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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34603 Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #570 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm yawn, covid is a nothing burger and people now have vaccine fatigue. if anything, your over selling of it as a threat has been a big turn off and made people even less likely to comply
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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #571 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

yawn,

covid is a nothing burger and people now have vaccine fatigue.

if anything, your over selling of it as a threat has been a big turn off and made people even less likely to comply

No need to worry because this will never happen to you... right?

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-mediated cardiomyocyte fusion may contribute to increased arrhythmic risk in COVID-19

Published: March 8, 2023

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SARS-CoV-2-mediated COVID-19 may cause sudden cardiac death (SCD). Factors contributing to this increased risk of potentially fatal arrhythmias include thrombosis, exaggerated immune response, and treatment with QT-prolonging drugs. However, the intrinsic arrhythmic potential of direct SARS-CoV-2 infection of the heart remains unknown.

And I'm sure the antivaxxers will STILL keep blaming the vaccines. Roll Eyes

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Reply #572 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:25pm

The current death from covid number is almost to 20,000. It was at 3 or 4K when we took off our masks.

We are currently losing between 11 and 30 people a day. The recent high was 81 people dead in a single day.

Yeah right masks didn't help. Funny that when we were wearing masks the death rate was at numbers like 1 or 2 people. Most likely not wearing their masks.

We took off the masks and the death rate increased by over 400% funny coincidence that.

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Reply #573 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:53pm

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 24^th, 2023 at 10:26pm:

A December 2022 report from Latrobe University in Melbourne indicates
that wearing a mask is responsible for reducing viral infections.

N95/P2 respirators are specifically designed to a standard that prevents
95% of particles from getting through them. Cloth and surgical masks filter
out viral particles by having multiple layers - the efficiency of cloth masks
varies depending on the type and structure of the fabric.

In a community setting, without fit testing, a Californian study found people
who reported always using a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings
were 56% less likely to test positive to COVID compared with people of
the same age and gender who never wore a face mask.

There was an 83% reduction in the chance of a positive test among those who
wore a respirator, and a 66% reduction among those who wore surgical masks
compared to wearing no mask. Cloth masks were substantially less effective than
respirators or surgical masks.

A PNAS 2021 global study estimated that the observed level of mask wearing
during mask mandates corresponds to a direct decrease in secondary infection
rate of 19%, while perfect population mask wearing could lead to a decrease of
25%.

Can't argue with the facts? Smiley

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #574 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 4:49pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:23pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

yawn,

covid is a nothing burger and people now have vaccine fatigue.

if anything, your over selling of it as a threat has been a big turn off and made people even less likely to comply

No need to worry because this will never happen to you... right?

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-mediated cardiomyocyte fusion may contribute to increased arrhythmic risk in COVID-19

Published: March 8, 2023

Quote:

SARS-CoV-2-mediated COVID-19 may cause sudden cardiac death (SCD). Factors contributing to this increased risk of potentially fatal arrhythmias include thrombosis, exaggerated immune response, and treatment with QT-prolonging drugs. However, the intrinsic arrhythmic potential of direct SARS-CoV-2 infection of the heart remains unknown.

And I'm sure the antivaxxers will STILL keep blaming the vaccines. Roll Eyes

hi there carl

spike mediated indeed.

what does the mrna code for?

why, its the spike protein.

how much do you make after the vaccine?

depends how healthy you are.

old carl probably makes a 1/2 dozen spikes.
a young healthy male makes millions.

and according to your post, its the spike that attacks the heart.

thank you for coming to your senses.

please post your white flag asap, my australia post worker is in line for a big bonus thanks to your never ending postage Grin

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #575 - Mar 12^th, 2023 at 6:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:53pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 24^th, 2023 at 10:26pm:

A December 2022 report from Latrobe University in Melbourne indicates
that wearing a mask is responsible for reducing viral infections.

N95/P2 respirators are specifically designed to a standard that prevents
95% of particles from getting through them. Cloth and surgical masks filter
out viral particles by having multiple layers - the efficiency of cloth masks
varies depending on the type and structure of the fabric.

In a community setting, without fit testing, a Californian study found people
who reported always using a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings
were 56% less likely to test positive to COVID compared with people of
the same age and gender who never wore a face mask.

There was an 83% reduction in the chance of a positive test among those who
wore a respirator, and a 66% reduction among those who wore surgical masks
compared to wearing no mask. Cloth masks were substantially less effective than
respirators or surgical masks.

A PNAS 2021 global study estimated that the observed level of mask wearing
during mask mandates corresponds to a direct decrease in secondary infection
rate of 19%, while perfect population mask wearing could lead to a decrease of
25%.

Can't argue with the facts? Smiley

bang a bit of untested monkey snot into ya groggary and it will save ya from yourself Cheesy

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #576 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 12^th, 2023 at 3:53pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 24^th, 2023 at 10:26pm:

A December 2022 report from Latrobe University in Melbourne indicates
that wearing a mask is responsible for reducing viral infections.

N95/P2 respirators are specifically designed to a standard that prevents
95% of particles from getting through them. Cloth and surgical masks filter
out viral particles by having multiple layers - the efficiency of cloth masks
varies depending on the type and structure of the fabric.

In a community setting, without fit testing, a Californian study found people
who reported always using a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings
were 56% less likely to test positive to COVID compared with people of
the same age and gender who never wore a face mask.

There was an 83% reduction in the chance of a positive test among those who
wore a respirator, and a 66% reduction among those who wore surgical masks
compared to wearing no mask. Cloth masks were substantially less effective than
respirators or surgical masks.

