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Re: Two more mass shootings
Reply #90 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:17pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
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US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

and, remove the poor 3rd world countries, countries that have a strong US influence .
So we can compare apples with apples ......

My comment here was inadvertently mixed up

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Reply #91 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

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Re: Two more mass shootings
Reply #92 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:51pm:

No gun has ever shot a person on their own, guns don't go around randomly shooting people, there is always a person pulling the trigger.

Janifer Bliss, age 53, was shot in the lower left leg while in a stall of a ladies’ room at a local hotel.

Says the news source, “Police said the woman in the next stall accidentally let her handgun slip out of her waist holster, and the weapon discharged when it hit the ground…

The gun belonged to Debra Monce, 56, of Land o’ Lakes.

She has a concealed weapons permit for the small-caliber handgun, but the case has been referred to the State Attorney’s Office for review.”

No finger on the trigger.

Just waiting for you to tell me about the gun that broke into somebodies house and shot them dead.

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Re: Two more mass shootings
Reply #93 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:26pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

Can't remember the last time there was a shooting where there was no gun involved.

what about murders, have you ever heard of a murder where there was no people involved?.

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Reply #94 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

Indeed.

I've yet to find a case of death by gunshot where a gun isn't involved.

Whether the shooter has mental health problems or not, whether they had a bad childhood or not, whether they were unemployed or not, whether they were high on drugs or not, there was always a gun involved.

Every. Single. Time. A gun.

So, I think it's safe to assume that guns are the problem when it comes to death by gunshot.

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Reply #95 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:30pm

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

No gun has ever shot a person on their own, guns don't go around randomly shooting people, there is always a person pulling the trigger.

Exactly....That is why there should be background checks and restrictions on assault rifles....The situation is created by allowing anyone access to deadly firearms with impunity and the support of the stupid!!!

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Re: Two more mass shootings
Reply #96 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

Indeed.

I've yet to find a case of death by gunshot where a gun isn't involved.

Whether the shooter has mental health problems or not, whether they had a bad childhood or not, whether they were unemployed or not, whether they were high on drugs or not, there was always a gun involved.

Every. Single. Time. A gun.

So, I think it's safe to assume that guns are the problem when it comes to death by gunshot.

So what about knives, are they the problem with stabbings, is it people or is it knives that are the problem.

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Reply #97 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:37pm

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:14pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:51pm:

No gun has ever shot a person on their own, guns don't go around randomly shooting people, there is always a person pulling the trigger.

Janifer Bliss, age 53, was shot in the lower left leg while in a stall of a ladies’ room at a local hotel.

Says the news source, “Police said the woman in the next stall accidentally let her handgun slip out of her waist holster, and the weapon discharged when it hit the ground…

The gun belonged to Debra Monce, 56, of Land o’ Lakes.

She has a concealed weapons permit for the small-caliber handgun, but the case has been referred to the State Attorney’s Office for review.”

No finger on the trigger.

Just waiting for you to tell me about the gun that broke into somebodies house and shot them dead.

Why? That's not what you said.

You quite clearly stated: "there is always a person pulling the trigger."

Yet ...

In 1993, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes dropped a loaded handgun and it shot him in the face, blinding him in his left eye.

Would you like to move the goalposts again?

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Reply #98 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:48pm

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

Indeed.

I've yet to find a case of death by gunshot where a gun isn't involved.

Whether the shooter has mental health problems or not, whether they had a bad childhood or not, whether they were unemployed or not, whether they were high on drugs or not, there was always a gun involved.

Every. Single. Time. A gun.

So, I think it's safe to assume that guns are the problem when it comes to death by gunshot.

So what about knives, are they the problem with stabbings, is it people or is it knives that are the problem.

Knives.

It's impossible to die from a knife stab wound without a knife being present.

So, how many times have mass stabbings resulted in the deaths of 19 children in the USA?

How many mass stabbings have there been in the USA?

And, do knives have any purpose other than stabbing?

You can either answer the questions, or move the goalposts again - I'll leave it up to you.

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Reply #99 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:00pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

and, remove the poor 3rd world countries, countries that have a strong US influence .
So we can compare apples with apples ......

Now now, Sprint, why should we remove all the countries the US sends its guns to?

They wouldn't be shooting each other if they weren't tinted.

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Reply #100 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:51pm:

No gun has ever shot a person on their own, guns don't go around randomly shooting people, there is always a person pulling the trigger.

you moron

Yes, JS, but Steam may have a point. Those guns wouldn't shoot anybody if they didn't have a bad guy buying them off a good guy who used to make Fords and Chevvies and Levis back in the good old days when America was great again.

