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Reply #180 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:36pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on May 7th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
freediver wrote on May 7th, 2022 at 4:26pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on May 7th, 2022 at 3:59pm:
Name the "brutal cultures"



Islam is pretty brutal, and hostile to democracy.


We all know it, but we turn a blind eye ... Islam knows only one thing - Islam, and Sharia law



I am astonished there are still old people spreading this bullshit.  You don't even know what Sharia law IS
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Reply #181 - May 21st, 2022 at 6:27pm
 

If there is democracy in the West, people would not allow the Khazar oligarch to enslave them.

"Western so-called "freedom and democracy" is opium for, IQ<10, morons.
None of this exists in the West except two party cartels backed by oligarchy and corporate fascism".


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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
 
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Reply #182 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:55pm
 



Nothing new in Anglo"demoncracy" in Australia. One mafia cartel replaced another to the delight
of brainwashed zombies who believe what their colonial and other masters have told them.


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Grin
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In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
 
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Reply #183 - May 25th, 2022 at 9:27am
 
You don’t have to worry about voting in china, do you, bot?

Just make sure to always—always—know the Party line and tow it!
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Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.
 
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Reply #184 - May 25th, 2022 at 9:27am
 
athos wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 12:55pm:
Nothing new in Anglo"demoncracy" in Australia. One mafia cartel replaced another to the delight
of brainwashed zombies who believe what their colonial and other masters have told them.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/yabbfiles/avatars/UserAvatars/athos.jpg



Grin


That's a hella funny meme.  The right are idiots
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Reply #185 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 11:51am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:55pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 7:09pm:
So we have two contrasting systems:

One in which government is by consensus arrived at by engagement of the entire population, from the local up to the national level; the other by election  achieved with 50% + 1.

Of course free-thinking is possible in either system, but awareness of self-interested individuals working against  collective well-being  is another matter.

Meanwhile the level of education in either system is critical; Murdoch's control of political thought in the US and Oz is disastrous. 

The Chinese people have no choice in who governs them; and to become a CCP official requires bribery and connections.

The Chinese people are free to think (only because private thoughts cannot be scrutinised by the state). The Chinese people are not free to express criticism of the CCP without the risk of arrest, jail, disappearance or murder.

The Chinese people are as capable of self-interest as any other people, with corruption protected from exposure and scrutiny by prohibiting free media reporting.

The last time the Chinese people protested was in 1989 and not just in Tiananmen Square - that was only what the rest of the world witnessed due to foreign media present in Beijing. Brutal oppression occurred simultaneously across cities throughout China; the true murder-toll will never be known.


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Danish artist Jens Galschiot (L) works in front of the Danish Parliament Folketinget at Christiansborg Palace Square in Copenhagen, where he erected an 8-meter-high Pillar of Shame in solidarity with the protesters in Hong Kong on January 23, 2020.

“It’s not possible to kill a symbol. You can only make it stronger,” Galschiot said when unveiling a full-sized replica of the Pillar of Shame at the University of Oslo in Norway.

Another, smaller copy already stands in Budapest and a copy in Prague is almost ready to debut. Galschiot said he wants to put one in front of the Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C.

A group called Lady Liberty Hong Kong used photos of the original statue to create a 3D model that can be downloaded to create real or virtual replicas.

“The Pillar of Shame is a symbol of the freedom of speech that we had growing up in Hong Kong, and to remove it is a manifestation of what Hong Kong is becoming,” said one of the digital artists who created the 3D model.

A roughly half-sized Pillar of Shame will be unveiled in the Taiwanese capital of Taipei on Saturday at a vigil marking the 33rd anniversary of the Tiananmen massacre. The statue was funded by the New School for Democracy (NSD), an organization founded during the Tiananmen Square anniversary in 2011 to promote democracy in Chinese societies.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2022/06/04/pillar-of-shame-tiananmen-memorial-rises-around-the-world-after-hong-kong-communists-tear-it-down/
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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
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Reply #186 - Jun 5th, 2022 at 12:56pm
 
Hong Kongers are upset the British are gone.
They rioted against the CCP because there's no more drugs and opium going to come their way.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #187 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 3:26pm
 
