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“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality



A professor of Ethics at Oslo Metropolitan University in Norway has called to legalize AI-generated child pornography, claiming that pedophilia should be seen as an innate sexuality that requires destigmatization.

Ole Martin Moen, a gay man who identifies as “queer,” currently serves as a member of the advisory board on Norway’s Patient Organization for Gender-Incongruence (PKI), a social and political lobby group for trans rights. According to their official website, PKI’s purpose is to provide access to “gender-affirming treatment” to the public “regardless of factors like non-binary identity, sexual practice or having other diagnosis.” Moen has also served as academic council at Civita, Norway’s largest liberal think tank, since 2015.

Recently, Moen targeted Christina Ellingsen, a Norwegian feminist who is facing a police investigation and a potential sentence of three years in prison for tweets in which she stated that men cannot be lesbians.

Moen has repeatedly harassed the Twitter account of Women’s Declaration International Norway, making false claims about the nature of the investigation against Ellingsen.

https://reduxx.info/queer-academic-recommends-pedophilia-be-taught-in-schools-as...


Ole has been an activist kiddie fiddler guru for years:
The ethics of pedophilia
Ole Martin Moen
Etikk I Praksis - Nordic Journal of Applied Ethics 1 (1):111-124 (2015)

Abstract
Pedophilia is bad. But how bad is it? And in what ways, and for what reasons, is it bad? This is a thorny issue, and sadly, one seldom discussed by ethicists. In this paper it is argued that pedophilia is bad only because, and only to the extent that, it causes harm to children, and that pedophilia itself, as well as pedophilic expressions and practices that do not cause harm to children, are morally all right. It is further argued that the aim of our social and legal treatment of pedophilia should be to minimize harm to children, and that current practice is often counterproductive in this respect.
https://philpapers.org/rec/MOETEO-4

Love is love, innit, and fantasizing about kiddie fiddling is morally all right.


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Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:33am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality



A professor of Ethics at Oslo Metropolitan University in Norway has called to legalize AI-generated child pornography, claiming that pedophilia should be seen as an innate sexuality that requires destigmatization.

Ole Martin Moen, a gay man who identifies as “queer,” currently serves as a member of the advisory board on Norway’s Patient Organization for Gender-Incongruence (PKI), a social and political lobby group for trans rights. According to their official website, PKI’s purpose is to provide access to “gender-affirming treatment” to the public “regardless of factors like non-binary identity, sexual practice or having other diagnosis.” Moen has also served as academic council at Civita, Norway’s largest liberal think tank, since 2015.

Recently, Moen targeted Christina Ellingsen, a Norwegian feminist who is facing a police investigation and a potential sentence of three years in prison for tweets in which she stated that men cannot be lesbians.

Moen has repeatedly harassed the Twitter account of Women’s Declaration International Norway, making false claims about the nature of the investigation against Ellingsen.

https://reduxx.info/queer-academic-recommends-pedophilia-be-taught-in-schools-as...


Ole has been an activist kiddie fiddler guru for years:
The ethics of pedophilia
Ole Martin Moen
Etikk I Praksis - Nordic Journal of Applied Ethics 1 (1):111-124 (2015)

Abstract
Pedophilia is bad. But how bad is it? And in what ways, and for what reasons, is it bad? This is a thorny issue, and sadly, one seldom discussed by ethicists. In this paper it is argued that pedophilia is bad only because, and only to the extent that, it causes harm to children, and that pedophilia itself, as well as pedophilic expressions and practices that do not cause harm to children, are morally all right. It is further argued that the aim of our social and legal treatment of pedophilia should be to minimize harm to children, and that current practice is often counterproductive in this respect.
https://philpapers.org/rec/MOETEO-4

Love is love, innit, and fantasizing about kiddie fiddling is morally all right.


The inmates of the barnyard look nervous reading this - they are next....





This lie has been told forever by sex obsessed right wing scum.  Some dickhead in academia says some outrageous poo and the right immediately claim that we couldn't have men marry each other without allowing child sex.  You've failed to comprehend the article you're quoted but it's still a fringe view and you're still scum

If our society EVER allows sex with children, it will have NOTHING to do with gay marriage.  The USA allows sex with children now, incidentally, and always did
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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:47am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality







So now you're trying to equate homosexuality or being trans with paedophilia?

You are truly disgusting.
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:50am
 
Kat wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:47am:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality







So now you're trying to conflate homosexuality or being trans with paedophilia?

You are truly disgusting.


They ALWAYS did this.  This has ALWAYS been the case.  Because to the religious right, everything that's not missionary between married people, is a sin, therefore in their minds, all these things are equal
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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:59am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:50am:
Kat wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:47am:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality







So now you're trying to conflate homosexuality or being trans with paedophilia?

You are truly disgusting.


They ALWAYS did this.  This has ALWAYS been the case. 
Because to the religious right, everything that's not missionary between married people, is a sin, therefore in their minds, all these things are equal



Yes, I know this.

It's still disgusting.
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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:02am
 
Kat wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:59am:
Yes, I know this.

It's still disgusting.


Yes, it always was.  Filthy people trying to police bedrooms and pretending to be motivated by morality....
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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:32am
 
Kat wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:47am:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality







So now you're trying to equate homosexuality or being trans with paedophilia?

You are truly disgusting.



Not conflate, they are each separate sexual perversions and personality disorders that can overlap to various extents - or not -  in particular cases. Overlap doesn't mean conflate.

