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SerialBrain9 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2161	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #150 - May 24^th, 2022 at 12:47pm No That’s incorrect.. Masks are worthless as been proven many times over in this thread… Old people die… get over it..
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Reply #151 - May 24^th, 2022 at 1:30pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

Masks are worthless as been proven many times over in this thread…

Incorrect.

Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14178 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #152 - May 24^th, 2022 at 1:53pm SerialBrain9 wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 12:27pm: There are more up to date figures on the ABS but they seem to have hidden them … How many conspiracy theories can you HOLD ... at a given moment ? .
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #153 - May 24^th, 2022 at 6:55pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 1:53pm:

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 12:27pm:

There are more up to date figures on the ABS but they seem to have hidden them
…

How many
conspiracy theories
can you HOLD ...

at a given moment ?

They were on a different page to what I had bookmarked… i posted that information…

You must have missed it..

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Reply #154 - May 24^th, 2022 at 7:02pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 12:47pm:

No

That’s incorrect..

Masks are worthless as been proven many times over in this thread…

Old people die… get over it..

The actual issue is that the right are uniforming uneducated, simple minded and ignorant. Masks are not worthless. No one has proved they are.

Babies have died of covid

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SerialBrain9 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2161	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #155 - May 24^th, 2022 at 8:58pm In 2020 Key statistics COVID-19 was the 38th leading cause of death Don’t the other 37 causes of deaths count? People need to get a grip.. People die of many different reasons every year in Australia… 10s of thousands!! Get over it and stop worshiping coooooovid!!
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Reply #156 - May 24^th, 2022 at 9:02pm

Quote:

“Researchers in Denmark reported on Wednesday that surgical masks did not protect the wearers against infection with the coronavirus in a large randomized clinical trial,” the New York Times reports.

“Researchers in Denmark reported on Wednesday that surgical masks did not protect the wearers against infection with the coronavirus in a large randomized clinical trial.” https://t.co/bKOENjCKVq

— J.B. Handley (@GenRescue) November 18, 2020
The study is perhaps the best scientific evidence to date on the efficacy of masks.

https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from...

But no one has disproooooven it…. Cheesy

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Reply #157 - May 24^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

But, but , but Cheesy

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Masks and respirators do not work.

There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.

Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective dose is smaller than one aerosol particle.

The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-re...

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Reply #158 - May 24^th, 2022 at 9:20pm

And by the way - if you are sick… stay home..

If you are not… get to work and do your job

No mask needed - especially when 99.9% of the population ARE NOT sick in the first place…

We all know that Oxygen and is part of healing for for virus sicknesses..

So what does a mask do?

Drops the rate of Oxygen and you rebreathe waste … why would they force healthy people to do that?

And if you are sick.. stay home… take your mask off and get as much fresh air as you can…

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Reply #159 - May 24^th, 2022 at 9:50pm

Guess what I found out today?

The electrical engineer a few doors down the street (his wife is a hairdresser and runs a business from her home studio so she does my hair hence why I know this) is triple jabbed and wears a mask as per his workplace conditions.

In January her husband caught Covid19 and was sick for 8 days straight.

Today she called me because she's angry and confused. Why? Her husband has Covid19 AGAIN and is in bed sick as a dog!

I was glad she did my hair a few days back but oh boy she was livid. She wasn't sure if her husband could qualify for Covid19 leave a 2nd time. And then she started on masks and vaccines and how they were BOTH useless and as far as she was concerned .... our government is feeding us BS as they have no real idea about what WILL work for this type of virus.

I let her vent (it's what good neighbours are for).

Tonight I made sure dinner was heavily fortified with fresh crushed garlic, turmeric and curry.

Dessert is now fresh fruit (mainly oranges and mandarins).

Bottom line?

1. No one really knows wtf we should be doing to combat this ever mutating bastard of a virus.

2. We are trying whatever we can HOPING it will make SOME difference. Example: I myself have my family chewing Vit C tablets every morning. I've changed our diet so that it's mainly fresh fruit and vegetables and legumes and I include a lot of herbs/spices esp home grown herbs. Likewise our government is telling us what it thinks will help.

3. Ultimately though we don't know why some people can still contract Covid19 (a second time) while triple jabbed and wearing a mask. My own triple jabbed husband was terribly sick for weeks and I cared for him like an on call 24/7 personal private nurse even though I was totally UNvaccinated whilst I cared for him. I did what I could though .. I wore a mask around him and hand sanitized and washed everything he wore and every towel he touched every day whilst cooking up fortified soups for him to eat and I bleached/disinfected/sterilised everything in sight because I could see right before my very eyes that this virus was real and bloody awful. And I had kids who needed to be kept safe from it.