The benefits of Communism and Dictatorship are well known, just look to the UN for confirmation.
It's rather ironic and an interesting dichotomy how the UN on one hand professes it's capitalist ideals and rejection of communist/dictatorship societies, whilst at the same time actually perpetrating those very ideals.
The whole structure of the UN and world governance/laws/financial systems etc is based on the world "commune" being served best, in the interests of all the "community", by serving one master; the UN.
It's always interesting to hear intellectual "elites" profess the need for human freedom/democracy and identity etc only to then espouse the virtues of everyone being under the one "leader",with no tribalism, all conforming to the same rules and systems Dictated by a single entity.
No-one seems to actually grasp that dichotomy.
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Reply #188 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 2:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 5th, 2022 at 11:51am:
Danish artist Jens Galschiot (L) works in front of the Danish Parliament Folketinget at Christiansborg Palace Square in Copenhagen, where he erected an 8-meter-high Pillar of Shame in solidarity with the protesters in Hong Kong on January 23, 2020.


https://www.chinausfocus.com/society-culture/why-chinese-people-support-their-go...

According to the Edelman Global Trust Barometer Report, the rate of public trust in the Chinese government was 84 percent in 2018, 86 percent in 2019 and 90 percent in 2020. Over the same period, Americans’ trust in the U.S. government ranged from 37 to 40 percent. Why the Chinese people are so supportive of the government has become a topic of international discussion.

Blind, self-interested "freedom" survival of the fittest ideologues would be better off looking to  their own troubles...





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Reply #189 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 3:02pm
 
goosecat wrote on Jun 11th, 2022 at 3:26pm:
The benefits of Communism and Dictatorship are well known, just look to the UN for confirmation.
 

Ah... let's see where the Western "freedom/values" ideologue takes us...


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It's rather ironic and an interesting dichotomy how the UN on one hand professes it's capitalist ideals and rejection of communist/dictatorship societies, whilst at the same time actually perpetrating those very ideals.


No, the confusion lies in your own brain, the physiology of which you don't understand  (ie division into the instinctive reptilian brain and conscious/thinking cortex brain, as you will   proceed to show us...

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The whole structure of the UN and world governance/laws/financial systems etc is based on the world "commune" being served best, in the interests of all the "community", by serving one master; the UN.
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Not bad, but the word "master"  betrays you: the UN was created to avoid a repeat of WW2 in the age of MAD.  (The creation failed because the reptilian brain demands individual/national sovereignty, in opposition to international law). 

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It's always interesting to hear intellectual "elites" profess the need for human freedom/democracy and identity etc



The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a statement in favour of universal security and collective well-being.

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only to then espouse the virtues of everyone being under the one "leader",with no tribalism, all conforming to the same rules and systems Dictated by a single entity.
No-one seems to actually grasp that dichotomy.


Tribal conflict belongs to the Neanderthal age; in the age of MAD we need the "single entity" of  an international rules-based system which outlaws "legal" war. 
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Reply #190 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 3:11pm
 
goosecat wrote on Jun 11th, 2022 at 3:26pm:
The benefits of Communism and Dictatorship are well known, just look to the UN for confirmation.
It's rather ironic and an interesting dichotomy how the UN on one hand professes it's capitalist ideals and rejection of communist/dictatorship societies, whilst at the same time actually perpetrating those very ideals.
The whole structure of the UN and world governance/laws/financial systems etc is based on the world "commune" being served best, in the interests of all the "community", by serving one master; the UN.
It's always interesting to hear intellectual "elites" profess the need for human freedom/democracy and identity etc only to then espouse the virtues of everyone being under the one "leader",with no tribalism, all conforming to the same rules and systems Dictated by a single entity.
No-one seems to actually grasp that dichotomy.


It's like you're mentally ill.... We both know you cna't defend this.

It's just that socialism builds a society
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Reply #191 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 7:20pm
 
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Reply #192 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 7:28pm
 
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Reply #193 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 7:59pm
 
Africa, Asia, Europe and Oceania are pretty crap at Politics.
They should leave Politics to their women - they're more professional.

N.America, S.America, Sahul and Mid-East are better at Politics in the hands of men.

Sadly, North America is still not truly 'Western' - its been run by a European equivalent of North 'Blue' Europe (Vikings) and South 'Grey' Europe (Romans) via their Media.

Funny how Trump wanted 'domestic' Nationalism, while once the Blue Democrats get in - its over to Europe for some War. Roll Eyes
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Reply #194 - Jun 15th, 2022 at 1:42pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 14th, 2022 at 7:28pm:


Conclusion : the US needs more collectivism, China needs more individualism.

Unfortunately, the US constitution is a barrier ..individuals  have a "right" to bear arms against their own neighbours. Madness. 
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