Karnal wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:


Another Pbuggering idiot who doesn't read their links

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Your link mentions RCT which didn't exist for covid when your link was published.

We have RCT data that says Masks don't work with covid your link says this compelling evidence is sufficient.

Those who understand science go yep masks don't work when looking at RCT data.

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 3:24am:


Lets just use our common sense here. The claim being made here, is that people who wear masks in public indoor settings are LESS LIKELY, or the ODDS ARE LOWER, for them to test positive for Covid-19. Could any claim be any more vague, ambiguous, or obscure as this??

Does this mean that people wearing masks NOT in public indoor settings, ARE more likely to test positive for Covid-19? Also, since over 95% of the Australians population continue to test negative for Covid-19 anyway, I'd love to see just how this study was conducted.

There is absolutely no causal relationship between the two events. I could just as easily say that people with no facial hair are less likely to test positive to Covid-19. And, I would be right. But again, I can't explain any direct causal relationship between wearing masks, and the settings where the masks are worn. Or, not worn. I have nothing to support this unwarranted assumption!

But lets look at the scientific facts regarding the efficacy and protection claims being made by mask manufacturers. 

Firstly, the smallest SARS-CoV-2 virus is around 0.05 microns. The smallest pore size on any filtration masks is between 0.1 and 0.3 microns(2 to 5 times larger). So, you do the math!

Secondly, even the P2/N95 masks are useless if they are not worn correctly. And, no mask will ever fit perfectly on any face, all the time. Also, lets not forget that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can enter the body through the eyes(ocular mucosa).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7882915/

Finally, The droplets from a sneeze or cough, can contain as many as 200M viral particles. Even if we assume that the N95 mask will provide 95% protection from airborne viruses(which it doesn't), that would still allow around 10M viruses to pass through. It only takes a few hundred, to a thousand viruses to infect you. So, if you can find a mask with a protection level of 99.999999%(200 viruses pass through), then get it. Also, you might want to wear eye shields($195.40AUD) just to be sure.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsplastics.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F03%2FGX3-left-head-1.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsplastics.com.au%2Fshop%2Fgx3-eye-protective-face-shield-50pcs%2F&tbnid=DO0TWIQXIpK4MM&vet=10CAIQxiAoAGoXChMI-N7OgLWD_QIVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAc..i&docid=veSNyeW8GXXN5M&w=804&h=894&itg=1&q=eye%20shield&ved=0CAIQxiAoAGoXChMI-N7OgLWD_QIVAAAAAB0AAAAAEAc

https://www.clinlabnavigator.com/sars-cov-2-infectious-dose.html
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16490606/

I'm afraid this is NOT how I plan on living the rest of my life.

ShellShilo wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:05pm:

LOL... there's no such thing as "common sense" where medical procedures
are concerned.  We need replicable data from accredited research.  Which
we already have re mask wearing.  Common sense is used by the uneducated
masses in place of expertise.

ShellShilo wrote on Feb 7^th, 2023 at 11:05pm:

This tells me that you're unfamiliar with how the SARS-CoV-2 virus can be/is transmitted
through the air from one person to another.

The N95 mask doesn't need to have a pore size of 0.05 microns in order to
protect the wearer from the viral particles.  (The '95' means 95% filtration)

"There is never a naked virus floating in the air or released by people",
said Linsey Marr, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech
who specializes in airborne transmission of viruses.  The virus attaches to water
droplets or aerosols (really small droplets) that are generated by breathing,
talking, coughing, etc. These consist of water, mucus protein and other biological
material and are all larger than 1 micron.

So... these particles around 1 micron in size, will be collected by N95 respirator
filters with very high efficiency.    (The '95' means 95% filtration.)

what is our most important role as adults?
to raise the next generation.

How do children learn?
by studying facial expression.

what do masks do?
prevent that.

what sort of weak sauce, poopy pants adults abrigate their responsibility so they can be a bit "safer"
disgraceful selfish stuff.

sperms counts have halved this century.
mother nature doesnt want such creatures reproducing

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 8^th, 2023 at 5:33am:

Another long-retired codger dreaming he’s driving a tank through Berlin as he rides his motorised cart through pedestrians.

During 2020 and 2021 all directors-general of government departments, and their executives, were called to meet daily with the government's emergency response committee, some every 4 hours.

Heads of government and chief medical officers were, almost hand-in-hand, giving nightly updates, via all media available, on the state of the pandemic.

People were warned against laughing, singing or talking fast in elevators and other confined spaces to ‘reduce the spread of the virus’.

One case of the disease in a department saw an entire floor evacuated, if not the entire department, and commercial cleaners employed to disinfect the area. Employees were sent on paid leave until the ‘infected’ department was deemed ‘safe’.

Handwash was distributed so widely, and its use encouraged so much, it would have embarrassed an OCD sufferer; when whole countries ran out of the ingredients they resorted to using so much ethanol, it’s a wonder people weren’t all pissed by osmosis.

The hysteria about mask-wearing was insane. It couldn’t have been worse if those OCD sufferers had taken over the country. It didn’t even matter if it wasn’t an effective mask (e.g. a KN95), you could have wrapped a scarf around your mouth like a cowboy from a western, so long as it looked like a mask, then good enough.

Lockdowns were enforced as if nuclear radiation was present in the atmosphere.

Vaccines, tested less than medication would be for animals, were mandated under the threat of legal action and/or job loss for non-compliance.

And that’s just chapter one.

Panic, much?

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Yet when people took the masks off there was a 400% increase in covid deaths.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 8^th, 2023 at 8:04am:

So, not that omicron is many times more transmissible than all the previous strains combined?

Covid deaths, eh! There are currently studies being initiated to determine whether the mRNA spike proteins are contributing to excess deaths.