What about all the deaths from mental health impacts, suicide, deferred medical exams, deferred cancer screenings, deferred surgeries, deferred cardiac treatments, reduced capacity and availability of all forms of medical care etc etc?

Ajax wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 12:57am:


This may well be your opinion, but to have any relevance it needs to be
supported with a couple of accredited citations.  Otherwise it's nothing
more than anecdotal hearsay.

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Again, anecdotal, and not verified evidence.

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Misleading.  Messenger RNA, or mRNA, was discovered in the early 1960s;
research into how mRNA could be delivered into cells was developed in the
1970s.  Human trials of cancer vaccines using mRNA technology have been
taking place since at least 2011. But it took until the 2020 pandemic for the
first mRNA vaccine to be brought to market.

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Mathew LLoyd has no medical qualifications, so cannot make any claims about
a purported connection between Bell's Palsy and Covid.  There is also no evidence
that that there's been an increase in cardiovascular conditions since the introduction
of the vaccines—that are directly caused by the vaccine itself.  Covid actually
causes a lot more myocarditis and pericarditis than any of the vaccines.

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Wines and his cardiologist shot down any connection with his heart arrhythmia and
the Covid vaccine after he was released from hospital days later.      End of story.

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No, they're not "shot down".  They're confronted with accredited medical facts and
figures that prove their conspiracy theories are without any supporting evidence. 
Just as you've not provided any evidence for your claims.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:


Yeah I know. I wonder why.

Now we know.....





By TOM WHIPPLE
THE TIMES
5:52PM JUNE 10, 2022

It may have been the most disastrous one-night stand in the history of humanity. Sixty thousand years ago in the Middle East, two humans, slightly different in looks and stature, met and had sex.

As a direct consequence of that liaison between two of our ancestors – one of them a Neanderthal – many of us have a genetic tweak that doubles our risk of severe Covid – leading, scientists estimated, to as many as a million pandemic deaths.

“If this dinner date between the human and the Neanderthal had gone wrong … we would have had hundreds of thousands less deaths,” said James Davies, from the University of Oxford.

Associate Professor Davies, who was part of the team who characterised the genetic consequences of that meeting, described it as the ultimate example of the “butterfly effect”, in which a tiny perturbation can have momentous consequences.

The change was discovered by comparing the genomes of about 2000 people who had suffered from severe Covid with the same number who did not, and looking for common differences. One stood out.

“It’s a single-letter difference out of three billion,” Prof Davies said. “This tiny section of DNA doubles your risk of dying from Covid.”

The physical difference, Prof Davies said, came down to the alignment of a few atoms. “It’s position 45,818,159 on chromosome three, and it’s a single change,” he said. “If you’ve got a G (molecule) at that site, it’s low risk. And if you have an A at that site, it’s high risk.”

Although all Europeans have a small proportion of Neanderthal DNA, the suite of changes accompanying this one crucial tweak show that it must have come from a single encounter that resulted in a single child.

Prof Davies believes that if you have the high-risk variant, a previously understudied gene called LZTFL1 is overactivated. This means that cells in the lungs are slower to launch defences in response to infection, making them more susceptible for longer.

Simon Underdown, a biological anthropologist at Oxford Brookes University, is of the view that this interspecies sex should not be considered so odd.

“We now have much more sensitive reconstructions of the Neanderthals and, arguably, they look just like us,” he said.

Dr Underdown believes they would not even have recognised they were different. They were different enough, however, that 60,000 years on, the genetics sown at that one romantic meeting reaped a pandemic whirlwind.

Frank wrote on Jun 11^th, 2022 at 11:33pm:


More likely, the men were killed and the women raped repeatedly before most of them were also eaten.  Bones of neanderthals often show cut marks from butchering.

Romance?  Really?

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2022 at 11:01am:


The skull shapes of a NRL player and an AFL player are remarkably different. Scientists are yet to confirm the age difference between these two species of Homo-Boofheadius.