A PNAS 2021 global study estimated that the observed level of mask wearing
during mask mandates corresponds to a direct decrease in secondary infection
rate of 19%, while perfect population mask wearing could lead to a decrease of
25%.

Can't argue with the facts? Smiley

All that shows is you don't understand the fundamental basics with science.

When something is proven to be wrong it's thrown in the rubbish because it is wrong. Latrobe will change their opinions on masks when they review the RCTs in the Cochrane report.

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Rochelle Walensky, MD, MPH
@CDCDirector

The science is clear:

If you are vaccinated against #COVID19, you are safe. The vaccines work. You can take off your mask & are not at risk of severe disease or hospitalization.

https://twitter.com/CDCDirector/status/1394346871900999697

How long did it take the CDC to change on masks when evidence showed vax didn't stop transmission or infections?
Grin

RCTs are the gold standard for evidence they show masks don't work with respiratory viruses.

When are the covidiots going to accept the real science that masks don't work?

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18418 Gender:	Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything Reply #577 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 6:06pm How many RCTs showed masks don't work? Why do idiots ignore scientific evidence that masks don't work?
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Reply #578 - Mar 14^th, 2023 at 10:37pm

Dr John Campbell admits he was wrong with masks and apologises for pushing masks after reviewing the evidence.

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Early life and education
John Lorimer Campbell[6] grew up primarily in the Stanwix district of Carlisle.[7] He holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, and a Ph.D. in nursing from the University of Bolton.[7] He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

At 12 minutes 55 seconds he explains a bit about how science works. When evidence proves your theory wrong you have to admit you were wrong and follow the evidence.

Masks don't work with respiratory virus only the ignorant and idiots would argue against the truth.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #579 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 3:26pm

https://twitter.com/AussieSteve6/status/1637222374444769280

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This is what it means to live in a society that actually cares about others.

❌Australia- smiles are back (while deaths hit new highs)
✅Japan-there are still viruses around dipshit, put on a mask!

https://twitter.com/CBSLizpalmer/status/1635158626661965824

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Mask-free Monday??It’s official-Japanese govt says it’s OK to un-mask. My straw poll in the subway this morning…maybe 5% are embracing their new freedom. Explanations include “ well now it’s allergy season” & “this way I don’t have to put on makeup”. Yeesh.

It was the opposite in Australia. After mask mandates were removed about 95% of the population "embraced their new freedom" (now it's 99%, i.e. only 1% are still wearing them).

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #580 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 6:38pm

Mandatory face mask wearing re-introduced in Pakistan due to rising Covid cases:

NCOC makes masks mandatory for citizens over emerging COVID cases

March 18th 2023

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The National Command and Operation Centre (NCOC) has made it mandatory for all citizens to wear a face mask in public places following the rise in positive cases of Covid-19 across the country.

Meanwhile... back here in Australia:

https://twitter.com/AussieSteve6/status/1637289282468720640

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In other news, cases surging ~20% in Victoria….not even mentioned by the government.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #581 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 9:59pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 3:26pm:

https://twitter.com/AussieSteve6/status/1637222374444769280

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This is what it means to live in a society that actually cares about others.

❌Australia- smiles are back (while deaths hit new highs)
✅Japan-there are still viruses around dipshit, put on a mask!

https://twitter.com/CBSLizpalmer/status/1635158626661965824

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Mask-free Monday??It’s official-Japanese govt says it’s OK to un-mask. My straw poll in the subway this morning…maybe 5% are embracing their new freedom. Explanations include “ well now it’s allergy season” & “this way I don’t have to put on makeup”. Yeesh.

It was the opposite in Australia. After mask mandates were removed about 95% of the population "embraced their new freedom" (now it's 99%, i.e. only 1% are still wearing them).

Masks don't work.

The people who make them have known this for quite some time.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #582 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:01pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 10:37pm:

Dr John Campbell admits he was wrong with masks and apologises for pushing masks after reviewing the evidence.

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Early life and education
John Lorimer Campbell[6] grew up primarily in the Stanwix district of Carlisle.[7] He holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, and a Ph.D. in nursing from the University of Bolton.[7] He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)

At 12 minutes 55 seconds he explains a bit about how science works. When evidence proves your theory wrong you have to admit you were wrong and follow the evidence.

Masks don't work with respiratory virus only the ignorant and idiots would argue against the truth.

Masks don't work

Why do people ignore the real science with this?

I don't think we will ever have mask mandates again for respiratory virus the science is very clear.

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Re: Mask mandates didn't do anything
Reply #583 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:19pm

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/health/yes-masks-reduce-risk-spreading-covid-d...

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An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

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Reply #584 - Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:27pm

Carl D wrote on Mar 19^th, 2023 at 10:19pm:

Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/health/yes-masks-reduce-risk-spreading-covid-d...

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An updated Cochrane Review suggests face masks don’t reduce the spread of COVID in the community. But there are several reasons why this conclusion is misleading.

The author of that didn't disclose her funding by those who make masks

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Disclosure statement
Raina MacIntyre receives funding from mask manufacturer Detmold for testing of their masks and is on an advisory board for mask manufacturer Ascend

https://theconversation.com/yes-masks-reduce-the-risk-of-spreading-covid-despite...

78 RCTs say masks don't work. RCTs are highest standard for evidence.

Her flawed analysis of Cochrane doesn't change facts.

She gets funding from mask manufacturers, do you think they will continue to fund her if she told the truth?

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