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Reply #30 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:50am
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:38am:
Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:33am:
What does Vladimir Putin have to do to convince Washington that the Ukraine crisis is a preliminary skirmish in what might be a nuclear war? On February 23, Putin warned of nuclear war. On February 19, he conducted a full-dress drill of Russian ballistic missile forces. On February 27, he put Russia on a nuclear alert — which remains in effect.

Joe Biden didn’t get the message.

Then on March 29, Moscow sent a red-alarm signal to the West by leaking news that “Putin and his high command have decamped to secret bunkers, following a Kremlin statement that Russia would use nuclear weapons to counter an ‘existential threat,’” the Daily Mail reported, citing investigations by journalist Christo Grozev.


https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/n-war-risk-real-bidens-living-a-dangerous-fantasy/


My guess is the US military is on alert and ready. They are not a bunch of snow flakes. Bad mouthing Biden makes no difference. Sky News keeps doing it, the same way the ABC says Morrison should have stopped the bushfires and Covid. The other thing is this. If there is going to be nuclear war, Russia will start it, and the US will end it.




The ABC has never said either of those things.

And i think you'll find nuclear wars are not so easily "ended".
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Reply #31 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 11:31am
 
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Reply #32 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 11:59am
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:38am:
Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:33am:
What does Vladimir Putin have to do to convince Washington that the Ukraine crisis is a preliminary skirmish in what might be a nuclear war? On February 23, Putin warned of nuclear war. On February 19, he conducted a full-dress drill of Russian ballistic missile forces. On February 27, he put Russia on a nuclear alert — which remains in effect.

Joe Biden didn’t get the message.

Then on March 29, Moscow sent a red-alarm signal to the West by leaking news that “Putin and his high command have decamped to secret bunkers, following a Kremlin statement that Russia would use nuclear weapons to counter an ‘existential threat,’” the Daily Mail reported, citing investigations by journalist Christo Grozev.


https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/n-war-risk-real-bidens-living-a-dangerous-fantasy/


My guess is the US military is on alert and ready. They are not a bunch of snow flakes. Bad mouthing Biden makes no difference. Sky News keeps doing it, the same way the ABC says Morrison should have stopped the bushfires and Covid. The other thing is this. If there is going to be nuclear war, Russia will start it, and the US will end it.



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Reply #33 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 4:47pm
 
Russia starting a nuclear attack against the USA would mean that the USA would become nuclear missile deployment incapable. The USA would have to be very ready to counter the incoming missiles and be very accurate to survive the attack.
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Reply #34 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 7:03pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:33am:
What does Vladimir Putin have to do to convince Washington that the Ukraine crisis is a preliminary skirmish in what might be a nuclear war? On February 23, Putin warned of nuclear war. On February 19, he conducted a full-dress drill of Russian ballistic missile forces. On February 27, he put Russia on a nuclear alert — which remains in effect.

Joe Biden didn’t get the message.

Then on March 29, Moscow sent a red-alarm signal to the West by leaking news that “Putin and his high command have decamped to secret bunkers, following a Kremlin statement that Russia would use nuclear weapons to counter an ‘existential threat,’” the Daily Mail reported, citing investigations by journalist Christo Grozev.


https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/n-war-risk-real-bidens-living-a-dangerous-fantasy/



What would you have Biden do, Frank?

What do you think Donald would have done?


Donald's right, dear. Vlad would not have invaded Ukraine while the Donald was in. Vlad would just have waited until Donald's second term, when Donald told him he planned to pull the US out of NATO.

Unfortunately, Donald was unprepared for the "Deep State", a sinister group of government officials tasked with - ridiculous, I know - carrying out US policy.

They did things like ask nosey questions when congressional aid to Ukraine was stopped by the White House. They reported suspicious phone calls Donald made to the Investigator General, things like asking foreign heads of state to prosecute political opponents' kids. The Deep State went around sticking Donald's memos back together with sticky tape after he'd ripped them up and thrown them out - or reporting blocked toilets where he'd flushed them down the loo. They were constantly making trouble.

Donald was ill-equipped to deal with the Deep State, but he was learning. For example, he found he could fire Investigator Generals just as easily as he could fire Attorney Generals. Problem was, the people got in the way and ultimately said no to a second term. Can you believe it? Voters.

