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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #105 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 9:20am I watched this again last night - is it the greatest boxing match in history? George Foreman vs Muhammad Ali - Oct. 30, 1974 - Entire fight - Rounds 1 - 8 & Interview 80,196,600 views Dec 19, 2010
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #106 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am Hell no! It's a good match. But there is only a few factors at play.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #107 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 2:49pm Jasin wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 10:27am: Hell no! It's a good match. But there are only a few factors at play. I think it's got to be right there in the top 10 boxing matches - perhaps number 1.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #108 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 3:31pm Hell no. It's just biasly popular with Americans. Even this fight has more than what Ali & Foreman put on. Conlon v Wood highlights. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=conlon+v+wood&&view=detail&mid=8322F9870373...
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Reply #109 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 3:48pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Hell no. It's just biasly popular with Americans.
Even this fight has more than what Ali & Foreman put on.
Conlon v Wood highlights.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=conlon+v+wood&&view=detail&mid=8322F9870373...

here:

tough fight but they didn't even show Michael Conlan after
he was punched out of the ring.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #110 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 7:49pm That's because he was rushed straight to hospital because he didn't come around with the salts or anything.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #111 - Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 8:26pm Jasin wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2022 at 7:49pm: That's because he was rushed straight to hospital because he didn't come around with the salts or anything. That's no good. You'd think the referee would jump out of the ring and at least check him out?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #112 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:01pm Mike Tyson vs Titans - Brutal Knockouts 19,039,474 views May 17, 2021 Mike Tyson is a true legend of the heavyweight division. He entered the ring to literally kill his opponents with his insane rage and power...
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135733 Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #113 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:01pm: Mike Tyson vs Titans - Brutal Knockouts 19,039,474 views May 17, 2021 Mike Tyson is a true legend of the heavyweight division. He entered the ring to literally kill his opponents with his insane rage and power... You ever been bashed in the ring, Bobby?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #114 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:08pm Mike Tyson has still got it in his 50s 7,087 views Jun 24, 2022
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Reply #115 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:16pm

They say boxing is dangerous but then I see this:

Isle of Man TT 160MPH+

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HP4 Race Isle of Man

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Jun 16, 2017 Experience Sulby Straight at the Isle of Man TT aboard the carbon-fibre framed BMW HP4 RACE. Professional BMW Motorrad racer Peter Hickman rides flat out in sixth, bouncing off the rev limiter. Filmed on a closed road during an official racing event at the Isle of Man TT 2017.

A look at the unboxing of a new bike as per the video above.
Cost US $78,000 .

€80.000 BMW HP4 RACE Unboxing & Start-up | S1000RR carbon fiber superbike
4,602,359 views Oct 4, 2017 The BMW HP4 Race is one of the most exclusive and powerful superbikes ever built. Based on the S1000RR it costs €80,000 ($78,000 in US), and it features a carbon fiber frame, wheels and World Superbike specifications. Every unit is handmade, and we got the chance to unbox one and fire it up. Here's our video of the BMW HP4 Race unboxing.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40619 Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #116 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:30pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:01pm: Mike Tyson vs Titans - Brutal Knockouts 19,039,474 views May 17, 2021 Mike Tyson is a true legend of the heavyweight division. He entered the ring to literally kill his opponents with his insane rage and power... Boy, even for a boxing lover that was savage.
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Reply #117 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:37pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 8:01pm:

Mike Tyson vs Titans - Brutal Knockouts

19,039,474 views May 17, 2021

Mike Tyson is a true legend of the heavyweight division.
He entered the ring to literally kill his opponents with his insane rage and power...

Boy, even for a boxing lover that was savage.

Tyson vs tyrell Biggs was interesting.
A professional vs an amateur, really, both similarly skilled.
One is a professional though.

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Reply #118 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 9:07pm

I always consider Tyson in two ways.
The Pre-Don King Tyson & the Don King Tyson.

Tyson is a follower. Not used to thinking for himself, but follows his Coach and peers to a tee with absolute precision.
When his adopted Father/Coach died. The 'Great' Tyson was left alone to the mercy of Don King's influence and that was his doom.
With a nasty exploitive Wife designed by King and King himself - slowly, but definitely surely, Mike Tyson began his slide down the Snake into Drugs, bad women and all the exploitive bad influences that could take advantage of his innocence. Don King defeated the Great Tyson and the other Boxers just capitalised.

What would have Tyson become if his Guardian Father/Coach had not died, or at least had the sense to put Tyson in the hands of someone who could be trusted?
Well, he certainly would have done a lot better in Boxing history.
Tyson was beaten 'outside' of the Ring by King.
Used and abused.

Ali loved Tyson. Like Batman loved Robin.
To show that Tyson's dedication was in 'serving' and following.
Ali whispered in his ear in the middle of the Ring regarding Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick (Joker & Riddler) "Get them for me." In which he did.

Sadly, Tyson is too ruined in my view. Smoking pot during a recent interview shows that he hasn't really escaped the shadow of Don King's influence and the influence of Crime.

But if anything. People recognised his 'greatness' in the Pre-King era of his Boxing.
Being a 'Swarmer' or Puncher - the likes of today's Heavyweights like Fury and Wilder would not only have the size, heavier hit - but also the speed and punching rate to both keep him at bay and take him out from a distance. Something the older era bigger men couldn't do unless Tyson was coked out of his skull.

Also, the only guy who could beat Tyson - would have been BUTTERBEAN. The intensity of Butterbean being a 4 rounder would have Tyson facing a guy who would just swing outright as if the fight was only for 1 round. Butterbean would swing so much, the one time Tyson stops ducking and weaving would be the last time.

Anyway, Tyson is ancient history.

Tyson Fury is also history - having shown his dominance and not others good enough to entice him to get back into the ring for a Title. The likes of Fury, Wilder - big and very fast punchers would whip the likes of Ali, Frazier, Foreman and more. Too big, too fast, to powerful, too consistent.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Boxing Reply #119 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 9:16pm Hi JaSin, I didn't realise you were so knowledgeable about boxing.
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