4. Some people seem to have a form of natural immunity to Covid19. Why? Again no one really knows. It would appear that I fall into that category. Some people get very sick and some even die. And even the vaccines themselves are not 100% safe. Some people just can't have the vaccines which are currently around. These people have (temporary/permanent) exemptions. Some people have had mild side effects after having a Covid19 vaccine. Others have had severe allergic reactions and yes some have even died.

That is the truth of the matter. So what are we to do?

We just have to do the best we can AND make informed decisions as individuals, as families and as a community. If you're not feeling well stay home and rest up. Keep up the fluids and meds and get some fresh air! IF your symptoms alleviate then check out if you can work from home. Don't go to work if you feel sick. It may/may not be Covid19. Either way ... it's not fair on your colleagues (or their families) if you pass on anything to them. i

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Reply #160 - May 25^th, 2022 at 12:19am

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 23^rd, 2022 at 11:47am:

@lols

RE Oxygen Therapy..

One thing i have looked at in the past is getting a Nebuliser/Nebulizer for Flu/colds for oxygen therapy by using professionally mixed Hydrogen Peroxide which gives you an extra molecule of oxygen..

They sell them in chemists - although i would speak to your doctor/health professional or directly to the chemist first…

Check it out..
https://riordanclinic.org/nebulized-peroxide/

I’ve copied that link and will enquire with chemist first….

I’ve done this a (link below) couple months back… along with cryotherapy (the freeze chamber), the float tank… (and my complaint is… it’s too big… round almost… I closed the lid to keep warm and it was dark… and I floated around and got lost finding the hatch! PMSL ….. I’ve done the float tank years ago and it was a better chamber… with earphones with chosen music and subliminal messages…. … instead of just darkness and my overactive load thinking! Roll Eyes

infra red was okay I guess… and the brain tap headset… interesting. I’m off to Queensland next week and will go to that crystal place where they have a salt room. I might go do a session at the float house before I go…but not that big round pod where I felt lost at sea Roll Eyes

https://melbournefloathouse.com.au/oxygen-therapy-melbourne/

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Reply #161 - May 25^th, 2022 at 12:33am

Re: masks … proper fitting masks for tradies help against toxins or dust etc with spray painting and so forth. And I’ve had a proper soft easy to breath with medical mask in the operating room that nurses/surgeons wear… it’s so soft and beautiful… but mainly to stop blood etc. not sure about virus. But I can understand how the medicos can wear these masks all day as they are quite different to the ones we are sold in general public.

Masks can protect from external unwanted elements. Dust etc
But…. How many ill fitted masks we see on the general public with big gaps near bridge of nose and at sides etc
And how many times people keep touching their masks.
This is where it totally defeats the purpose.

I’ve noticed many workers have masked up again … at the post office, supermarket check out chics, the chemist… I haven’t been to a restaurant for a couple weeks to see if the waitresses/waiters are masked up too.

It’s started again… and I need to face a person to listen and lip read … the mask makes it so difficult.

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Reply #162 - May 25^th, 2022 at 5:18am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 9:50pm:

Guess what I found out today?

The electrical engineer a few doors down the street (his wife is a hairdresser and runs a business from her home studio so she does my hair hence why I know this) is triple jabbed and wears a mask as per his workplace conditions.

In January her husband caught Covid19 and was sick for 8 days straight.

Today she called me because she's angry and confused. Why? Her husband has Covid19 AGAIN and is in bed sick as a dog!

Perhaps it is because the electrical engineer has a poor immune system. If my father caught covid, because of his poor health regarding diabetes, he would probably have to enter hospital. If you are not looking after your health in your 30s and 40s, you will have a problem with health conditions during your 50s and 60s.

We have just had a passing rain event in Qld. We got 200mm of rain for May. My car sat in the garage for a few days as the rain fell. And with the passing rain, the mould in the airconditioning starting sporing fairly bad. Not as much as last year, since I took car of that with a deodoriser. But, I had to spray each of the vents of the airconditioning for a few seconds with Glen20. Otherwise, I will be covered with spores of mould like it was when I used the heater of the car in June.

