Hi Dnarever. Let me address your points. Although, they do sound more like parroted platitudes and media soundbites, than informed opinions. IMHO
Dnarever wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:32am:
Yes its an addition affect - nobody who is dead will become undead.
I certainly agree that these numbers of deaths are the accumulative totals over the past 1,003 days(25Jan.,20-24Oct.,22). Of course this total represents an average of 15.5 people(out of 26M) dying from/with covid-19 each day. This represents just 0.00006% of our population each day. At the risk of being callous and insensitive, these numbers are just too small to justify our sledgehammer response to this level of threat. We almost destroyed our own country and our own people.
Does this additive concept extend to the number of cases reported as well? Remember, these numbers also include the people who have only tested positive for the virus(not the disease). But lets ignore this for the moment. There are 10.3M total covid-19 cases today. This represents a daily average of 10,269 cases since day one. This represents only 0.04% of our population per day. Clearly the overwhelming majority of our population, was NOT infected over this entire 1,003 day period. Yet some people claim that almost 40% of the Australian population is infected. Aren't they aware of this additive concept?
Before vaccines were available, there were 28,947 cases reported over the 397 day period. This represents a daily average of 73 cases being reported each day. That's 140X less than the daily average over the entire period. This represents only 0.0003% of the population being infected each day. This was before vaccines. Again, not worth this level of panic.
Dnarever wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:32am:
Pre Vaccines the virus struggled to get a hold because of Lock Downs, Distancing and masks. Places in the world who didn't do this or were too late were in a heap of trouble and ten's of thousands if not more died.
I really think that you're just rationalizing what you really want to believe as being true. The rest is just more parroted media soundbites, and disinformation by omission. I'm afraid that the facts just don't support your beliefs.
No matter how much you try to make the facts fit your beliefs, they will never fit. More deaths and cases DID occur AFTER all the medical protocols were in place. In fact, many times more deaths and cases.
If you believe that a virus is sentient, and couldn't maneuver through any restriction protocols, then we have a very different understand of what a microorganism can and cannot do.
Dnarever wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:44am:
Nobody ever said that the protocols were perfect. Virtually every outbreak was caused by people breaking the rules.
This is the same copout excuse the government uses to maintain its win-win integrity. It certainly is NOT perfect. In fact, it is laughable and immature. Does any rational mind think that you can get 26M people to keep 2 meters apart? Or, wear a mask 24/7? Or, would passively accept sticking a poison into their body? Or, would voluntarily change their lifestyle, under legal duress? All because of a flu virus no more lethal than the measles or Hepatitis A.
Dnarever wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:44am:
As you say above we had about 999 deaths pre vaccine and their loved ones would have been very upset. However the point here is that the places where there was no lockdown or it was done too late tens of thousands died at best. The US did it badly and over a million people died.
What this means is that a lot more people have living loved ones than would have been the case.
You are again simply rationalizing what you want to be true. Every time you speculate what could be true, it also means what could also NOT be true, right? In reality, almost 16X more people have died, and over 350X more cases have been reported after vaccines were available.
No amount of convoluted logic can rationalize these facts away. This was a media circus from the very beginning. Unfortunately, there are far too many right-brain dominant people, who are genetically predisposed to this level of media pathos. And, I really don't think that the public safety was very high on the government's list of priorities.
Dnarever wrote on Oct 24
th, 2022 at 12:44am:
They caught covid and it killed them is the why. I don't see the cause of death as the important bit, minimising the number of deaths is the valuable part.
Viruses do NOT kill their hosts. It is our immune response to the pathogen that can kill us. Considering the fact that over 98% of all victims recover, this makes this level of fear almost borderline phobic.
Anyway. I have a feeling that this will just become another rabbit hole to fall into. Unless you want to focus only on the points I've raised(I will list them if you want), instead of just parroting more of the same media soundbites and disinformation, I think we should just agree to disagree.
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