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Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:39pm
 
Why don’t we remember the victims of communism?


Presented by Douglas Murray and produced by Sean Glynn – and which you can listen to, via Soundcloud, below –  examines our failure to remember the victims of communism, in the way that we, rightly, remember the victims of Nazi-ism.

Talking to a wide range of people including David Aaronovitch, Anne Applebaum, Janos Horvath, David Pryce Jones and Giles Udy, Douglas explores why the communist ideology that killed many more people than Nazi Germany – and in many more parts of the world, from Russia to China and to Cambodia – is so poorly remembered in art, education or in public monuments and museums. He begins by noting that young people in Britain might overwhelmingly and correctly identify Adolf Hitler as a source of evil. Most, tragically, don’t even know who Lenin or Mao or Pol Pot are.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/douglas-murray-victims-communism/



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Reply #1 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:42pm
 
If you split the deaths caused by communism into deliberate extermination and death due to failure of the state to provide the basic services that communism intends them to (eg the Great Chinese Famine), which would be greater?
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Reply #2 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Why don’t we remember the victims of communism?


Presented by Douglas Murray and produced by Sean Glynn – and which you can listen to, via Soundcloud, below –  examines our failure to remember the victims of communism, in the way that we, rightly, remember the victims of Nazi-ism.

Talking to a wide range of people including David Aaronovitch, Anne Applebaum, Janos Horvath, David Pryce Jones and Giles Udy, Douglas explores why the communist ideology that killed many more people than Nazi Germany – and in many more parts of the world, from Russia to China and to Cambodia – is so poorly remembered in art, education or in public monuments and museums. He begins by noting that young people in Britain might overwhelmingly and correctly identify Adolf Hitler as a source of evil. Most, tragically, don’t even know who Lenin or Mao or Pol Pot are.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/douglas-murray-victims-communism/





Why don't we remember the victims of capitalism????

"the communist ideology that killed many more people than Nazi Germany"

HAHAHAA!! Let's pretend this is true.  One reason is no one was killed for their religion or sexuality
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Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
If you split the deaths caused by communism into deliberate extermination and death due to failure of the state to provide the basic services that communism intends them to (eg the Great Chinese Famine), which would be greater?


The deaths from capitalism are all the latter
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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:45pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Why don’t we remember the victims of communism?


Presented by Douglas Murray and produced by Sean Glynn – and which you can listen to, via Soundcloud, below –  examines our failure to remember the victims of communism, in the way that we, rightly, remember the victims of Nazi-ism.

Talking to a wide range of people including David Aaronovitch, Anne Applebaum, Janos Horvath, David Pryce Jones and Giles Udy, Douglas explores why the communist ideology that killed many more people than Nazi Germany – and in many more parts of the world, from Russia to China and to Cambodia – is so poorly remembered in art, education or in public monuments and museums. He begins by noting that young people in Britain might overwhelmingly and correctly identify Adolf Hitler as a source of evil. Most, tragically, don’t even know who Lenin or Mao or Pol Pot are.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/douglas-murray-victims-communism/





Why don't we remember the victims of capitalism????

"the communist ideology that killed many more people than Nazi Germany"

HAHAHAA!! Let's pretend this is true.  One reason is no one was killed for their religion or sexuality


Why are communist stooges so full of crap?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

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The Communist Party destroyed churches, synagogues,[5] and mosques, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with anti-religious teachings, and it introduced a belief system called "scientific atheism," with its own rituals, promises and proselytizers.[6][7] According to some sources, the total number of Christian victims under the Soviet regime has been estimated to range around 12 to 20 million.[8][9] At least 106,300 Russian clergymen were executed between 1937 and 1941.

Soviet Marxist-Leninist policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and ultimately, the elimination of religious beliefs, and it actively encouraged the propagation of Marxist-Leninist atheism in the Soviet Union.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_LGBT_rights

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During World War II, some Yugoslav Partisans issued several death sentences during the war against partisans whose homosexuality was revealed.

The Encyclopedia of Homosexuality volume two is unequivocal on Marx and Engels view of homosexuality, stating: "There can be little doubt that, as far as they thought of the matter at all, Marx and Engels were personally homo-phobic

In 1933, Article 121 was added to the entire Soviet Union criminal code, which made male homosexuality a crime punishable by up to five years in prison with hard labor. The law remained intact until after the dissolution of the Soviet Union; it was repealed in 1993.

The Revolutionary Communist Party USA's previous policy that "struggle will be waged to eliminate [homosexuality] and reform homosexuals" was ended in 2001.

Before the Cuban Revolution, Cuba had laws that criminalized homosexual men.


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Reply #5 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
Before the Cuban Revolution, Cuba had laws that criminalized homosexual men.


Read that out loud LOL!!!
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After the Revolution, the position regarding homosexuality continued to be negative, and some LGBT people chose to emigrate,[70][71] since homosexuality was linked to US imperialism.


You missed the important question - why are communist stooges so full of crap? And where did you get this idiotic notion from that communists did not kill people for their religion or sexuality? Is your reading so selective that you still think it is true?
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Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:02pm:
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After the Revolution, the position regarding homosexuality continued to be negative, and some LGBT people chose to emigrate,[70][71] since homosexuality was linked to US imperialism.


You missed the important question - why are communist stooges so full of crap? And where did you get this idiotic notion from that communists did not kill people for their religion or sexuality?


Honeslty, when I see your name, I disengage.

I know the right lie about Che killing gays, for example. There's a lot of right wing propaganda.  I don't care.  I'm not a mad Stalin fan.  I'm not even a communist.  I am just pointing out you are a liar
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Reply #8 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm
 
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality. Why would you do that if you do not even like communism? Why are communist stooges so full of crap?

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?
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freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?


Nazis, duh. 
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Reply #10 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?


Nazis, duh. 


How many did they kill?
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Reply #11 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?


Nazis, duh. 


How many did they kill?


I am bored of you already.  Google the holocaust if you don't know
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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
If you split the deaths caused by communism into deliberate extermination and death due to failure of the state to provide the basic services that communism intends them to (eg the Great Chinese Famine), which would be greater?

I don't thinks the Russian and Chinese famines were "failures to provide". They were engineered, in the Soviet Ukrainian case, to force collectivisation.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor#ref1264568
The Chinese famines were also engineered by the communist leadership, they called it the great leap forward (another glaring and sad example of communist double speak, as Orwell nailed it).
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Reply #13 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:10pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?


Nazis, duh. 


How many did they kill?


I am bored of you already.  Google the holocaust if you don't know


I know. I am just trying to figure out why you are so full of crap. Google cannot tell me that.

How many people do you think the Nazis killed because of their religion?
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Reply #14 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:10pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:08pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
You lied about communists not killing people for their religion or sexuality

What do you think I lied about?

Try thinking before responding. Or at the very least, assuming we are not gullible enough to believe your lies. Who do you think killed more people because of their religion - Nazis or Communists?


Nazis, duh. 


How many did they kill?


I am bored of you already.  Google the holocaust if you don't know


I know. I am just trying to figure out why you are so full of crap. Google cannot tell me that.

How many people do you think the Nazis killed because of their religion?


No one has ever studied the holocaust.  OK boomer
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