on legalising same-sex marriage.

They were pressurised into making a decision on a parliamentary vote.

That still does not make the ABC a proganda outlet for a conservative rightwing LNP govt.

Still an idiot.

The Liberal party stood up for queers to
sodomise each other's stinking backsides
and the ABC pushed the propaganda that it was all OK.
That propaganda was so powerful that idiots voted for it.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #145 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:53am

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Oi Sad Sack!

Let's take a closer look at the budget the ABC enjoys compliments of Scomo ie us!

We're all tightening our belt Post Covid yeah? No pay rises and everybody who is working is working a lot of unpaid overtime.

Meantime the ABC gets an automatic handout of OVER a billion dollars each year!

Let's look at how responsible the ABC has been. For that we'll need to start with its Managing Director.

Exhibit A

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/abc-boss-david-anderson-pockets-...

ABC managing director David Anderson is now paid a salary of over $1 million.

2:23PM OCTOBER 23, 2021

Senior executives at the ABC enjoyed bumper salary increases in the past financial year, with the remuneration package of the managing director tipping over $1m and the news director pocketing a 36 per cent rise.

Now let's put this in perspective: Australia's Prime Minister gets paid $549 K. The ABC requires an urgent restructure and needs to be trimmed down by 50% ASAP! The resultant savings must go straight into the bankrupt yes bankrupt Aged Care Sector!

So what? the obscene salaries of of CEO's & executives in private enterprise make the ABC managing directors salary look like a pittance.

You wanna get some perspective on that.

The Commissioner for Taxation Chris Jordan is on over $2million a year until 2024.

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

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Re: privatisation
Reply #146 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:11am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

So what? the obscene salaries of of CEO's & executives in private enterprise make the ABC managing directors salary look like a pittance.

You wanna get some perspective on that.

The Commissioner for Taxation Chris Jordan is on over $2million a year until 2024.

Our PM gets paid more than the president of the United States.
Senior Public servants get paid much more.
Guess what - it's all done with borrowed money.
That's communism for you -
if you're high up in the party you live like a King.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #147 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:19am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:11am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

So what? the obscene salaries of of CEO's & executives in private enterprise make the ABC managing directors salary look like a pittance.

You wanna get some perspective on that.

The Commissioner for Taxation Chris Jordan is on over $2million a year until 2024.

Our PM gets paid more than the president of the United States.
Senior Public servants get paid much more.
Guess what - it's all done with borrowed money.
That's communism for you -
if you're high up in the party you live like a King.

So the LNP are Communists now? A bigger idiot.

Our PM gets paid about the same as the US President.

PM - AU$549,000
Pres - AU $539,000

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais

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Re: privatisation
Reply #148 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:41am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

Oi Sad Sack!

Let's take a closer look at the budget the ABC enjoys compliments of Scomo ie us!

We're all tightening our belt Post Covid yeah? No pay rises and everybody who is working is working a lot of unpaid overtime.

Meantime the ABC gets an automatic handout of OVER a billion dollars each year!

Let's look at how responsible the ABC has been. For that we'll need to start with its Managing Director.

Exhibit A

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/abc-boss-david-anderson-pockets-...

ABC managing director David Anderson is now paid a salary of over $1 million.

2:23PM OCTOBER 23, 2021

Senior executives at the ABC enjoyed bumper salary increases in the past financial year, with the remuneration package of the managing director tipping over $1m and the news director pocketing a 36 per cent rise.

Now let's put this in perspective: Australia's Prime Minister gets paid $549 K. The ABC requires an urgent restructure and needs to be trimmed down by 50% ASAP! The resultant savings must go straight into the bankrupt yes bankrupt Aged Care Sector!

The Commissioner for Taxation Chris Jordan is on over $2million a year until 2024.

Boom even more money for Aged Care!

There's way too much money being HANDED OUT compliments of the TAX PAYER.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1642722399/27

^^^ Here's another $55 million I found a few minutes ago.

I reckon we'll find even more money which should be going into Aged Care before dinner time.

If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

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Re: privatisation
Reply #149 - Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:49am

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 11:11am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2022 at 10:53am:

So what? the obscene salaries of of CEO's & executives in private enterprise make the ABC managing directors salary look like a pittance.

You wanna get some perspective on that.

The Commissioner for Taxation Chris Jordan is on over $2million a year until 2024.

Our PM gets paid more than the president of the United States.
Senior Public servants get paid much more.
Guess what - it's all done with borrowed money.
That's communism for you -
if you're high up in the party you live like a King.

So the LNP are Communists now? A bigger idiot.

Our PM gets paid about the same as the US President.

PM - AU$549,000
Pres - AU $539,000

Hi idiot,
They are all communists pretending to be capitalists.

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