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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #180 - May 28^th, 2022 at 4:58am

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 12:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice (from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

From their website:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

Both logical and rational.

It was on Queensland health Facebook page 9th Jan 2021
https://www.facebook.com/QLDHealth/photos/3665184033589652/

Nice deflection what is the date on your link which isn't the link where this was posted?
Quote:

Taxis and rideshares

Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle.

Last updated:4 May 2022

What did FD call you?
Quote:

Greg is a habitual liar.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

So the QLD government realised making people wear masks while alone in a car was BS? Imagine the outrage if a Liberal government tried pushing that BS.

Mask mandates were BS we have a clear example of this BS here. Roll Eyes

I clearly remember this stupid ruling.
There were some really stupid people on power trips making up the stupidest rules.

One positive was that it made it easy to identify the stupid people. Wink

Most normal people that still have the capacity to think for themselves rather than be brainwashed by idiots, just ignored the idiots.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #181 - May 28^th, 2022 at 7:16am

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Wow…. Very interesting

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #182 - May 28^th, 2022 at 7:34am

Captain Caveman wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 4:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 12:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice (from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

From their website:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

Both logical and rational.

It was on Queensland health Facebook page 9th Jan 2021
https://www.facebook.com/QLDHealth/photos/3665184033589652/

Nice deflection what is the date on your link which isn't the link where this was posted?
Quote:

Taxis and rideshares

Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle.

Last updated:4 May 2022

What did FD call you?
Quote:

Greg is a habitual liar.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

So the QLD government realised making people wear masks while alone in a car was BS? Imagine the outrage if a Liberal government tried pushing that BS.

Mask mandates were BS we have a clear example of this BS here. Roll Eyes

I clearly remember this stupid ruling.
There were some really stupid people on power trips making up the stupidest rules.

One positive was that it made it easy to identify the stupid people. Wink

Most normal people that still have the capacity to think for themselves rather than be brainwashed by idiots, just ignored the idiots.

Speaking of idiots - I remember last year while standing outside a coffee shop waiting for my order - fair enough, more fresh air outside anyways…

There were also a group of old folks who had their order and were standing around talking to each other while drinking their coffee….

Next thing this car pulls in, in front of us …

Then BANG!!!!!!

He shut the door on his POS car so hard the windows nearly break and everyone gets a scare…
The guy looks as cranky as a cut snake 🐍

Some of them nervously laugh then he goes into a tirade about … “the rules” .. and starts telling them not to hang around… “YOU’VE GOT YOUR COFFEE NOW PISS OFF!!”…

WOW 😮…..

Like these old folks built this country with their own sweat, blood and tears… they’ve lived through famine and sicknesses without any medical intervention and now this utter moron is spraying about “THE RULES”

WELL.. that was it for me… I told him to shut his hole and where he could put his “RULES”… and the coward walked off…

But i don’t blame him as much as i do the traitorous governments who initiated this sort of behaviour putting one part of society against another…

They need to be put up against a wall in shot IMO…

This is what Germany did to the Jews in WWII…. Put one side of the nation against the others ..

But have we learnt from history??

The same people “who said” that they were utterly disgusted of the treatment of the Jews are the same ones now who are treating one part of the population like they are second class citizens…

These people are your modern day Nazi’s…

And all they needed was a “tiny” bit of encouragement from the traitorous governments to bring out their inner leftwing Nazi…

Remember this people and remember who they are going forwards…

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #183 - May 28^th, 2022 at 7:42am

BTW…

The same people are also the Gun Grabbers…

If you haven’t already - get your licence and also learn to treat yourself with Natural Medicines like we have been talking about in this thread…

We all know that the Medical fraternity was hijacked by the Rockefellers …

They made synthetic Medicines that mimicked Natural Remedies and then alienated Natural Medicine as Quackery ….

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #184 - May 28^th, 2022 at 12:40pm

Captain Caveman wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 4:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 12:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice (from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

From their website:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

Both logical and rational.

It was on Queensland health Facebook page 9th Jan 2021
https://www.facebook.com/QLDHealth/photos/3665184033589652/

Nice deflection what is the date on your link which isn't the link where this was posted?
Quote:

Taxis and rideshares

Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle.

Last updated:4 May 2022

What did FD call you?
Quote:

Greg is a habitual liar.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

So the QLD government realised making people wear masks while alone in a car was BS? Imagine the outrage if a Liberal government tried pushing that BS.

