Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 26^th, 2022 at 11:57pm:

Citation please.

Face masks can filter small airborne particles, including respiratory droplets, and are effective at reducing the spread of COVID-19.

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Politicians give a perception they're doing something many believe their bullshit without questioning it.

You have been brainwashed for over 2 years into believing face masks work.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 27^th, 2022 at 10:00pm:

LOL... just as you've been brainwashed into believing they
don't by the anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists maybe???

Or are you somehow impervious to brainwashing?

BTW, these images...



...refer specifically to these masks.



You seem to be confused by the adequacy of surgical masks
in comparison to the better performance of fitted N95 masks.

Disregard!

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 2:49am:


Since I can't deposit any internet sites yet, you can type in,

"Mask works best? We filmed people coughing and sneezing to find out".

Remember, the particles that you see coming out are the visible droplets mixed with dust particles, and other airborne pollutants. We can't see the viruses. They are just too small to be seen. But we can measure the viral load. And estimate the amounts of viruses being expectorated. Other experiments have collected the expectorants, and counted the number viruses. Remember, it only takes about 100 viruses to infect a human. And, NO MASK CLAIMS TO BE 100% EFFECTIVE.

Regarding asymptomatic carriers, I disagree. Although the evidence DOES suggest, that PRE-SYMPTOMATIC carriers(around 2 days before the onset of symptoms) can shed this virus. Which can become airborne, or can be transferred to different surfaces.

But there is no verifiable, or reproducible evidence to suggest that ASYMPTOMATIC carriers(no symptoms at all) can spread this virus. I have only seen assumptions, speculations, opinions, and arguments from ignorance. Plus, the claim is just too counterintuitive for me.

But if you understand the life-cycle of a virus, then you would know, that all viruses need their host's  immune response system, to spread itself to a new host. Viruses don't  just jump onto a host that happens to be within 6 feet of them.

Therefore, no immune response, no symptoms, no transmission of the virus. I also agree that since nature is not perfect, there may be a few exceptions to this. But these exceptions are NOT the rule.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 2:49am:


Some are. But most aren't. The professionals working in the healthcare industry, are more than twice as likely of becoming infected. I'm afraid that the earliest  stats I could find were in Feb of 2021. At that time, there were 90/100K healthcare workers infected(23.4K). To 34/100K of the general population infected(8.8K). That's over 2 times the risk of infections.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 2:49am:


I think you have a  misunderstanding of both,  the "Infection Mortality Rate"(which is falling), and the "Case Mortality Rate"(also decreasing). Neither depends exclusively, on the total number of deaths with/from the disease. Their rates are determined by  the number of deaths by a disease divided by the number of confirmed cases of the disease.

Lets say you have a global disease where only 100 people are infected. But, 100 people die from the disease. This would be a disease with a mortality rate of 100%. And, a survivability rate of 0%. Now, compare this to a global disease(Covid-19) that has infected 629M people, and 6.58M have died with/from the disease. This is a disease with a mortality rate of 1%(the measles is 1-3%). And, a survivability rate of 99%.

As you can see, the number of deaths is NOT the relevant factor alone. I think given the choice of being infected with Rabies(100% fatal), Ebola(90% fatal), or Cov-19(1% fatal), my choice would be a no-brainer. The mortality rate of a disease, is the RATE in which a disease kills people. NOT, the total number of people the disease kills. 

Johnnie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 5:41pm:


I think the introduction of mandates for THIS virus was an unscientific knee-jerk reaction, to a virus no more lethal than the measles. Although, this mandate did  highlight Australia on the world stage. And, NOT in a good way.

The only thing that forced mandates had demonstrated, was just how apathetic, gullible, and submissive Australians can be. We let the government suspend our individual right, to decide what we can put on/into our body. We then allowed the government to suspend our freedom of movement in our own country. The government only needed to create whatever medical emergency it wanted, and let its media do the rest.

Our freedoms were suspended by force, threats, coercion, and by shaming people into shoving whatever the government wants into their body. Even controlling and monitoring our movements and behavior, was never considered an intrusion. It was Jab or job, or mask or fine/prison?

This is unacceptable, and opens the door to a very dangerous slippery slope. Fortunately, thousands of Australians began seeing through what wasn't being said. As well as seeing the damage that these mandates were doing to their country.

But you are correct, people should NOT cough or sneeze in each others face. And, they should always wash their hands. Unfortunately, it is impossible to not stand too close to each other, all the time. But, with around 3T pathogens already in the body, I don't think it really matters that much. 

Found a good use for a mask today. Got out of the car in a street lined with plane trees which were dropping their fuzz everywhere. Everyone was coughing up furballs but the mask protected me. At least they work for something.

They even look like corona viruses!

Gordon wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 7:53pm:


I strongly suspect it isn't the plane trees causing it.

I see people from around Australia commenting daily on Twitter about the almost constant 'chorus of coughing' they hear in places like shopping centres these days - sounds like some of them are coughing up a lung.

I've even heard it myself a few times when I'm shopping. Thank goodness I'm still one of the few who didn't fall for the "pandemic is over, no need to wear a mask anymore" BS from our pathetic Federal and State governments (and the media, of course).