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Carl D Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 9455 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #420 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:27pm "Unattractive people are MORE likely to keep wearing face masks in post-Covid era, study suggests" Oh, and this also apparently proves the age old adage that some folks get the brains while others get looks.
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #421 - Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:53pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 10:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2023 at 4:52pm:

masks didnt do anything

except poison the planet

A lot of people (myself included) would like to know why masks are treated like poison in Australia?

I have always been against surgical masks because they don't work with viruses. They are used to prevent bacterial infections.

I am on record in this forum saying it's N95 minimum after looking at the evidence i was wrong. At best a N95 is 1% better than surgical masks which don't work. Like anything in science when it's proven not to work you have to adopt the truth which i have done with masks, they don't work.

Many in this forum are like the flat earthers who refuse to accept the evidence and stick with outdated wrong beliefs.

Those who work with Covid need BSL- 3 protection. You're not going to find any BSL3 masks in Woolies Coles Chemists or Bunnings. They don't use N95s in BSL3 Labs because they don't work.

If you want to wear a mask go for it it shows everyone you refuse to accept they don't work. Don't force your Branch Covidian religion on me with forcing people to wear something that doesn't work

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #422 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:07am

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:53pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 10:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2023 at 4:52pm:

masks didnt do anything

except poison the planet

A lot of people (myself included) would like to know why masks are treated like poison in Australia?

I have always been against surgical masks because they don't work with viruses.

Who to believe - an uneducated internet troll, or medical experts? Undecided

"Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19."

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #423 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:07am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 11:53pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2023 at 10:04am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2023 at 4:52pm:

masks didnt do anything

except poison the planet

A lot of people (myself included) would like to know why masks are treated like poison in Australia?

I have always been against surgical masks because they don't work with viruses.

Who to believe - an uneducated internet troll, or medical experts? Undecided

"Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19."

What part of will not provide any protection do you fail to comprehend?

The only trolls here is you and the other idiots from Mongs manure mound

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137173 Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #424 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:13am Who to believe - an uneducated internet troll, a cardboard box, or medical experts?
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #425 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:13am:

Who to believe - an uneducated internet troll, a cardboard box, or medical experts?

These experts posted a study on 23rd January 2023 saying masks don't work

Did you miss this post because you're an uneducated stupid troll?
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1650450480/410#410

Once upon a time scientists thought the earth was flat, you're just like a flat earther who refuses to look at the evidence.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137173 Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #426 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 12:23am Who to believe - an uneducated internet troll, a cardboard box, or medical experts?
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #427 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 5:41am

i presume gweggy will accept hospitals as places of medical expertise.

my wife works in one.

no masks for over 3 months.

despite record numbers of covid infections.

no routine testing.

hand washing is to prevent the spread of vancomycin resistant staph aureus.

why is gweegy such a silly billy .

and he says he visits his mum in hospital all the time (in between buying multiple cups of coffee for homeless people ) so he should be aware of these "facts".

maybe a bit less time thinking about joe rogans or donald trumps genitals and a bit more time getting out of the basement Roll Eyes

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #428 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 8:49am

Even Channel 10's The Project (which, if it wasn't such a TV 'icon' would have been off the air years ago due to steadily declining ratings and especially since the departure of long time panelists Carrie Bickmore and Peter Helliar last year) has also jumped onto the stupidity bandwagon:

Researchers Find That Attractive People Won’t Wear Masks

And, there it is again.... "post-COVID". Roll Eyes

See how they (deservedly) get 'beaten up' about that on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/theprojecttv/status/1621306486377922560

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Jane has Frilly Edges #CovidIsAirborne
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Jumping on the anti-mask bandwagon @theprojecttv
? Meanwhile hundreds of Aussies are dying from Covid every week, and thousands are developing Long Covid.

Pathetic

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Bianca Minnie
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The premise of the title there is flawed. We aren't "post-COVID"; people are just kidding themselves that we are.
If the report has any validity, I guess it tells us that people who perceive themselves to be attractive are more self-centred & less thoughtful of others.

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Polite proponent of Health & Safety 😷🍃🪟🌬💉
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POST-Covid?!!!! Where is this mythical world?

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I was saying boo urns
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One Australian dies from COVID every 27 minutes.

But yeah uh, post COVID, sure.

And finally...

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vanillamitch
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And their ratings are almost 0

Indeed.

Also, I don't know why Baron keeps posting that picture of the surgical mask with the disclaimer? We've been through this over and over during the past few years.

But, hey... whatever floats his boat, I guess?

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #429 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 8:54am

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 8:49am:

Even Channel 10's The Project (which, if it wasn't such a TV 'icon' would have been off the air years ago due to steadily declining ratings and especially since the departure of long time panelists Carrie Bickmore and Peter Helliar last year) has also jumped onto the stupidity bandwagon:

Researchers Find That Attractive People Won’t Wear Masks

And, there it is again.... "post-COVID". Roll Eyes

See how they (deservedly) get 'beaten up' about that on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/theprojecttv/status/1621306486377922560

Quote:

Jane has Frilly Edges #CovidIsAirborne
@frilly_edges
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1h
Replying to
@theprojecttv
Jumping on the anti-mask bandwagon @theprojecttv
? Meanwhile hundreds of Aussies are dying from Covid every week, and thousands are developing Long Covid.