But pedophilia is the next perversion/ disorder that is trying to be normalised.

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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:34am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:32am:
Not conflate, they are each separate sexual perversions and personality disorders that can overlap to various extents - or not -  in particular cases. Overlap doesn't mean conflate.

But pedophilia is the next perversion/ disorder that is trying to be normalised.


By whom? This is all bullshit, a lie you told FROM THE START.  Being gay or trans is not a perversion, for the simple reason it's a natural human state that doesn't harm anyone.  Gays are raising kids, I PROMISE you they hate child abusers.
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Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:44am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:32am:
Not conflate, they are each separate sexual perversions and personality disorders that can overlap to various extents



being a moron and criminality overlap too..


should you be behind bars?
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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:46am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:32am:
Kat wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:47am:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 8:12am:
“Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality







So now you're trying to equate homosexuality or being trans with paedophilia?

You are truly disgusting.



Not conflate, they are each separate sexual perversions and personality disorders that can overlap to various extents - or not -  in particular cases. Overlap doesn't mean conflate.

But pedophilia is the next perversion/ disorder that is trying to be normalised.


Not only but also:


…people with gender dysphoria, especially young people, have a high incidence of concomitant psychiatric diagnoses, self-harming behavior or suicide attempts compared with the rest of the population.

The diagnoses that stand out are depression, anxiety disorders, ADHD and autism. In the group of 13–17-year-olds who were registered as girls at birth and who were diagnosed with gender dysphoria, the comorbidity is greatest.”

Of these, had:

32.4 percent anxiety disorder
28.9 percent some form of depressive disorder
19.4 percent adhd
15.2 percent autism

That such a large proportion have concomitant psychiatric diagnoses is a factor that needs to be considered in more detail during the investigation of gender dysphoria.
https://www.vardfokus.se/samhalle/konsdysfori-som-diagnos-okar-kraftigt-bland-un...

NB - comorbidity. In over 95% of cases.

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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 9:46am:
…people with gender dysphoria, especially young people, have a high incidence of concomitant psychiatric diagnoses, self-harming behavior or suicide attempts compared with the rest of the population.

The diagnoses that stand out are depression, anxiety disorders, ADHD and autism. In the group of 13–17-year-olds who were registered as girls at birth and who were diagnosed with gender dysphoria, the comorbidity is greatest.”

Of these, had:

32.4 percent anxiety disorder
28.9 percent some form of depressive disorder
19.4 percent adhd
15.2 percent autism

That such a large proportion have concomitant psychiatric diagnoses is a factor that needs to be considered in more detail during the investigation of gender dysphoria.
https://www.vardfokus.se/samhalle/konsdysfori-som-diagnos-okar-kraftigt-bland-un...

NB - comorbidity.


Gender dysphoria STILL is not being trans, you illiterate maggot.  The suicide risk disappears if they have family support.

autism is not an illness, nor is it something that can develop, you are born with it.

Your link is bullshit, you moron
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This Swedish study showed that after transition transgender people have a 19x higher rate of suicide than matched controls:

Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885




Research shows that at least 75 percent of patients with gender dysphoria have other psychiatric problems. In the group of children and young adults, autism, eating disorders, self-harm behavior and abuse are common. For all these conditions there is evidence-based treatment. Given such, gender dysphoria often disappears, as it is usually secondary to these conditions.

The brain undergoes major changes during adolescence. Development takes place from the posterior part of the brain and moves forward. The last part of the brain to mature is the front lobe. This is where the capacity for holistic thinking, empathy and judgment lies. The brain is only fully developed at 25 to 30 years of age.

Since gender dysphoria often is secondary to psychiatric conditions for which there is evidence-based treatment and gender-corrective therapy for adolescents lacks scientific support, all gender-corrective therapy for patients younger than 25 years should be discontinued.

There needs to be an independent investigation into the probably biggest health scandal in our country’s history.

https://www.ihmistenkirjo.net/blog/psychiatrist-gender-dysphoria-spreads-like-an-epidemic-online?s=03
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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 10:02am:
Research shows that at least 75 percent of patients with gender dysphoria have other psychiatric problems. In the group of children and young adults, autism, eating disorders, self-harm behavior and abuse are common. For all these conditions there is evidence-based treatment. Given such, gender dysphoria often disappears, as it is usually secondary to these conditions.




GENDER DYSPHORIA IS NOT BEING TRANS

Jesus f&cking Christ
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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 10:02am:
Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885


There is no treatment for transsexualism.  There's just support.  You can't make people not trans, it's not possible.  So this is a bogus study.


Real studies show that the suicide risk disappears if they are supported, as I've told you at least 50 times. 

Stop crying, old man
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Reply #14 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 10:30am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 10:05am:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2022 at 10:02am:
Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885


There is no treatment for transsexualism.  There's just support.  You can't make people not trans, it's not possible.  So this is a bogus study.


Real studies show that the suicide risk disappears if they are supported, as I've told you at least 50 times. 

Stop crying, old man


You have not shown any evidence, you just repeat the same unsupported statement, Snotty. I provide sources.

https://i0.wp.com/4thwavenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/attemptedsuicide_odd...

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/142/4/e20174218/76767/Transgende...


Suicide risk remains significantly higher, regardless of being accepted.



In any case, they mostly mostly grow out of it, if they are allowed to develop.

http://www.sexologytoday.org/2016/01/do-trans-kids-stay-trans-when-they-grow_99.html
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