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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135731 Gender:	Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:04am They've admitted to it.
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Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:13am

A confidential witness for the FBI told federal agents that members of the far-right group the Proud Boys “would have killed” then-Vice President Mike Pence during the Capitol riot “if given a chance,” according to a House investigator probing the events of Jan. 6, 2021.

“Make no mistake about the fact that the vice president’s life was in danger,” Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA) said at Thursday’s public hearing.

The congressman explained that Proud Boy members had gotten within 40 feet of Pence after breaching the Capitol as the vice president was whisked away to a more secure location.

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Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:16am

An FBI witness says that members of the far-right Proud Boys had hoped to assassinate Vice President Mike Pence and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi during last week's violent storming of the U.S. Capitol.

An FBI special agent made the claim in an affidavit as part of a criminal complaint against 43-year-old Dominic Pezzola, who is accused of taking part in the riot in support of President Donald Trump's false claims that the presidential election was "stolen." Pezzola, who is also known as "Spaz," allegedly used a shield taken from a Capitol Police officer to smash a Capitol window before entering the building. An FBI witness said that the group Pezzola was with had discussed committing violent acts that went far beyond property damage.

"[The witness] stated that other members of the group talked about things that they had done during the day, and they said that anyone they got their hands on they would have killed, including Nancy Pelosi," the affidavit, which was filed Wednesday, reads. "[The witness] further stated that members of this group, which included 'Spaz,' said that they would have killed [Vice President] Mike Pence if given the chance."

"The group said it would be returning on the '20th,' which your affiant takes to mean the Presidential Inauguration scheduled for January 20, 2021," it continues. "And that they plan to kill every single 'm-fer' they can. [The witness] stated the men said they all had firearms or access to firearms."

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40562 Gender:	Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:37am I read that in todays Australian too. Very disappointed.
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:07am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:04am: They've admitted to it. Of course they were. Trump said hanging pence was a good idea
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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:07am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:37am: I read that in todays Australian too. Very disappointed. Anti fascists have mobilised to end proud boy violence forever. How are we surprised by this?
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Reply #6 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:20am

So all the evidence so far is hearsay.

Remember when FBI agents were more honest like Peter Strzok.

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Horowitz concluded that Strzok showed a “willingness to take official action” to hurt Trump’s electoral prospects, particularly in a text he sent telling Page “we’ll stop” Trump from being president.

Strzok, who was a deputy assistant director for counterintelligence at the bureau, has apologized for sending the messages and said they reflected personal views that did not affect his work. His attorney has said that had Strzok wanted to prevent Trump’s election, he could have leaked that Trump’s campaign was under investigation for possibly coordinating with Russia — a revelation that might have upended his presidential bid.

FBI agents are not what you call honest people that tell the truth.

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Reply #7 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:21am

Steampipe wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:20am:

So all the evidence so far is hearsay.

Remember when FBI agents were more honest like Peter Strzok.

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Horowitz concluded that Strzok showed a “willingness to take official action” to hurt Trump’s electoral prospects, particularly in a text he sent telling Page “we’ll stop” Trump from being president.

Strzok, who was a deputy assistant director for counterintelligence at the bureau, has apologized for sending the messages and said they reflected personal views that did not affect his work. His attorney has said that had Strzok wanted to prevent Trump’s election, he could have leaked that Trump’s campaign was under investigation for possibly coordinating with Russia — a revelation that might have upended his presidential bid.

FBI agents are not what you call honest people that tell the truth.

Your claim is the Proud Boys were lying and only like to bash poor minorities and not rich men standing in the way of their hate? On what basis?

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Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:38am

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:20am:

So all the evidence so far is hearsay.

Remember when FBI agents were more honest like Peter Strzok.

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Horowitz concluded that Strzok showed a “willingness to take official action” to hurt Trump’s electoral prospects, particularly in a text he sent telling Page “we’ll stop” Trump from being president.

Strzok, who was a deputy assistant director for counterintelligence at the bureau, has apologized for sending the messages and said they reflected personal views that did not affect his work. His attorney has said that had Strzok wanted to prevent Trump’s election, he could have leaked that Trump’s campaign was under investigation for possibly coordinating with Russia — a revelation that might have upended his presidential bid.

FBI agents are not what you call honest people that tell the truth.

Your claim is the Proud Boys were lying and only like to bash poor minorities and not rich men standing in the way of their hate? On what basis?

Where did I claim the proud boys are lying?.

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Reply #9 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:20pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Steampipe wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:20am:

So all the evidence so far is hearsay.

Remember when FBI agents were more honest like Peter Strzok.

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Horowitz concluded that Strzok showed a “willingness to take official action” to hurt Trump’s electoral prospects, particularly in a text he sent telling Page “we’ll stop” Trump from being president.

Strzok, who was a deputy assistant director for counterintelligence at the bureau, has apologized for sending the messages and said they reflected personal views that did not affect his work. His attorney has said that had Strzok wanted to prevent Trump’s election, he could have leaked that Trump’s campaign was under investigation for possibly coordinating with Russia — a revelation that might have upended his presidential bid.

FBI agents are not what you call honest people that tell the truth.

Your claim is the Proud Boys were lying and only like to bash poor minorities and not rich men standing in the way of their hate? On what basis?

Oy! You are on weekend detention!
Back in your box until Monday or I tell your doctor.

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Reply #10 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:16am:

An FBI witness says that members of the far-right Proud Boys had hoped to assassinate Vice President Mike Pence and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi during last week's violent storming of the U.S. Capitol.

An FBI special agent made the claim in an affidavit

Affidavit, eh? Suddenly they carry weight with you, turd? You credit one nameless agent but dismiss thousands of others. Bbwianesque.

Over 7,000 affidavits delivered to Michigan lawmakers claim election fraud

Hundreds of people concerned about the integrity of the Nov. 2020 election gathered outside the Michigan Capitol Thursday to protest and deliver roughly 7,000 affidavits claiming fraud and demanding a forensic audit.

Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94742 Gender:	Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Reply #11 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:59pm Now now, Greggery, there is good and bad on both sides, okay? Why isn't anybody investigating Mike Pence? You tell me that.
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Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence
Reply #12 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 1:02pm

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 12:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 10:16am:

An FBI witness says that members of the far-right Proud Boys had hoped to assassinate Vice President Mike Pence and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi during last week's violent storming of the U.S. Capitol.

An FBI special agent made the claim in an affidavit

Affidavit, eh? Suddenly they carry weight with you, turd? You credit one nameless agent but dismiss thousands of others. Bbwianesque.

Over 7,000 affidavits delivered to Michigan lawmakers claim election fraud

Hundreds of people concerned about the integrity of the Nov. 2020 election gathered outside the Michigan Capitol Thursday to protest and deliver roughly 7,000 affidavits claiming fraud and demanding a forensic audit.

Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Just so. Mike Pence has an affidavit? We can find a few too. Sidney's writing one up as we speak.

So unfair, no?

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Reply #13 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 1:41pm

Steampipe wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 11:20am:

So all the evidence so far is hearsay.

All the evidence is rock solid, and it's all come from the Republicans themselves as well as the terrorists.

They've given full confessions.

There's absolutely nothing "hearsay" about it - it's been confirmed by the people who were actually there.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73996 Gender:	Re: Proud Boys Were Really Going To Kill Mike Pence Reply #14 - Jun 18^th, 2022 at 2:01pm Sore end seems upset the Proud Boys didn't achieve their goals
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