No problem, Donald originally thought, he could just take the election to court, like he often did when things did go his way. The judges in the lower courts got all legal, wanting evidence, and his plan to take it to the Supreme Court didn't work. Donald looked into another plan to convince the generals to impose martial law and run another election, but the generals didn't like it - maybe if it had gone to the Supreme Court, but no luck. The generals turned out to be a bunch of Democrats, what can you do?

Okay, so Donald could tell state governors who to put in their Electoral Colleges and just tell their delegates how to vote - why hadn't anybody tried it before? That one didn't go down too well, with all the governors and electoral officials saying they had to follow "the process." Weak. Donald got into a bunch of arguments with state governors and they all said the same thing, it was getting very frustrating.

Anyway, it all came down to the vote in the Capitol on January 6. Here, Donald would tell his representatives in Congress how to vote, and get his Vice President to stall things while he went to work, mobilising a popular revolt by group of patriotic voters, representing all the people of America. That's democratic, right? It would be like a new American revolution. The people would peacefully take over the House and Senate and convince the "strong" republicans (the Democrats are hopeless, Donald said, they are never voting for anything) to put him back in.

Problem is, the "patriots" looked like a bunch of losers, taking selfies of themselves with their feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk and getting about shirtless, wearing face paint like a crowd of football hooligans. And they started attacking cops. Look, Donald had never had a problem with fighting a cop - if you play fair and don't use mace and tasers and cattle prods. Anyway, five people ended up getting killed and it made Donald look bad. He lost the election - well, he didn't lose, but you know what he means. The Deep State took him down. The House and Senate voted for Sleepy Joe.

So yeah, Donald didn't get his second term so Vlad decided to invade. Maybe we should have listened to Donald and saved democracy, eh?
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:14pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 7:03pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:33am:
What does Vladimir Putin have to do to convince Washington that the Ukraine crisis is a preliminary skirmish in what might be a nuclear war? On February 23, Putin warned of nuclear war. On February 19, he conducted a full-dress drill of Russian ballistic missile forces. On February 27, he put Russia on a nuclear alert — which remains in effect.

Joe Biden didn’t get the message.

Then on March 29, Moscow sent a red-alarm signal to the West by leaking news that “Putin and his high command have decamped to secret bunkers, following a Kremlin statement that Russia would use nuclear weapons to counter an ‘existential threat,’” the Daily Mail reported, citing investigations by journalist Christo Grozev.


https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/n-war-risk-real-bidens-living-a-dangerous-fantasy/



What would you have Biden do, Frank?

What do you think Donald would have done?


Donald's right, dear. Vlad would not have invaded Ukraine while the Donald was in. Vlad would just have waited until Donald's second term, when Donald told him he planned to pull the US out of NATO.

Unfortunately, Donald was unprepared for the "Deep State", a sinister group of government officials tasked with - ridiculous, I know - carrying out US policy.

They did things like ask nosey questions when congressional aid to Ukraine was stopped by the White House. They reported suspicious phone calls Donald made to the Investigator General, things like asking foreign heads of state to prosecute political opponents' kids. The Deep State went around sticking Donald's memos back together with sticky tape after he'd ripped them up and thrown them out - or reporting blocked toilets where he'd flushed them down the loo. They were constantly making trouble.

Donald was ill-equipped to deal with the Deep State, but he was learning. For example, he found he could fire Investigator Generals just as easily as he could fire Attorney Generals. Problem was, the people got in the way and ultimately said no to a second term. Can you believe it? Voters.

No problem, Donald originally thought, he could just take the election to court, like he often did when things did go his way. The judges in the lower courts got all legal, wanting evidence, and his plan to take it to the Supreme Court didn't work. Donald looked into another plan to convince the generals to impose martial law and run another election, but the generals didn't like it - maybe if it had gone to the Supreme Court, but no luck. The generals turned out to be a bunch of Democrats, what can you do?

Okay, so Donald could tell state governors who to put in their Electoral Colleges and just tell their delegates how to vote - why hadn't anybody tried it before? That one didn't go down too well, with all the governors and electoral officials saying they had to follow "the process." Weak. Donald got into a bunch of arguments with state governors and they all said the same thing, it was getting very frustrating.

