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Reply #315 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 10:57am

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 24^th, 2022 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 24^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

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"Free" Europe is an economic disaster for many of its citizens, and certainly hasn't earned the right to criticize "totalitarian" regimes.

Who HAS the right to criticise totalitarian regimes, then? Only other totalitarian regimes?

No; societies which can demonstrate achievement of the general welfare and the common good, which (by the way) the search for which is why some nations went down the totalitarian route, seeing the democracies are mostly rabbles of greedy adversarial groups arguing about "other peoples' money", resulting in generational disadvantage remaining entrenched.

So who HAS the right to criticise totalitarian regimes like China?

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Reply #316 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 11:06am

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

Does explain why democracies are failing everywhere, in dysfunctional hyper-partisan rabbles; and why war is still legal in the age of MAD.

Democracies are failing everywhere, eh!

Of course. That'd be why you're loading up the truck to move in with the CCP.

China that is: slavery, poverty.

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Reply #317 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 3:29pm

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 10:57am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 24^th, 2022 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 24^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

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"Free" Europe is an economic disaster for many of its citizens, and certainly hasn't earned the right to criticize "totalitarian" regimes.

Who HAS the right to criticise totalitarian regimes, then? Only other totalitarian regimes?

No; societies which can demonstrate achievement of the general welfare and the common good, which (by the way) the search for which is why some nations went down the totalitarian route, seeing the democracies are mostly rabbles of greedy adversarial groups arguing about "other peoples' money", resulting in generational disadvantage remaining entrenched.

So who HAS the right to criticise totalitarian regimes like China?

Societies which can demonstrate achievement of the sustainable general welfare and the common good.

...in short, thus far: no one has gained that right...... (and even Scandinavia's unemployment rates are a disgrace....)

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Reply #318 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 3:43pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 11:06am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

Does explain why democracies are failing everywhere, in dysfunctional hyper-partisan rabbles; and why war is still legal in the age of MAD.

Democracies are failing everywhere, eh!

Of course. That'd be why you're loading up the truck to move in with the CCP.

China that is: slavery, poverty.

Fortunately I'm retired: but there's no way I would work as a teacher or a nurse in Oz now ...the s**t will soon hit the fan, when Albo finds he can't pay decent wages to public sector workers, given the current evil neoliberal orthodoxy.

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Reply #319 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 11:06am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

Does explain why democracies are failing everywhere, in dysfunctional hyper-partisan rabbles; and why war is still legal in the age of MAD.

Democracies are failing everywhere, eh!

Of course. That'd be why you're loading up the truck to move in with the CCP.

China that is: slavery, poverty.

Fortunately I'm retired: but there's no way I would work as a teacher or a nurse in Oz now ...the s**t will soon hit the fan, when Albo finds he can't pay decent wages to public sector workers, given the current evil neoliberal orthodoxy.

I'd bet you're glad - take it for granted even - that when you do your weekly shopping and pay by card, that your transaction request is not rejected by the bank because the governing regime has expropriated your personal funds and blocked your account.

Any complaints, you can see the guy in black holding a sub-machine gun to your face, in case you get a mind to 'cause quarrels and disturb the public order'.

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Reply #320 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:37pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 11:06am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

Does explain why democracies are failing everywhere, in dysfunctional hyper-partisan rabbles; and why war is still legal in the age of MAD.

Democracies are failing everywhere, eh!

Of course. That'd be why you're loading up the truck to move in with the CCP.

China that is: slavery, poverty.

Fortunately I'm retired: but there's no way I would work as a teacher or a nurse in Oz now ...the s**t will soon hit the fan, when Albo finds he can't pay decent wages to public sector workers, given the current evil neoliberal orthodoxy.

I'd bet you're glad - take it for granted even - that when you do your weekly shopping and pay by card, that your transaction request is not rejected by the bank because the governing regime has expropriated your personal funds and blocked your account.

Any complaints, you can see the guy in black holding a sub-machine gun to your face, in case you get a mind to 'cause quarrels and disturb the public order'.

Spoken by a comfortable conservative - the most ignorant of the human condition, and hence the most despicable.

