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Reply #225 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 5:50pm
 
COVID enforcers must be held accountable: Rita Panahi

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Sky News host Rita Panahi says there needs to be a “reckoning” for the Victorian police as they try to rebuild their image following Melbourne's lockdowns and protests.

“Victoria Police is again trying to rebuild their image after enthusiastically serving as Dan Andrews covid enforcers for two years,” she said

“Where they terrorised pregnant women for Facebook posts, harassed little old ladies on park benches and shot scores of protesters with non-lethal rounds.”

Ms Panahi said, “Chief Shane Patton says he is bruised by the work his force had to do during COVID lockdowns”.

“PR campaigns and sob stories about feeling bruised from police command are no substitute for accountability,” Ms Panahi said



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Reply #226 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 5:51pm
 
Today is the one year anniversary of the Victorian Government deciding
to go full NWO on their people.


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Reply #227 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 7:08am:
If you want to wear a properly fitting n95 mask
Which is quite uncomfortable
Then you will reduce transmission

I can't really see why you would want to
When kovid now exists from Antarctica to the top of mount Everest
You are going to be exposed no matter what

If delaying exposure is important for you then go for it

But unless you are an insane cretin
Use that time to work on your weight
Your physical fitness and your nutrition

If you just want to rely on a mask or indeed a vaccine as keeping you safe
You have a very poor understanding of health


The exact thing that a lot of dead people said.
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Reply #228 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 11:14pm:
Today is the one year anniversary of the Victorian Government deciding
to go full NWO on their people.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/116/449/871/original/69f0c5...


Looks like a successful test, no masks no protection against pepper spray. The flags didn't help either.

Not wearing a mask seems to make people more susceptible to strangulation.

No matching mask for your PJ's is problematic.
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Reply #229 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 11:14pm:
Today is the one year anniversary of the Victorian Government deciding
to go full NWO on their people.


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/116/449/871/original/69f0c5...


Looks like a successful test, no masks no protection against pepper spray. The flags didn't help either.

Not wearing a mask seems to make people more susceptible to strangulation.

No matching mask for you PJ's is problematic.



Dan's Gestapo got away with anything - even strangling young women.
Was that a new method they taught in training?
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Reply #230 - Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:18pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 7:08am:
If you want to wear a properly fitting n95 mask
Which is quite uncomfortable
Then you will reduce transmission

I can't really see why you would want to
When kovid now exists from Antarctica to the top of mount Everest
You are going to be exposed no matter what

If delaying exposure is important for you then go for it

But unless you are an insane cretin
Use that time to work on your weight
Your physical fitness and your nutrition

If you just want to rely on a mask or indeed a vaccine as keeping you safe
You have a very poor understanding of health


The exact thing that a lot of dead people said.


Sadly, scoot's not one of them.

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Reply #231 - Oct 17th, 2022 at 8:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 7:08am:
If you want to wear a properly fitting n95 mask
Which is quite uncomfortable
Then you will reduce transmission

I can't really see why you would want to
When kovid now exists from Antarctica to the top of mount Everest
You are going to be exposed no matter what

If delaying exposure is important for you then go for it

But unless you are an insane cretin
Use that time to work on your weight
Your physical fitness and your nutrition

If you just want to rely on a mask or indeed a vaccine as keeping you safe
You have a very poor understanding of health


The exact thing that a lot of dead people said.


Sadly, scoot's not one of them.


What a vile, stinking piece of turd you are, regretting that someone is not dead.
You despicable, evil little pimple.
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Reply #232 - Oct 17th, 2022 at 11:22am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 8:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2022 at 7:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 7:08am:
If you want to wear a properly fitting n95 mask
Which is quite uncomfortable
Then you will reduce transmission

I can't really see why you would want to
When kovid now exists from Antarctica to the top of mount Everest
You are going to be exposed no matter what

If delaying exposure is important for you then go for it

But unless you are an insane cretin
Use that time to work on your weight
Your physical fitness and your nutrition

If you just want to rely on a mask or indeed a vaccine as keeping you safe
You have a very poor understanding of health


The exact thing that a lot of dead people said.


Sadly, scoot's not one of them.


What a vile, stinking piece of turd you are, regretting that someone is not dead.
You despicable, evil little pimple.


Did you take that literally?

Scoot is a good egg - Badly misguided is all.
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Reply #233 - Oct 17th, 2022 at 11:31am
 
Quote:
Mask mandates didn't do anything


Considering that all the data shows that the deaths may have been 10 times greater without them I suspect that you are wrong.

In all the countries that took no action the amount of people who died was much greater.

Even in Australia the amount of covid deaths has steeply increased from the day that the mandate for masks was removed.

back before the Mandate was removed the Australian average per week death rate was zero with some weeks of one.

The Current death rate on the 14th was 29 deaths that day with a weekly average of 15.

The difference is Masks and distancing.

Australia was going along with three or four thousand deaths before we opened up again, we are now at 15,000 deaths.

That is a 400% increase in covid deaths since we re opened, since we removed the mask mandate.

Nobody seems to care.

It seems strange that if mask mandates did nothing then why did the deaths start to increase the day that the mandate was removed?
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Reply #234 - Oct 17th, 2022 at 12:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 11:31am:
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Mask mandates didn't do anything


Considering that all the data shows that the deaths may have been 10 times greater without them I suspect that you are wrong.

In all the countries that took no action the amount of people who died was much greater.

