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$7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan
Apr 28^th, 2022 at 8:59am

Joe Biden is such an idiot.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.htm...

US left behind $7 billion of military equipment in Afghanistan after 2021 withdrawal, Pentagon report says

Aircraft worth $923.3 million remained in Afghanistan.

A total of 9,524 air-to-ground munitions, valued at $6.54 million, remained in Afghanistan at the conclusion of the US military withdrawal. The "significant majority" of the "remaining aircraft munitions stock are non-precision munitions," the report states.
Over 40,000 of the total 96,000 military vehicles the US gave to Afghan forces remained in Afghanistan at the time of the US withdrawal, including 12,000 military Humvees, the report states. "The operational condition of the remaining vehicles" in Afghanistan is "unknown," the report states.

More than 300,000 of the total 427,300 weapons the US gave to Afghan forces remained in Afghanistan at the time of the US military withdrawal, according to the report. Less than 1,537,000 of the "specialty munitions" and "common small arms ammunition," valued at a total of $48 million, are still in the country, the report states.

"Nearly all" of the communications equipment that the US gave to Afghan forces, including base-station, mobile, man-portable and hand-held commercial and military radio systems, and associated transmitters and encryption devices also remained in Afghanistan at the time of the withdrawal, the report states.

"Nearly all" night vision, surveillance, "biometric and positioning equipment" totaling nearly 42,000 pieces of specialized equipment remained in the country, the report adds.
And "nearly all," of the explosive ordinance disposal and demining equipment, including 17,500 "pieces of explosive detection, electronic countermeasure, disposal and personal protective equipment" also remained in Afghanistan, according to the report.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102927 Melbourne Gender:	Re: $7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan Reply #1 - Apr 28^th, 2022 at 9:14am How has Biden made the world a safer place by leaving such advanced weapons and equipment behind in Afghanistan in the hands of terrorists who could now start a war with them? Biden must be the biggest idiot president that America has ever had.
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Reply #2 - Apr 28^th, 2022 at 9:33am

Yeah lets blame Joe Biden, as if any other President would have interfered with the Pentagon's decision to abandon used equipment. Stuff that built up over ten years. The US military doesn't waste its time on old equipment that has been in the field. And it would have been a further waste of taxpayers money to try to save it. But the bottom line is that if the military thought there was something worth saving, they would have. All this crap is generated by biased nitwits for the purpose of attacking the current adminstration.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102927 Melbourne Gender:	Re: $7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan Reply #3 - Apr 28^th, 2022 at 9:48am Issue, stop being an apologist for an idiot.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83726 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: $7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2022 at 11:49am Arming the 'Ghans against the Chinese Next Invaders.... There's Chinkers on the Oxus, boys... and Russians on the roll Every bastard just wants in to make The Ghan a hole. Bi' a purple prose there.... lock, stock and two smoking barrels of whiskey....
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Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2022 at 1:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

Issue,

stop being an apologist for an idiot.

It is ludicrous to think the taliban will be able to maintain sophisticated equipment like helicopters, let alone fly them. Ammunition? Back to the USA? That stuff isn't worth anything. and it has a shelf life. But really, you think the Pentagon is stupid enough leave something important, when they had all the time in world to get it out? Get real. Half of the stuff that comes out of Sky News about Biden, is from Trump Central.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24583 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: $7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan Reply #6 - Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:10pm Depending on how smart this move has been will be determined by what military action happens in Afghanistan in the future.
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Reply #7 - Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:21pm

issuevoter wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 1:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28^th, 2022 at 9:48am:

Issue,

stop being an apologist for an idiot.

It is ludicrous to think the taliban will be able to maintain sophisticated equipment like helicopters, let alone fly them. Ammunition? Back to the USA? That stuff isn't worth anything. and it has a shelf life. But really, you think the Pentagon is stupid enough leave something important, when they had all the time in world to get it out? Get real. Half of the stuff that comes out of Sky News about Biden, is from Trump Central.

What about:

military radio systems, and associated transmitters and encryption devices
also remained in Afghanistan at the time of the withdrawal, the report states.

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Reply #8 - Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:24pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:10pm:

Depending on how smart this move has been will be determined by what military action happens in Afghanistan in the future.

They have enough weapons to start a major war and
easily enough to supply terrorists for the next 50 years.
Untold 1,000s of innocent people will die from those weapons -
maybe even Americans.

Biden should be impeached for this and put in jail.

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Reply #9 - Apr 29^th, 2022 at 5:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:

They have enough weapons to start a major war and
easily enough to supply terrorists for the next 50 years.
Untold 1,000s of innocent people will die from those weapons -
maybe even Americans.

Biden should be impeached for this and put in jail.

The Afghans have had enough weapons to start a major war for the last 40 years. Unless you can put a dent into the Afghan barbaric way of thinking, Afghanistan is going to be a third world society for a long time.

It was amusing in a serious way how one Afghan Taliban member getting interviewed by an Australian journalist said that the USA (and the West) should invest in Afghanistan as a way of compensating the country. It is difficult to do that when the West and the Americans have been shot at for the last 20 years.

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Re: $7 billion of arms left behind in Afghanistan
Reply #10 - Apr 29^th, 2022 at 5:25pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:

They have enough weapons to start a major war and
easily enough to supply terrorists for the next 50 years.
Untold 1,000s of innocent people will die from those weapons -
maybe even Americans.

Biden should be impeached for this and put in jail.

The Afghans have had enough weapons to start a major war for the last 40 years. Unless you can put a dent into the Afghan barbaric way of thinking, Afghanistan is going to be a third world society for a long time.

It was amusing in a serious way how one Afghan Taliban member getting interviewed by an Australian journalist said that the USA (and the West) should invest in Afghanistan as a way of compensating the country. It is difficult to do that when the West and the Americans have been shot at for the last 20 years.

Would you like to see Biden impeached for it?

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Reply #11 - Apr 30^th, 2022 at 11:07am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 5:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 5:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2022 at 4:24pm:

They have enough weapons to start a major war and
easily enough to supply terrorists for the next 50 years.
Untold 1,000s of innocent people will die from those weapons -
maybe even Americans.

Biden should be impeached for this and put in jail.

The Afghans have had enough weapons to start a major war for the last 40 years. Unless you can put a dent into the Afghan barbaric way of thinking, Afghanistan is going to be a third world society for a long time.

It was amusing in a serious way how one Afghan Taliban member getting interviewed by an Australian journalist said that the USA (and the West) should invest in Afghanistan as a way of compensating the country. It is difficult to do that when the West and the Americans have been shot at for the last 20 years.

Would you like to see Biden impeached for it?

As people have pointed out, it probably would have cost quite a lot of time, money and potentially lives to get all the equipment out of Afghanistan. From what I understand of American military equipment, you need more than the keys or knowledge of hot wiring the vehicles for the Afghanis to be using any of them. I doubt that anything of value was left behind.

To answer your question, no, I do not want Biden impeached over this.

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