Mask mandates were BS we have a clear example of this BS here. Roll Eyes

I clearly remember this stupid ruling.
There were some really stupid people on power trips making up the stupidest rules.

One positive was that it made it easy to identify the stupid people. Wink

Most normal people that still have the capacity to think for themselves rather than be brainwashed by idiots, just ignored the idiots.

Yes! I just remembered it! We were in Qld on the outskirts of Brisbane. We had to drive through Brisbane and I phoned the Rona hotline to ask if we had to wear masks in the car going through and out of Brisbane.
The answer was yes… and no…. If we kept driving through/into Brisbane and not stopping… masks didn’t have to be worn in the car while driving… but…
If you are driving into Brisbane and will stop in the area… then yes you had to wear a mask in the car while driving.

I think I recall something about how the virus outside…could go through the air vent and into the car ….

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #185 - May 28^th, 2022 at 12:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 12:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice (from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

From their website:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

Both logical and rational.

It was on Queensland health Facebook page 9th Jan 2021
https://www.facebook.com/QLDHealth/photos/3665184033589652/

Facebook

From the official website, 4 May 2022:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137136 Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #186 - May 28^th, 2022 at 12:46pm SerialBrain9 wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:42am: BTW… The same people are also the Gun Grabbers…
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #187 - May 29^th, 2022 at 7:32pm

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Original article peer-reviewed

Correlation Between Mask Compliance and COVID-19 Outcomes in Europe

Abstract

Masking was the single most common non-pharmaceutical intervention in the course of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. Most countries have implemented recommendations or mandates regarding the use of masks in public spaces. The aim of this short study was to analyse the correlation between mask usage against morbidity and mortality rates in the 2020-2021 winter in Europe. Data from 35 European countries on morbidity, mortality, and mask usage during a six-month period were analysed and crossed. These findings indicate that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage.

Discussion

Mask mandates were implemented in almost all world countries and in most places where masks were not obligatory, their use in public spaces was recommended [12].

These mandates and recommendations took place despite the fact that most randomised controlled trials carried out before and during the COVID-19 pandemic concluded that the role of masks in preventing respiratory viral transmission was small, null, or inconclusive [1,2,14,15]

The findings presented in this short communication suggest that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage in the six-month period that encompassed the second European wave of COVID-19.

Conclusions

While no cause-effect conclusions could be inferred from this observational analysis, the lack of negative correlations between mask usage and COVID-19 cases and deaths suggest that the widespread use of masks at a time when an effective intervention was most needed, i.e., during the strong 2020-2021 autumn-winter peak, was not able to reduce COVID-19 transmission.Moreover, the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-co...

Masks don't work with aerosols.

Does anyone want to try to spin this bit which says masks caused more deaths? Moreover, the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe

Easy to see who follows the political science (art of fluent bullshit) and those who follow real science.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #189 - Jun 3^rd, 2022 at 10:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on May 29^th, 2022 at 7:32pm:

Quote:

Original article peer-reviewed

Correlation Between Mask Compliance and COVID-19 Outcomes in Europe

Abstract

Masking was the single most common non-pharmaceutical intervention in the course of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. Most countries have implemented recommendations or mandates regarding the use of masks in public spaces. The aim of this short study was to analyse the correlation between mask usage against morbidity and mortality rates in the 2020-2021 winter in Europe. Data from 35 European countries on morbidity, mortality, and mask usage during a six-month period were analysed and crossed. These findings indicate that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage.

Discussion

Mask mandates were implemented in almost all world countries and in most places where masks were not obligatory, their use in public spaces was recommended [12].

These mandates and recommendations took place despite the fact that most randomised controlled trials carried out before and during the COVID-19 pandemic concluded that the role of masks in preventing respiratory viral transmission was small, null, or inconclusive [1,2,14,15]

The findings presented in this short communication suggest that countries with high levels of mask compliance did not perform better than those with low mask usage in the six-month period that encompassed the second European wave of COVID-19.

Conclusions

While no cause-effect conclusions could be inferred from this observational analysis, the lack of negative correlations between mask usage and COVID-19 cases and deaths suggest that the widespread use of masks at a time when an effective intervention was most needed, i.e., during the strong 2020-2021 autumn-winter peak, was not able to reduce COVID-19 transmission.Moreover, the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-co...

Masks don't work with aerosols.

Did it hurt?