Even in Australia the amount of covid deaths has steeply increased from the day that the mandate for masks was removed.

back before the Mandate was removed the Australian average per week death rate was zero with some weeks of one.

The Current death rate on the 14th was 29 deaths that day with a weekly average of 15.

The difference is Masks and distancing.

Australia was going along with three or four thousand deaths before we opened up again, we are now at 15,000 deaths.

That is a 400% increase in covid deaths since we re opened, since we removed the mask mandate.

Nobody seems to care.

It seems strange that if mask mandates did nothing then why did the deaths start to increase the day that the mandate was removed?


Oh, so it's the masks and distancing, not the vaccination rate.   And if the vaccine was only meant to prevent getting very sick and dying, and not prevent transmission, as the covidistas now claim, why were the unvaccinated excluded from public places?



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Reply #235 - Oct 17th, 2022 at 1:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 11:31am:
Quote:
Mask mandates didn't do anything


Considering that all the data shows that the deaths may have been 10 times greater without them I suspect that you are wrong.

In all the countries that took no action the amount of people who died was much greater.

Even in Australia the amount of covid deaths has steeply increased from the day that the mandate for masks was removed.

back before the Mandate was removed the Australian average per week death rate was zero with some weeks of one.

The Current death rate on the 14th was 29 deaths that day with a weekly average of 15.

The difference is Masks and distancing.

Australia was going along with three or four thousand deaths before we opened up again, we are now at 15,000 deaths.

That is a 400% increase in covid deaths since we re opened, since we removed the mask mandate.

Nobody seems to care.

It seems strange that if mask mandates did nothing then why did the deaths start to increase the day that the mandate was removed?


Oh, so it's the masks and distancing, not the vaccination rate.   And if the vaccine was only meant to prevent getting very sick and dying, and not prevent transmission, as the covidistas now claim, why were the unvaccinated excluded from public places?





For this discussion vaccines are not the variable. People had vaccines both before and after the masks and distancing were removed. Yes the mask removal would have gone a lot worse without the Vaccine numbers.

The vaccine was designed to combat the original covid virus. It is less effective against the later iterations of it and this is typical of the relationship between a virus and its vaccine. This is the reason that there is a different flu vaccine every year.

As a virus mutates into a different form there needs to be a new vaccine to target that new version of the virus. The old vaccine will be less effective. This is what we have been seeing. The old vaccine is effectively trying to combat a virus it isn't designed to deal with so there is still some benefit but it isn't as effective as a vaccine specifically designed for the current iteration of the virus.
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Reply #236 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 8:55am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 12:14pm:
Oh, so it's the masks and distancing, not the vaccination rate.
   




As with ANY contagious disease,
the more individual protections taken

- the greater the OVERALL protective outcome



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Reply #237 - Oct 21st, 2022 at 4:22pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 17th, 2022 at 11:31am:
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Mask mandates didn't do anything


Considering that all the data shows that the deaths may have been 10 times greater without them I suspect that you are wrong.

In all the countries that took no action the amount of people who died was much greater.

Even in Australia the amount of covid deaths has steeply increased from the day that the mandate for masks was removed.

back before the Mandate was removed the Australian average per week death rate was zero with some weeks of one.

The Current death rate on the 14th was 29 deaths that day with a weekly average of 15.

The difference is Masks and distancing.

Australia was going along with three or four thousand deaths before we opened up again, we are now at 15,000 deaths.

That is a 400% increase in covid deaths since we re opened, since we removed the mask mandate.

Nobody seems to care.

It seems strange that if mask mandates did nothing then why did the deaths start to increase the day that the mandate was removed?


As of 25th Jan. 2020-20th Oct.2022(999 days), there have been 10.3M cases and 15.5K Australians dying from/with Covid-19. If we assume that everyone died ONLY because of the virus(no other comorbidities), that would still be a mortality rate of 0.15%. Or, a 99.85% survival rate.

This also means that on average, 15.5 people have died from/with Covid-19 in Australia, each day since the beginning of this pandemic. This represents only 0.00006% of the Australian population each day. By the end of March(2020) there were only 34 deaths(5,687 cases). Before vaccines were available(Feb22, 2021), there were 999 deaths(28,930 cases). So what do these stats tell me?

Between Jan 2020 and the end of March(before lockdowns and mandates), there were fewer cases and deaths. Between the end of March until Feb 2021(before vaccines, but with mandates), there was 29 times more people dying, and 5 times more cases. After vaccines were introduced(and up to today), there was 15.5 times more people dying, and 356 times more cases. Clearly man is not stopping the spread of this virus.

Conclusion? We were better off sticking to educating the public, ,and simply treating the disease. Instead of trying to destroy our own country. This virus is less lethal than the Measles. It has a survival rate of over 98%. And a mortality rate that has never been above 0.1%. The only thing that matters is the condition of our immune system. There is nothing that man can do, that will stop anyone from being infected by any virus. NO vaccine can prevent any virus from entering your body. 

Unless masks are tailor-made to fit your face perfectly(or taped), it can't seal your eyes and nose. You can breathe through the sides of the mask. Plus the virus can also enter your eyes. People also take off their masks to eat and drink. Viral particles can linger in the air for up to an hour, and on surfaces for even longer.



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Reply #239 - Oct 21st, 2022 at 8:36pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on Oct 21st, 2022 at 8:21pm:
If anyone is responding. I can't see the posts. All I'm receiving are notifications. This is becoming frustrating!


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