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Reply #150 - May 13^th, 2022 at 12:36am

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 7:56pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2022 at 12:39am:

Democracy in strife:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/opinion/the-second-american-civil-war-is-already-...

[i]"The US supreme court’s upcoming decision to reverse Roe v Wade (an early draft of which was leaked last week) doesn’t ban abortions; it leaves the issue to the states.

People deciding for themselves? No good??

Leaves remote central office commies out of the loop? Tewwible??

No, this is what is terrible - from the article:

"One America is largely urban, racially and ethnically diverse, and young. The other is largely rural or exurban, white and older.

The split is accelerating. Red zip codes are getting redder and blue zip codes, bluer. Of the nation’s total 3,143 counties, the number of super landslide counties – where a presidential candidate won at least 80% of the vote – jumped from 6% in 2004 to 22% in 2020.

Surveys show Americans find it increasingly important to live around people who share their political values. Animosity toward those in the opposing party is higher than at any time in living memory. Forty-two per cent of registered voters believe Americans in the other party are “downright evil”.

Ah the joys of blind-leading-the-blind 2-party democracy.

And so we have it: deluded blind "freedom" ideologues hate one another to the extent of thinking the other side is evil.

Enjoy.

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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #151 - May 13^th, 2022 at 1:08am

Will of the people, innit? They wanna be red - they're red - they wanna be blue - they're blue!

So we're surrounded by anti-democracies, eh? The poor bastards.... but we're not descending to their level ... no sir-ee.... as a trooper from that 325 GIR said at the Elsenborn Ridge - I'm the 82nd Airborne, and this is as far as they go!

Where's Billy Jack? Friends - it jest hurts my heart that that good old boy jest ain't here.... somebody wake 'im up....

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13025 Gender:	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #152 - May 13^th, 2022 at 1:37am Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 1:08am: Will of the people, innit? What.... to hate one-another? Enjoy.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 47077 Gender:	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #153 - May 13^th, 2022 at 10:46am thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 1:37am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 1:08am: Will of the people, innit? What.... to hate one-another? Enjoy. Oh, so in China the CCP MAKES the Chinese love one another, like Jesus taught? Who knew!??
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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #154 - May 13^th, 2022 at 9:43pm

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 10:46am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 1:37am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 1:08am:

Will of the people, innit?

What.... to hate one-another?

Enjoy.

Oh, so in China the CCP MAKES the Chinese love one another, like Jesus taught?

Who knew!??

Do 40% of Chinese think their compatriots are evil?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49222 At my desk.	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #155 - May 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm One day the knives are going to come out for the the CCP. It has been killing and lying to the Chinese people for too long.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13025 Gender:	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #156 - May 13^th, 2022 at 10:10pm freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm: One day the knives are going to come out for the the CCP. It has been killing and lying to the Chinese people for too long. Do 40% of Chinese - 600 million people - think the other 800 million are evil?
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Reply #157 - May 14^th, 2022 at 7:47am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm:

One day the knives are going to come out for the the CCP. It has been killing and lying to the Chinese people for too long.

Do 40% of Chinese - 600 million people - think the other 800 million are evil?

What would you think of a group of leaders that kill 50 million Chinese people because they want to tell each other convenient lies about food distribution?

Or that unleash a deadly virus on the world because they tell each other convenient lies about it in the leadup to Chinese new year?

The banality of evil eh?

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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #158 - May 14^th, 2022 at 10:25pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 7:47am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm:

One day the knives are going to come out for the the CCP. It has been killing and lying to the Chinese people for too long.

Do 40% of Chinese - 600 million people - think the other 800 million are evil?

What would you think of a group of leaders that kill 50 million Chinese people because they want to tell each other convenient lies about food distribution?

Or that unleash a deadly virus on the world because they tell each other convenient lies about it in the leadup to Chinese new year?

I would think they are as fraudulent as you - by your own admission..."FTW".

Meantime another democracy (Sri Lanka) has been driven into the clutches of the IMF (Instant Misery Fund), by the current evil global, privately-financed, money as debt system.

As explained in the MMT thread which you fraudulently diverted to your privatization thread, serving those evil private financiers controlling the global economy for their own benefit, beyond the reach of national governments.

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The banality of evil eh?

Yeh, like the evil resulting from the blind self-interest of contending parties in democracies, aided and abetted by private financiers.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49222 At my desk.	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #159 - May 15^th, 2022 at 7:18am Quote: I would think they are as fraudulent Do you think the CCP is fraudulent?
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Reply #160 - May 15^th, 2022 at 7:43am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 10:25pm:

Meantime another democracy (Sri Lanka) has been driven into the clutches of the IMF (Instant Misery Fund), by the current evil global, privately-financed, money as debt system.

Whatever evil has fallen on the Sri Lankan people, it's due to the CCP's debt-trapping of Sri Lanka, exploiting the corrupt Rajapaksa family's tenuous grip on its quasi-dictatorship of the country, and including conditions in the agreements that allowed the CCP to meddle in Sri Lankan domestic affairs.

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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #161 - May 15^th, 2022 at 10:55pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 7:43am:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 14^th, 2022 at 10:25pm:

Meantime another democracy (Sri Lanka) has been driven into the clutches of the IMF (Instant Misery Fund), by the current evil global, privately-financed, money as debt system.

Whatever evil has fallen on the Sri Lankan people, it's due to the CCP's debt-trapping of Sri Lanka, exploiting the corrupt Rajapaksa family's tenuous grip on its quasi-dictatorship of the country, and including conditions in the agreements that allowed the CCP to meddle in Sri Lankan domestic affairs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%93present_Sri_Lankan_economic_crisis#Ex...

"Despite commentaries blaming China for the debt crisis, the Australian Lowy Institute pointed out that Sri Lanka was "not engulfed in a Chinese debt trap", because external debt owed to China was only about 10% of the debt stock in April 2021. Instead, the majority of Sri Lanka's external debt stock is owed to international capital markets, which accounted for 47%. Another 22% is held by multilateral development banks, followed by Japan having 10% of Sri Lankan external debt."

So much for the Chinese "debt trap" diplomacy myth from a "freedom" ideologue.

Loss of tourism during the pandemic is another significant factor.

Meanwhile the citizens think that replacing one democratic government with another will somehow solve the problem, when the real culprits are private international money lenders.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 13025 Gender:	Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up? Reply #162 - May 15^th, 2022 at 10:58pm freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 7:18am: Quote: I would think they are as fraudulent Do you think the CCP is fraudulent? No. The CCP has markedly reduced corruption under Xi.
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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #163 - May 16^th, 2022 at 1:56am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 10:58pm:

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2022 at 7:18am:

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I would think they are as fraudulent

Do you think the CCP is fraudulent?

No. The CCP has markedly reduced corruption under Xi.

That wasn't the question.... and establishing a monopoly on corruption is not the same as reducing it....

Is the CCP fraudulent? Is it a legitimate government and why?

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Re: Is The Democratic World Just Giving Up?
Reply #164 - May 16^th, 2022 at 1:58am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2022 at 9:52pm:

One day the knives are going to come out for the the CCP. It has been killing and lying to the Chinese people for too long.

Do 40% of Chinese - 600 million people - think the other 800 million are evil?

Do they have the option of totally free thought - or is their thought proscribed?

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