He'd still be doing that too, if they didn't go out of fashion and no one wanted to buy them anymore.

Trust the leftards - so fickle.

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Reply #101 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 4:36pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

[quote author=Frank link=1654481464/72#72 date=1654577493]Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019
El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41
......

US - 7.8

Countries with the Highest Total Gun Deaths (all causes) in 2019
Brazil — 49,436
United States — 37,038
Venezuela — 28,515
Mexico — 22,116
India — 14,710
Colombia — 13,169
Philippines — 9,267
Guatemala — 5,980

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Guns aren't the problem.......

Oh, but they are.

19 children are lying in small graves today because of gunshot wounds.

The bad guy couldn't have shot those little kids to death if he didn't have a gun.

The gun was the root problem.

Well, whenever there is a shooting, there seems to be a gun involved.

Whenever there is a 'good guy with a gun who heroically kills a bad guy with a gun' ....... there are guns involved.

Indeed.

I've yet to find a case of death by gunshot where a gun isn't involved.

Whether the shooter has mental health problems or not, whether they had a bad childhood or not, whether they were unemployed or not, whether they were high on drugs or not, there was always a gun involved.

Every. Single. Time. A gun.

So, I think it's safe to assume that guns are the problem when it comes to death by gunshot.

So what about knives, are they the problem with stabbings, is it people or is it knives that are the problem.

Knives.

It's impossible to die from a knife stab wound without a knife being present.

So, how many times have mass stabbings resulted in the deaths of 19 children in the USA?

How many mass stabbings have there been in the USA?

And, do knives have any purpose other than stabbing?

You can either answer the questions, or move the goalposts again - I'll leave it up to you.

Wink

Well, there was Jack the Ripper, Greggery.

Do try to keep up, dear. The leftards would have everybody going around stabbing each other if they had their way, you know.

Despicable.

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Reply #102 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

the guns arent the root of the problem.

the root of the problem is that americans have become nihilistic and lost.

they bounce out of bed with no positive aim, no direction in life.

they have outsourced most of their manufacturing so rich corps can make a bit more cash.

the chodes have been told that just being 'stimulated" by sugar, salt, fat, porn, disney land, hollywood ,nintendos,oxy, coke , alcohol and outrage on social media will construct for them a "happy life"

nothing could be further from the truth

the lack of adversity and the addiction to momentary pleasures leaves them desperate and chaotic.

and that manifests as a will to destruction.

the idle mind is the devils playground

Quote:

the guns arent the root of the problem.

They are 100% the root of the problem.

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Reply #103 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:49pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

the guns arent the root of the problem.

the root of the problem is that americans have become nihilistic and lost.

they bounce out of bed with no positive aim, no direction in life.

they have outsourced most of their manufacturing so rich corps can make a bit more cash.

the chodes have been told that just being 'stimulated" by sugar, salt, fat, porn, disney land, hollywood ,nintendos,oxy, coke , alcohol and outrage on social media will construct for them a "happy life"

nothing could be further from the truth

the lack of adversity and the addiction to momentary pleasures leaves them desperate and chaotic.

and that manifests as a will to destruction.

the idle mind is the devils playground

Quote:

the guns arent the root of the problem.

They are 100% the root of the problem.

Dnarever, that's so negative. What if one bounces out of bed with a plan to shoot everybody?

A good guy, I mean. Not tinted. Does he not have feelings too?

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Reply #104 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 7:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 5:48pm:

Knives.

It's impossible to die from a knife stab wound without a knife being present.

So, how many times have mass stabbings resulted in the deaths of 19 children in the USA?

How many mass stabbings have there been in the USA?

And, do knives have any purpose other than stabbing?

You can either answer the questions, or move the goalposts again - I'll leave it up to you.

Wink

BLOODY STREETS Britain’s knife epidemic laid bare as cops face 30 blade crimed a DAY across the country

BRITAIN's knife crime epidemic has been laid bare as cops in the worst hit areas of the country face 30 blade incidents every day.

The chilling figures come as a 14-year-old boy appeared in court charged with stabbing 12-year-old Ava White to death in Liverpool.
The new stats reveal forces right across the UK are dealing with thousands of cases every year.

London - the knife crime capital of Britain - recorded a huge 10,130 incidents last year, which is around 27 a day.

The next deadliest spot for knife crime is the West Midlands, where police raced to 4,562 incidents last year.

In Greater Manchester there were 3,073 flashpoints, while West Yorkshire officers recorded 2,200 cases and Essex dealt with 1,589 incidents.

Merseyside, where tragic Ava lost her life, is among the top ten spots in the UK and recorded 1,225 cases last year alone.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16939793/britain-knife-epidemic-laid-bare/

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