ShellShilo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

No problem:  We filmed people coughing and sneezing to find out

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 2:49am:

ShellShilo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

I was referring to raw numbers, rather than pro rata.

—And thank you for your considered input.  It makes a welcome
change in comparison to so much of the absolute bullshit posted
here about COVID and its vaccines, by a raft of conspiracy theorists.

         

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 2:34am:


Hey Dopey. Still pretending to be a scientist I see, quoting numbers and facts from newspapers and websites, thinking you are an expert. Your vax side effect is coming soon. The XBB variant is here so go get your next booster along with the ass fairy and Karl Dunce.

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 9:56pm:


Rubbish. The little fury floaty bits go right into your airway and cause an instant cough.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 2:34am:


I think you can see the false analogy and equivalence in making these comparisons. We have laws that tell people not to murder anyone. Does this mean we should also follow laws that tell us how we should  dress, or what we should eat?

I am against the Covid-19 mandates because they are NOT VOLUNTARY. This would open the door for even more stringent mandates, and more government intrusions into my privacy. We saw this happening, in the form of lockdowns, fines and arrests, curfews, border closures, turning Australians into a nation of dobbers, locator apps, Covid-19 ID cards and passports, and the closures of small businesses.

Wearing seatbelts and helmets, are both supported by established scientific causal links. The physics is sound and easily verifiable. The science supporting the rules for speeding and drink driving, is also sound and verifiable.

But, it is my commonsense that tells me to comply with these mechanical mandates. Because they will prevent death and serious injuries. This is NOT Authoritarianism. This is the government's duty of care.

But there is NO verifiable, reproducible causal links, that can demonstrate that wearing masks, distancing, or even being vaccinated, WILL prevent anyone from becoming infected, transmitting, or even dying from this virus. In fact, the stats have proven the opposite. It was a not-so-well thought out knee-jerk reaction, by children in power. They too, became the victims of their own disinformation narrative/rhetoric. They became image-orientated, rather than society-orientated.

They were willing to go to any lengths, to stop a microorganism smaller than the visible spectrum of light. This fight was lost from the very beginning. But the media kept telling you that it could be won. They lied. This fight has always been between our immune system, and the pathogen. Vaccinated or not.

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 12:11pm:


Every time I hear, "It's for the greater good", I begin to cringe. It can mean anything you want it to mean. It is just another meaningless political soundbite like, "National security", or "In the public interest", or, "A viable threat", or, "In our national interests". All are meaningless expressions that sound meaningful. They are called "Deepities", coined by Dennett.

I agree that our personal sovereignty is not absolute. But a virus less lethal than the measles, does NOT justify these draconian mandates. Maybe for an Ebola epidemic, or even a war. But not for a flu virus. The motives of the government are irrelevant. Only their actions are relevant.

reggie1963 wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 12:11pm:


This is an argument from ignorance. We could see what the mortality rate was, even back then. We could see that the media was only spreading fear and anxiety. They blanketed the airway with deaths, number of infected, and the dangers of hospitals becoming overrun(none were). All lies and disinformation by omitting context and perspective.

This was a simply psychological maneuver by the government's media. People will believe anything. Just as long as you keep it simple, short, and repeat it often enough. And, it worked.

Unfortunately, the stats did not support the hype. And the backpedaling started. Eventually, the cracks became obvious. Think about it. If you had never heard of Covid-19 in the last 3 years, and there were no mandates, what changes would you have noticed different in your life? More people in your life dying from this virus?

It is best to just suck it up, and learn from this experience.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 28^th, 2022 at 2:49am:


As ShellShilo pointed out you can contract covid through mucuos membranes in your eyes. Try google for covid eye protection.

This is another reason why mask mandates were totally useless the number of health care workers who were infected before eye protection for them became mandatory shows mask mandates were bullshit the gullible lapped up hook line and sinker.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 11:15pm:

Nobody is disputing this fact.  But in effect, what you're saying means that
even by wearing a mask to reduce airborne infection you're wasting your
time—which is demonstrably erroneous.  The other obvious point you've
ignored of course is that you don't sneeze or cough through your eyes (LOL)
so if you are infected, the only way you can directly transmit the virus to
others is via your nose or mouth.  Hence the wearing of a mask.

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 11:15pm:

Sorry, but this is a truly feeble argument based on suspect logic.

How can you claim that people who wore masks were gullible?  And how is
it that the anti-mask brigade were—somehow—absent that alleged gullibility?

Are the unmasked more scientifically literate?  Or are all the mask wearers
mentally challenged?  In other words, what exactly determines an individual's
gullibility factor.      Please let me know.

ShellShilo wrote on Oct 29^th, 2022 at 12:17am:


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You also get the choice of being prosecuted if your choice kills other people.