Anyway, it all came down to the vote in the Capitol on January 6. Here, Donald would tell his representatives in Congress how to vote, and get his Vice President to stall things while he went to work, mobilising a popular revolt by group of patriotic voters, representing all the people of America. That's democratic, right? It would be like a new American revolution. The people would peacefully take over the House and Senate and convince the "strong" republicans (the Democrats are hopeless, Donald said, they are never voting for anything) to put him back in.

Problem is, the "patriots" looked like a bunch of losers, taking selfies of themselves with their feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk and getting about shirtless, wearing face paint like a crowd of football hooligans. And they started attacking cops. Look, Donald had never had a problem with fighting a cop - if you play fair and don't use mace and tasers and cattle prods. Anyway, five people ended up getting killed and it made Donald look bad. He lost the election - well, he didn't lose, but you know what he means. The Deep State took him down. The House and Senate voted for Sleepy Joe.

So yeah, Donald didn't get his second term so Vlad decided to invade. Maybe we should have listened to Donald and saved democracy, eh?

Fappity fap, paki.

You and gweggy turd must have RSI by now.



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Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:21pm
 
russian mentality is fairly simple

its embarrassing to have a functional capitalist society on their border, so they will just drive in , wreck it and go home.

problem solved.

no different to what the socialists, anti-fa , the woke left and the greens would like to do to capitalist societies everywhere.

it destroys their narrative to see success.
they only vibe with tearing down and destroying
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Reply #37 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:21pm:
russian mentality is fairly simple

its embarrassing to have a functional capitalist society on their border, so they will just drive in , wreck it and go home.

Putin's Russia does not intend to go home.

His intention is to reconstitute the territory and influence of the former Soviet Union, using the age-old Russian strategies of scorched earth, mass genocide and conquest.

As it's always been with Russian military strategy: burn and retreat when the odds are against them; advance and burn when they have the means and opportunity.
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Reply #38 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:32pm
 
Russia is a big place, a lot of different kinds of people. Via the internet, I've been in contact with musician friends in Moscow over the years, and I am sure they do not support Putin's war. Of course, if they were to say anything publicly they would be fined, possibly jailed, or worse.
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Reply #39 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:12pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:32pm:
Russia is a big place, a lot of different kinds of people. Via the internet, I've been in contact with musician friends in Moscow over the years, and I am sure they do not support Putin's war. Of course, if they were to say anything publicly they would be fined, possibly jailed, or worse.



I entirely agree
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Reply #40 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:25pm
 
Russia - they cant resolve if they are inferior or superior.  They KNOW they are inferior but FEEL superior.

Being Russian is a complex. They are like the Irish or the Germans - potatoes and drink and resentment.







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Reply #41 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:25pm:
Russia - they cant resolve if they are inferior or superior.  They KNOW they are inferior but FEEL superior.
Being Russian is a complex. They are like the Irish or the Germans - potatoes and drink and resentment.

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Reply #42 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:49pm
 
No one can be a truly intelligent supporter of democracy and worship a single all powerful god/leader at the same time.
The two are the very antithesis of each other. If you are a supporter of a single omnipotent god/leader of all things and that being the highest possible example of leadership for which to aspire, then you know democracy has no place . Cheesy
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Reply #43 - Apr 29th, 2022 at 12:14am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 9:21pm:
russian mentality is fairly simple

its embarrassing to have a functional capitalist society on their border, so they will just drive in , wreck it and go home.

Putin's Russia does not intend to go home.

His intention is to reconstitute the territory and influence of the former Soviet Union, using the age-old Russian strategies of scorched earth, mass genocide and conquest.

As it's always been with Russian military strategy: burn and retreat when the odds are against them; advance and burn when they have the means and opportunity.


You don't need to tell Aquascoot that, Meister, he's appalled by the actions of his "noble Vlad". To Aquascoot, the Russian military are no better than Antifa, or Black Lives Matter.

Despicable stuff, no?
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Reply #44 - Apr 29th, 2022 at 12:24am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2022 at 10:25pm:
Russia - they cant resolve if they are inferior or superior.  They KNOW they are inferior but FEEL superior.

Being Russian is a complex. They are like the Irish or the Germans - potatoes and drink and resentment.


A bit like Danes in the Antipodes, no? They love the South Pacific, salt air, multiculturalism, the tinted races, etc, but they do love the old country too. Blue vein stool, schnapps and schadenfreud.

Beats rum, sodomy and the lash any day, ja?
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