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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #30 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:14pm freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:23pm: I cannot think of anything attributable to capitalism that compares to what communists did through evil intent or incompetence. Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong. I have, but you cannot read
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Reply #31 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:18pm

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

My answer is, you cannot count.

But keep trying, that's what counts.

you try anything other than an answer ehh. What are you afraid off ?

by the way it was 2 questions so the only one who cannot count is you

Question ONE :So weapons companies lobbying members of governments to go to war after war after war don't count?

Question TWO : People that dies in cars,trucks,planes and buses because someone tried to cut corners to increase profits don't count?

lets see what sort of stupidity you'll use to try and avoid answering this time. Roll Eyes

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Reply #32 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:20pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

I think I know what is going on. Future joined Antifa because he felt ashamed of all the Nazis in his family. It was full of communists and Muslim sympathisers, so he instinctively sees them as a the good guys. He now rails against fascism, while reflexively supporting probably the two biggest groups of fascists in human history, oblivious to the sheer scale of suffering they have inflicted on their fellow man. He has a fetish for Nazis, but fascism runs in his blood, and he still cannot see it, no matter how patiently it is pointed out to him.

I am not ashamed. I have been aware from a young age. I still await your instructions on how to join antifa.

bugger me the right are dense

The idea that things are passed in bloodlines is Nazism

Why did you lie about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality?

And where do you get your 'alternative facts' from?

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Reply #33 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 7:00pm

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:38pm:

I think I know what is going on. Future joined Antifa because he felt ashamed of all the Nazis in his family. It was full of communists and Muslim sympathisers, so he instinctively sees them as a the good guys. He now rails against fascism, while reflexively supporting probably the two biggest groups of fascists in human history, oblivious to the sheer scale of suffering they have inflicted on their fellow man. He has a fetish for Nazis, but fascism runs in his blood, and he still cannot see it, no matter how patiently it is pointed out to him.

Jesus - that's bordering on the theme of an episode of my under-construction TV series..... with the exception that poor old Lefty is a politician...

"You know that what I did was for the best for all!"

**considers and relents*

"Yes - i agree totally... you did it all for the best good...."

**turns to door and hand on handle ... Lefty looks relieved**

"....... that's why we're only going to arrest you once..."

**opens door to two waiting Feds.. they enter meaningfully... hero walks away down corridor**

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Reply #34 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 7:42pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:10pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:08pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:07pm:

You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?

Nazis, duh.

How many did they kill?

I am bored of you already. Google the holocaust if you don't know

I know. I am just trying to figure out why you are so full of crap. Google cannot tell me that.

How many people do you think the Nazis killed because of their religion?

No one has ever studied the holocaust. OK boomer

Elie Wiesel? Simon Wiesenthal?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11736 Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #35 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 7:46pm FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:14pm: I have been aware from a young age. So you're of German or Austrian ancestry, then? European Jewish descent?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Victims of communism Reply #36 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 8:20pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 7:46pm: FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:14pm: I have been aware from a young age. So you're of German or Austrian ancestry, then? European Jewish descent? His family were Nazis, or so he claims.
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Reply #37 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 8:27pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 7:46pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

I have been aware from a young age.

So you're of German or Austrian ancestry, then? European Jewish descent?

You should answer him Future, race and ethnicity are really important to Nazis, they can't relate to you till you have been racially categorised. Just trying to help.

Carry on ...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Victims of communism Reply #38 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 8:31pm How can someone rail against fascism, yet be so completely ignorant of it's biggest perpetrators?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83705 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #39 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 9:32pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
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Reply #41 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 9:38pm

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 8:31pm:

How can someone rail against fascism, yet be so completely ignorant of it's biggest perpetrators?

Personal choice or serious mental problem. Many babushkas still revere Stalin and rue his loss to Mother Russia

and-a Mama she say:- "He just a good Russian boy! He don' do nothing to nobody! The West they pick on him always because he Russian! Only he defend the people from Fascist!"

When you decide for yourself that you can call anyone a 'fascist' for any reason - it then becomes easy to dispose of them as enemies of the state and people, destroyers of the economy, and baby killers ....look at Lefty's posts - 'we' - thus far undefined but everybody - are 'killing kids' and 'have ruined the future for everyone' - reasons never given and in his mind not needed ..... he 'feels' it therefore it is.

That is why I hit on the reality - way back - that Lefty is totally insane, but sane enough to know what he is raving about - and therefore criminally liable.......... watch that space.

He is as liable as a Nazi leader who pushes genocide...... and should be locked up now before he causes anyone real harm. He says often that he is mocking.... yep - just like Johnny Ringo here.. 'oh - I was only foolin'!":-

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Reply #42 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 10:03pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

If you split the deaths caused by communism into deliberate extermination and death due to failure of the state to provide the basic services that communism intends them to (eg the Great Chinese Famine), which would be greater?

I don't thinks the Russian and Chinese famines were "failures to provide". They were engineered, in the Soviet Ukrainian case, to force collectivisation.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor#ref1264568
The Chinese famines were also engineered by the communist leadership, they called it the great leap forward (another glaring and sad example of communist double speak, as Orwell nailed it).

Orwell was a socialist

Most of us are Orwellian style socialists.... that does not make us communists. Get with it... you're going down again, boy.

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Reply #43 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 10:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:23pm:

I cannot think of anything attributable to capitalism that compares to what communists did through evil intent or incompetence. Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong.

So weapons companies lobbying members of governments to go to war after war after war don't count?

People that dies in cars,trucks,planes and buses because someone tried to cut corners to increase profits don't count?

They count - but they are not in the same category.

And no war has EVER started because of the lobbying of weapons manufacturers. None. Ever.

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Reply #44 - Jun 10^th, 2022 at 10:45pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:11pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:

If you split the deaths caused by communism into deliberate extermination and death due to failure of the state to provide the basic services that communism intends them to (eg the Great Chinese Famine), which would be greater?

I don't thinks the Russian and Chinese famines were "failures to provide". They were engineered, in the Soviet Ukrainian case, to force collectivisation.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor#ref1264568
The Chinese famines were also engineered by the communist leadership, they called it the great leap forward (another glaring and sad example of communist double speak, as Orwell nailed it).

Orwell was a socialist

A thoughtful, self-aware, sophisticated, thinking one, unlike you, a bumtious, ignorant, unlettered two bit screamer.

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