Pathetic

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Bianca Minnie
@BiancaMinnie4
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1h
Replying to
@theprojecttv
The premise of the title there is flawed. We aren't "post-COVID"; people are just kidding themselves that we are.
If the report has any validity, I guess it tells us that people who perceive themselves to be attractive are more self-centred & less thoughtful of others.

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Polite proponent of Health & Safety 😷🍃🪟🌬💉
@emmaandollie
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@theprojecttv
POST-Covid?!!!! Where is this mythical world?

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I was saying boo urns
@bigfknsewerrat
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@theprojecttv
One Australian dies from COVID every 27 minutes.

But yeah uh, post COVID, sure.

And finally...

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vanillamitch
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Replying to
@theprojecttv
And their ratings are almost 0

Indeed.

Also, I don't know why Baron keeps posting that picture of the surgical mask with the disclaimer? We've been through this over and over during the past few years.

But, hey... whatever floats his boat, I guess?

These people are crazy:

“Our findings suggest that mask-wearing can shift from being a self-protection measure during the COVID-19 pandemic to a self-presentation tactic in the post-pandemic era.”

Post-pandemic era? WTF? Idiots!

As we enter the fourth year of living with COVID, we are all asking the predictable question: when will the pandemic be over?

To answer this question, it’s worth reminding ourselves that a pandemic involves the worldwide spread of a disease that requires an emergency response at a global level.

This week, World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus declared COVID continues to be a public health emergency of international concern.

As Ghebreyesus notes, we still face significant challenges, with high rates of transmission in many countries, the risk of a game-changing new variant ever-present, and an unknown impact of long COVID.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #430 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 9:11am

I'll try to help Baron out again.

Upgrade Your Mask for the Best Protection

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According to the ACGIH Pandemic Response Task Force, an occupational and environmental health group, N95 respirators do the best job at filtering the air you breathe.

The chart below demonstrates how face masks with a higher filtering ability do a better job at preventing the spread of coronavirus.

So, surgical (and even cloth masks) do provide some level of protection and are definitely better than no mask at all.

* This chart was prepared before Omicron and it's hundreds of "sub variants" arrived.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #431 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 10:40am

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

I'll try to help Baron out again.

Upgrade Your Mask for the Best Protection

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According to the ACGIH Pandemic Response Task Force, an occupational and environmental health group, N95 respirators do the best job at filtering the air you breathe.

The chart below demonstrates how face masks with a higher filtering ability do a better job at preventing the spread of coronavirus.

So, surgical (and even cloth masks) do provide some level of protection and are definitely better than no mask at all.

* This chart was prepared before Omicron and it's hundreds of "sub variants" arrived.

Do you have a link for that chart?

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Carl D Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 9455 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #432 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 10:42am Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 10:40am: Do you have a link for that chart? Apart from the article I've linked to, nope. I'll try to find an updated one (if there is one) later because that chart was prepared before Omicron arrived.
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #433 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 11:08am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

Carl D wrote on Feb 4^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

I'll try to help Baron out again.

Upgrade Your Mask for the Best Protection

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According to the ACGIH Pandemic Response Task Force, an occupational and environmental health group, N95 respirators do the best job at filtering the air you breathe.

The chart below demonstrates how face masks with a higher filtering ability do a better job at preventing the spread of coronavirus.

So, surgical (and even cloth masks) do provide some level of protection and are definitely better than no mask at all.

* This chart was prepared before Omicron and it's hundreds of "sub variants" arrived.

Do you have a link for that chart?

https://www.samhealth.org/about-samaritan/news-search/2022/02/10/upgrade-your-ma...

https://www.samhealth.org/-/media/SHS/Email/EM-SHS-News/AR%20180x210/masks-and-c...

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #434 - Feb 4^th, 2023 at 2:45pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2023 at 4:29pm:

There is no evidence masks work with covid.

The mask mandates were bullshit the only thing they achieved was giving the gullible a warm feeling our politicians were doing something.

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Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses

30 January 2023

Objectives

To assess the effectiveness of physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of acute respiratory viruses.

Medical/surgical masks compared to no masks
Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks

N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks
The use of a N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks probably makes little or no difference for the objective and more precise outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza infection
Restricting pooling to healthcare workers made no difference to the overall findings.

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

It's easy to see people like Greg, Carl and Dnarever have no understanding of science.

When looking at studies look at when it was published Carl, Greg and Dnarever continue to quote obsolete outdated information that has proven to be wrong. With science when something is proven to be wrong it's thrown in the rubbish and the truth is embraced.They are like flat earthers who ignore the evidence and continue to claim the earth is flat.

I highlighted the date for a reason there is no cure for their ignorance.

There was no evidence masks work with viral infections before covid and there is no evidence they work with covid.

These people spread misinformation about vax preventing infection and transmission which we know is false. It's now accepted as truth vax doesn't stop transmission or infection despite earlier claims.

When will people realise they were also wrong with masks?

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