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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74108 Gender:	Re: privatisation Reply #60 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:59pm freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:18pm: You are a mindless parrot, chanting empty slogans. says the mindess parrot chanting 'ecomomic theory's' that has been proven to be false countless times
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44011 Gender:	Re: privatisation Reply #61 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:02pm John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:59pm: freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:18pm: You are a mindless parrot, chanting empty slogans. says the mindess parrot chanting 'ecomomic theory's' that has been proven to be false countless times FD is doing you slowly, Four Planks Gino.
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Reply #62 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

incorrect.

the best things that keep getting improved are made by private companies

just look at smart phones and tv's.

every year they get better and better.

Rubbish. They're not improving phones because they want to make them better for you, They're improving phones because they are trying to increase or maintain market share. If they could get away with selling you the same old nokia 5110 they were selling you decades ago, they would do it in a heartbeat.

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:54pm:

anything done by government is catastrophic and usually a failure.

more rubbish.

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Reply #63 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

Frank wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

You are a mindless parrot, chanting empty slogans.

says the mindess parrot chanting 'ecomomic theory's' that has been proven to be false countless times

FD is doing you slowly, Four Planks Gino.

FD isn't even doing himself. Just because you are as clueless as FD that doesn't make him right.

Everything that has been privatised has seen a reduction in outcome or quality. Everything. There isn't a single industry that has been privatised that has seen better outcomes for the end product.

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Reply #64 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:06pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 7:18pm:

You are a mindless parrot, chanting empty slogans.

says the mindess parrot chanting 'ecomomic theory's' that has been proven to be false countless times

Wow. You really have no idea what you are on about. What economic theories do you think have been disproven?

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:50pm:

In NSW EOY results a public school beat all the rest...

I get public health and it is excellent without all the payouts.

Electricity may be a commodity - but that commodity in public hands does not need to satisfy shareholders and rapacious robber barons who 'bought' it. Price has almost trebled under 'privatisation' with a lower standard of service.

Etc, etc, etc.

About 10 years ago I needed a hernia operation.
The public hospital waiting list was 18 months but
my medical insurance with HBA got me done in only 10 days.
So in that case the Govt. service was no good.

10 days vs 18 months.

Money talks, BS walks.

Dnarever wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 1:06pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:

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It's called 'privatisation', the selling off of state assets to stave off bankruptcy caused by the bank-created debt.

That's not why they do it.

Typically not but it was the reason behind NSW's Labor's attempted power sell off.

Simply the NSW government could not afford the necessary upgrades and maintenance due to a long period of neglect.

So it isn't always the reason but it can be.

Just in case anyone has forgotten this little gem.

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Reply #65 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:08pm

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

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I doubt they needed either of those in SA.

Did you not see Monk's anecdote about a pole that got blown over?

Yes, and that requires neither a backup power stations or a second set of wires to prevent it happening. It just needed to be built properly instead f cheaply. So why did you suggest them?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74108 Gender:	Re: privatisation Reply #66 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:09pm freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:06pm: What economic theories do you think have been disproven? which one hasn't?
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Reply #67 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:09pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

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I doubt they needed either of those in SA.

Did you not see Monk's anecdote about a pole that got blown over?

Yes, and that requires neither a backup power stations or a second set of wires to prevent it happening. It just needed to be built properly instead f cheaply. So why did you suggest them?

You are the one who suggested they would have had contingencies. I am not sure why it was not bleeding obvious at the time, but I was trying to guess what you meant, seeing as neither of us know.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48816 At my desk.	Re: privatisation Reply #68 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:10pm John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:09pm: freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:06pm: What economic theories do you think have been disproven? which one hasn't? Are you asking me to guess what you meant again, because you have absolutely no idea what you are on about?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74108 Gender:	Re: privatisation Reply #69 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:11pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:56pm: So in that case the Govt. service was no good. except for the 'govt service' that keeps the private hospital running
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Reply #70 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:12pm

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:06pm:

What economic theories do you think have been disproven?

which one hasn't?

Are you asking me to guess what you meant again, because you have absolutely no idea what you are on about?

No, I'm asking you to tell me what economic theory you think has proven to be true?

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Reply #71 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:14pm

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:09pm:

You are the one who suggested they would have had contingencies..

So you automatically went for the most ridiculous contingencies you could think off? Cheesy

Were you afraid that if you had suggested a reasonable contingency you would have shot down your own argument? so you had no choice but to go to ridiculous.

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Reply #72 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:16pm

180 degrees wrong - there is no need for people to make profit and thus raise prices when the whole thing was performing like a Swiss watch anyway.

You can do better than that freediver - there are endless places people can buy shares in private industry to earn a profit without ruining a perfectly good public utility for the public ... nobody is stopping them.

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Reply #73 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:17pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

So in that case the Govt. service was no good.

except for the 'govt service' that keeps the private hospital running Cheesy

Touche` - if they/their fund want to pay for a private hospital, let them - just not out of the public purse at the same time. Now lessee - which way do you think they'll all jump then?

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Reply #74 - Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:25pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 9:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2022 at 8:56pm:

So in that case the Govt. service was no good.

except for the 'govt service' that keeps the private hospital running Cheesy

Actually it was at a major large hospital and guess what?

The operating theater was the same one as used by the public patients.
Only the ward I was staying at was different -
my own private room and better food.

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