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Reply #321 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:37pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 4:19pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 3:43pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 11:06am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 25^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:

Does explain why democracies are failing everywhere, in dysfunctional hyper-partisan rabbles; and why war is still legal in the age of MAD.

Democracies are failing everywhere, eh!

Of course. That'd be why you're loading up the truck to move in with the CCP.

China that is: slavery, poverty.

Fortunately I'm retired: but there's no way I would work as a teacher or a nurse in Oz now ...the s**t will soon hit the fan, when Albo finds he can't pay decent wages to public sector workers, given the current evil neoliberal orthodoxy.

I'd bet you're glad - take it for granted even - that when you do your weekly shopping and pay by card, that your transaction request is not rejected by the bank because the governing regime has expropriated your personal funds and blocked your account.

Any complaints, you can see the guy in black holding a sub-machine gun to your face, in case you get a mind to 'cause quarrels and disturb the public order'.

Spoken by a comfortable conservative - the most ignorant of the human condition, and hence the most despicable.

Spoken by a committed centrist.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12439 Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #322 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Spoken by a committed centrist. Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11736 Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #323 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:55pm thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Spoken by a committed centrist. Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not. You won't live that long.
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Reply #324 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Spoken by a committed centrist.

Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.

You won't live that long.

As already noted, that's not deba.. oh, never mind.

You have exposed yourself as an evasive fraud incapable of debate; join the ranks of frauds like frauddiver.

[And you might be tempting fate: I'm reminded of a lovely cantata by Bach :" Wer weiss, wie nahe mir mein Ende!" (BWV 27). It applies to all of us.... ]

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Reply #325 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Spoken by a committed centrist.

Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.

You won't live that long.

As already noted, that's not deba.. oh, never mind.

You have exposed yourself as an evasive fraud incapable of debate; join the ranks of frauds like frauddiver.

You've lived an empty life. Break the cycle. Don't get cremated; make sure you fill an empty grave.

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Reply #326 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Spoken by a committed centrist.

Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.

You won't live that long.

As already noted, that's not deba.. oh, never mind.

You have exposed yourself as an evasive fraud incapable of debate; join the ranks of frauds like frauddiver.

You've lived an empty life. Break the cycle. Don't get cremated; make sure you fill an empty grave.

you missed the edit above:

(Re my life span), you might be tempting fate; I'm reminded of a lovely cantata by Bach :" Wer weiss, wie nahe mir mein Ende!" (BWV 27). It applies to all of us....

As for your evil ideology, that's for the universe to deal with.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44409 Gender:	Re: Victims of communism Reply #327 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:39pm thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm: Spoken by a committed centrist. Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not. Debate, eh??
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Reply #328 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:45pm

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Spoken by a committed centrist.

Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.

Debate, eh??

ah ...at last... signs of mental life flickering in the comfortable conservative.

Show us why your ideology is anything more than self-interested survival of the fittest filth, by addressing/defining "aboriginal well-being, in the modern world"...and hence closing the gap.

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Reply #329 - Aug 26^th, 2022 at 7:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:38pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 6:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 26^th, 2022 at 5:42pm:

Spoken by a committed centrist.

Nah.... I want to overthrow your evil neoliberal orthodoxy, hardly "centrist" - whether 'comfortable' or not.

You won't live that long.

As already noted, that's not deba.. oh, never mind.

You have exposed yourself as an evasive fraud incapable of debate; join the ranks of frauds like frauddiver.

You've lived an empty life. Break the cycle. Don't get cremated; make sure you fill an empty grave.

you missed the edit above:

(Re my life span), you might be tempting fate; I'm reminded of a lovely cantata by Bach :" Wer weiss, wie nahe mir mein Ende!" (BWV 27). It applies to all of us....

As for your evil ideology, that's for the universe to deal with.

Evil schmevil.

Who do you honestly think is happier with their system of government? The people of the west, or the Chinese with their necks under the boot of the CCP?

Bearing in mind that the CCP leaderhip are stunned that democracy has thrived in India, given that the Chinese people respect India as the bearers of an ancient culture, like themselves, and with a population to match.

The CCP leadership can't imagine anything other than totalitarian government, not least because totalitarianism gives them the best shot at a guaranteed job for life.

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