Dnarever wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:51pm:


And this link says you are dead wrong about all of your assertions regarding the vax !!

https://thenobodywhoknowseverybody.substack.com/p/john-skerritt-a-tidal-wave-of-...

https://www.health.gov.au/news/therapeutic-goods-administration-adj-professor-jo...


JOHN SKERRITT:                  

So, good morning, Sylvia. The TGA has approved this vaccine for, as you say, 5 to 11s. The next steps are to go to ATAGI, because they are looking at international data for example, on whether the interval between vaccinations should be longer. We know with adults that the vaccine works better if, say, the interval between the two shots is, say, two or three months. And so, that's one of the things that ATAGI is looking at, as well as giving their imprimatur to the performance and safety of it, although that is mainly TGA's role.

The other steps of course are providing the training for those who will be vaccinating kids. It is a different vaccine in a different vial, with a slightly different dose. The actual molecule is the same but it is formulated differently in a paediatric form. And then, of course, there's all the logistics of working with primary care, GPs, vaccination centres, and states and territory governments, before in a few weeks' time, we anticipate the vaccine will be rolled out ahead of kids going back to school.

JOHN SKERRITT:                  

Well, talk with your vaccinators, talk with your family doctor, talk with healthcare professionals. Vaccination is not mandatory, but Australia has a tremendous record in vaccinating children. We have one of the highest children vaccination rates in the world, over 95 per cent, against the standard vaccinations of a national immunisation program. So, we are confident that parents will come forward, but it is a decision they make on behalf of their family.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 9:21pm:


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What we are doing here is talking about "Mask mandates didn't do anything" This is not about what the vax did or didn't do.

The graph previously posted shows that the deaths were reasonably constant before the restrictions were removed (not not about the vax) and they skyrocketed after the restrictions were removed. Someone said but it was the opening of international borders. So we then want back and put the international border opening on the graph and found that this happened after the death rate had significantly increased and that the event didn't really change the trajectory of the death rate. Fairly conclusive that it wasn't that. (Still nothing to do with the Vaccine).

You said it was the vaccine and we were able to see that the vaccine was implemented over more than 12 months prior to the death rate changing so clearly not the cause of the changed trajectory of deaths around Jan 2022.

Just as what you said does not impact what we have been able to show here. The information that we investigated does nothing to show that the vaccine has any positive or negative outcomes. i.e it has no impact on what you have presented.

We are talking about the impact of removing the covid 19 protections.

You are talking about the potential negative impacts of taking the vaccine.

They are not the same thing.

The link does not say that we are dead wrong as nothing in the link is relevant to what we are investigating.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2023 at 7:51pm:


Yes.   It's a funny thing, but I've tried to clarify the actual statistical
interpretation of this graph—several times!—with Sir Lastnail, but by
now I have to presume that he doesn't have the mathematical and/or
statistical acumen to understand it, even with a simplified explanation.
I guess, in all fairness, I should acknowledge that some of us have a
more solid education and grounding in maths than others, so it might
be tad unfair to take him to task over his misreading of the graph.

Anyway...

The 'blue' line represents the rate converted raw numbers of hospital
admissions of unvaccinated people, and because only around 3% of the
population is unvaccinated, it follows that. their hospitalisation numbers
will be the LOWEST.

Conversely, the 'green' line represents the hospital admissions of people
who've been vaccinated, and because they account for the majority of
the population (19.8 million, 8 March 2023) naturally it follows that their
hospitalisation rate in converted raw numbers will be the HIGHEST.

—These two points are the stumbling block for Sir Lastanail apparently.

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 9:05am:


Nobody is saying that the average mask was 100% effective that is as silly as saying that the Masks didn't do anything.

As part of the package of Masks distancing and isolation the plan was very effective and yes the Mask component contributed to the package.

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Had nothing been done the evidence suggests that up to a few hundred thousand may have died in the first 12 months as happened in places that did nothing. Look at Wuhan in the first weeks where thousands were infected before the knew what to do, Look at the US east coast Major cities where tens of thousands were infected and bodies were stacked in cold trucks outside of hospitals again before there was knowledge to take effective action.

Saying that we should have had this is real stupid - this is what doing nothing would have looked like. At a minimum tens of thousands of Australians are alive today because of these measures. They worked spectacularly.

Sophia wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 10:51am:


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Yes and both were recommended as covid treatments by the wacko's.

Don Don Didn't know.

Carl D wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2023 at 1:47pm:



Mandate is not law.
Tell em to get fkkked.