People with diabetes should be using things like apple cider vinegar. Is the electrical engineer diabetic? Usually, sick covid patients would have a bad time with covid because of the attack of the virus on the people's ability to produce insulin. One type 1 diabetic I spoke to online said that her insulin had the same effect as injecting water. She was hardly getting a benefit. And seeing that sugar feeds viruses, your body will need things like apple cider vinegar to both help kill off the virus as well as help the body become as insulin sensitive as possible.

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Reply #163 - May 25^th, 2022 at 12:35pm

Sophia wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 12:19am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 23^rd, 2022 at 11:47am:

@lols

RE Oxygen Therapy..

One thing i have looked at in the past is getting a Nebuliser/Nebulizer for Flu/colds for oxygen therapy by using professionally mixed Hydrogen Peroxide which gives you an extra molecule of oxygen..

They sell them in chemists - although i would speak to your doctor/health professional or directly to the chemist first…

Check it out..
https://riordanclinic.org/nebulized-peroxide/

I’ve copied that link and will enquire with chemist first….

I’ve done this a (link below) couple months back… along with cryotherapy (the freeze chamber), the float tank… (and my complaint is… it’s too big… round almost… I closed the lid to keep warm and it was dark… and I floated around and got lost finding the hatch! PMSL ….. I’ve done the float tank years ago and it was a better chamber… with earphones with chosen music and subliminal messages…. … instead of just darkness and my overactive load thinking! Roll Eyes

infra red was okay I guess… and the brain tap headset… interesting. I’m off to Queensland next week and will go to that crystal place where they have a salt room. I might go do a session at the float house before I go…but not that big round pod where I felt lost at sea Roll Eyes

https://melbournefloathouse.com.au/oxygen-therapy-melbourne/

Very interesting lols…

And i think, sometimes, we could all do with getting away from reality, even if its just for a little while … the world has gone bugger*** mad… people are getting selfish, greedy and hostile..

Part of the reason im a social hermit apart from family and a handful of close friends.. well… not “ALL” of my family… some of them are certifiable as well… lol

So a float tank, oxygen tank/bed, salt caves… kick back and switch the world off for a little while… and you also get the added benefits of the treatments…

NIH link for VitD and Magnesium benefits…

https://www.imaware.health/blog/vitamin-d-and-magnesium

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Reply #164 - May 25^th, 2022 at 6:28pm

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 12:35pm:

Sophia wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 12:19am:

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 23^rd, 2022 at 11:47am:

@lols

RE Oxygen Therapy..

One thing i have looked at in the past is getting a Nebuliser/Nebulizer for Flu/colds for oxygen therapy by using professionally mixed Hydrogen Peroxide which gives you an extra molecule of oxygen..

They sell them in chemists - although i would speak to your doctor/health professional or directly to the chemist first…

Check it out..
https://riordanclinic.org/nebulized-peroxide/

I’ve copied that link and will enquire with chemist first….

I’ve done this a (link below) couple months back… along with cryotherapy (the freeze chamber), the float tank… (and my complaint is… it’s too big… round almost… I closed the lid to keep warm and it was dark… and I floated around and got lost finding the hatch! PMSL ….. I’ve done the float tank years ago and it was a better chamber… with earphones with chosen music and subliminal messages…. … instead of just darkness and my overactive load thinking! Roll Eyes

infra red was okay I guess… and the brain tap headset… interesting. I’m off to Queensland next week and will go to that crystal place where they have a salt room. I might go do a session at the float house before I go…but not that big round pod where I felt lost at sea Roll Eyes

https://melbournefloathouse.com.au/oxygen-therapy-melbourne/

Very interesting lols…

And i think, sometimes, we could all do with getting away from reality, even if its just for a little while … the world has gone bugger*** mad… people are getting selfish, greedy and hostile..

Part of the reason im a social hermit apart from family and a handful of close friends.. well… not “ALL” of my family… some of them are certifiable as well… lol

So a float tank, oxygen tank/bed, salt caves… kick back and switch the world off for a little while… and you also get the added benefits of the treatments…

NIH link for VitD and Magnesium benefits…

https://www.imaware.health/blog/vitamin-d-and-magnesium

Much the same same way I have felt… literally hiding! I’m just thinking of survival more than anything…. Trying to stay healthy and sane… I did a big shop today for items that will last a good 18 months… replacing some items as we use them. (If food is going to be scarce as the signs keep pointing that way)
BTW I also have supplements that lengthen telomeres….fascinating to know about our telomeres.

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