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #190 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 6:00am

The cited report from Beny Spira was obviously flawed in that it
only referenced countries in Western and Eastern Europe. The
majority of those countries share a contiguous land-mass border.

The fact that Spira failed to investigate and/or produce data for
the UK, the US, Australia or New Zealand, nor any Asian countries
distorts the already questionable conclusions he presents. This is
one man with a single small study. Hardly statistically significant.

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While no cause-effect conclusions could be inferred from this observational analysis,
the lack of negative correlations between mask usage and COVID-19 cases and deaths
suggest that the widespread use of masks at a time when an effective intervention
was most needed, i.e., during the strong 2020-2021 autumn-winter peak, was not
able to reduce COVID-19 transmission.

So... no valid conclusion, and only a "suggestion" of the validity of
his research results. Maybe Spira should've included a country like
Australia, where mandatory mask wearing was introduced early, and
where the COVID death rates were one of the lowest on the planet.
But then that wouldn't have suited his deliberately skewed results
would it?

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #192 - Jun 5^th, 2022 at 12:42pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment MEME
above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice

purporting to be

(from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

Why DO
conspiracy theorists
post
mindless MEMES

- and attempt to pass them off as
"news"
or
"official documentation"
?

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #193 - Jun 5^th, 2022 at 12:55pm

Captain Caveman wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 4:58am:

[quote author=Baronvonrort link=1650450480/179#179 date=1653661058]

I clearly remember this stupid ruling.
There were some really stupid people on power trips making up the stupidest rules.

I've stopped listening to the epidemiologists and immunologists as well, on COVID19 news and precautions

That's why I'm putting all my trust with clodhoppers in internet chat rooms

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #194 - Jun 6^th, 2022 at 10:57am

SerialBrain9 wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 7:34am:

Captain Caveman wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 4:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2022 at 12:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 10:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 27^th, 2022 at 9:57am:

I'd like Greggary to look at the attachment above. And to tell us all if he regards the advice (from Queensland Health) is logical and rational.

From their website:

"Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle."

Both logical and rational.

It was on Queensland health Facebook page 9th Jan 2021
https://www.facebook.com/QLDHealth/photos/3665184033589652/

Nice deflection what is the date on your link which isn't the link where this was posted?
Quote:

Taxis and rideshares

Masks must be worn at all times by both driver and passenger, unless the driver is alone in the vehicle.

Last updated:4 May 2022

What did FD call you?
Quote:

Greg is a habitual liar.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1648075255/26#26

So the QLD government realised making people wear masks while alone in a car was BS? Imagine the outrage if a Liberal government tried pushing that BS.

Mask mandates were BS we have a clear example of this BS here. Roll Eyes

I clearly remember this stupid ruling.
There were some really stupid people on power trips making up the stupidest rules.

One positive was that it made it easy to identify the stupid people. Wink

Most normal people that still have the capacity to think for themselves rather than be brainwashed by idiots, just ignored the idiots.

Speaking of idiots - I remember last year while standing outside a coffee shop waiting for my order - fair enough, more fresh air outside anyways…

There were also a group of old folks who had their order and were standing around talking to each other while drinking their coffee….

Next thing this car pulls in, in front of us …

Then BANG!!!!!!

He shut the door on his POS car so hard the windows nearly break and everyone gets a scare…
The guy looks as cranky as a cut snake 🐍

Some of them nervously laugh then he goes into a tirade about … “the rules” .. and starts telling them not to hang around… “YOU’VE GOT YOUR COFFEE NOW PISS OFF!!”…

WOW 😮…..

Like these old folks built this country with their own sweat, blood and tears… they’ve lived through famine and sicknesses without any medical intervention and now this utter moron is spraying about “THE RULES”

WELL.. that was it for me… I told him to shut his hole and where he could put his “RULES”… and the coward walked off…

But i don’t blame him as much as i do the traitorous governments who initiated this sort of behaviour putting one part of society against another…

They need to be put up against a wall in shot IMO…

This is what Germany did to the Jews in WWII…. Put one side of the nation against the others ..

But have we learnt from history??

The same people “who said” that they were utterly disgusted of the treatment of the Jews are the same ones now who are treating one part of the population like they are second class citizens…

These people are your modern day Nazi’s…

And all they needed was a “tiny” bit of encouragement from the traitorous governments to bring out their inner leftwing Nazi…

Remember this people and remember who they are going forwards…

Couldn't agree more brother.

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