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Reply #150 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 11:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 7:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 5^th, 2022 at 2:02pm:

Ah, so you think Mr Trump's not racist too, eh?

Of course he's not.

Some, I assume, are good people.

Nobody's done more for the blacks than Trump.

Everybody's saying it.

That's true, Greggery. A Jigaboo said it. Do you see?

The old boy cannot possibly be racist. Some of his best friends are Jigaboos, yes?

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Reply #151 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 11:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 11:19pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 11:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 10:48pm:

Interesting that the supreme court have made 4 contentious rulings in the last 2 weeks and all have had a religious basis and all on the same side of the same religion.

The US is the only remaining western nation where cultural (and puritanical) religiosity infests its societal sensibility and its politics.

Yes but the supreme court is there to protect the constitution and much of this is in clear breach of the establishment clause of the first amendment.

There's the Constitution and then there's American societal religiosity.

Those judges live within that American milieu.

And it's not a first that the SCOTUS could be suspected of acceding to a mob. It was the SCOTUS that upheld 'separate but equal' did not violate the 14th Amendment.

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Reply #153 - Jul 9^th, 2022 at 9:47am

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Joe Biden to sign executive order protecting access to abortion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/08/joe-biden-to-sign-order-offering...

Just a thought......Post Exekitiv Order......Roe v Wade remains overturned.......All 50 States & the DC still have the Rights & Powers to decide all matters regarding abortion as the Supreme Court of the United States of America correctly decided......

So, how is 'Kiddie Sniffer Joey' going to enforce illegal abortions in those States where the people's legislatures have decided to severely restrict abortion?

He gunna wave his spayshill majik wand?

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Reply #154 - Jul 9^th, 2022 at 10:11am

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Joe Biden to sign executive order protecting access to abortion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/08/joe-biden-to-sign-order-offering...

Sniffer Joey has got what gweggy has: Biden said: “There’s an increasing concern that extremist governors and others will try to....."

Extremists. Doesn't fall in with your way of looking at things? Extremist.
Hyped extremists. Ultra hyper extreme extremists.

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Reply #156 - Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:07am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Joe Biden to sign executive order protecting access to abortion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/08/joe-biden-to-sign-order-offering...

Good.

it's a good start, but it doesn't restore womens rights to what they were. It's now up to Americans to vote out republicans across the board at the next election and allow the democrats to pass a law that gives them back those rights.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #157 - Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:18am

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Joe Biden to sign executive order protecting access to abortion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/08/joe-biden-to-sign-order-offering...

Good.

it's a good start, but it doesn't restore womens rights to what they were. It's now up to Americans to vote out republicans across the board at the next election and allow the democrats to pass a law that gives them back those rights.

If they want to make Abortion a Right, then they will have to go the Amendment route.....a simple legislative action is only as good as long as it stays in favor of the political party in power, whereas a Constitutional Amendment is the Law of the Land unless amended itself.

Being that amending the US Constitution has only been successful 17 times in over 230 years, it tends to stick when it is......

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Reply #158 - Jul 11^th, 2022 at 6:04pm

Banning abortion leads to increases in maternal death rates

Louisanna has a maternal death rate of 40.4 deaths per 100 000 births. In Australia it ranges from 5 to 8.4 per 100 000 births

this fuken moron of a rethuglican senators' response, when asked about it was that if they don't count black women, then the rate is similar to other areas

[url]In an interview with Politico, the following words came out of Cassidy’s mouth: “About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”[/url]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates

Is this guy for real? Cheesy

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #159 - Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates

Is this guy for real? Cheesy

A southern American piece of white trash, infested with cultural and/or personal uber-religiosity, of course he's for real.

I watched one of these trash making claims that non-Christians can't swear an oath in court because he thought a witness could only swear on the bible.

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Reply #160 - Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:16pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates

Is this guy for real? Cheesy

A southern American piece of white trash, infested with cultural and/or personal uber-religiosity, of course he's for real.

I watched one of these trash making claims that non-Christians can't swear an oath in court because he thought a witness could only swear on the bible.

the bible thumpers are always the least christian people you will meet.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #161 - Jul 11^th, 2022 at 10:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

it's a good start, but it doesn't restore womens rights to what they were. It's now up to Americans to vote out republicans across the board at the next election and allow the democrats to pass a law that gives them back those rights

"The majority of Democrats, including Lamont, supported the bill, but 10 members of the Black and Puerto Rican Caucus, including McGee, voted against the measure. The bill passed by 87-60 in the state House of Representatives and 25-9 in the Senate. State Rep. Laura Devlin of Fairfield, who is running for lieutenant governor on a ticket with gubernatorial candidate Bob Stefanowski, was among seven Republicans voting in favor of the bill.

Overall, 14 House Democrats voted against the abortion bill, joining with the majority of Republicans in opposition. McGee and others said that Black women make up only 14% of the child-bearing population but have 36% of abortions.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/abortion-politics-front-center-west-091900503.html

It crosses party lines. Roll Eyes

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Reply #162 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 12:51am

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:16pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 6:04pm:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates

Is this guy for real? Cheesy

A southern American piece of white trash, infested with cultural and/or personal uber-religiosity, of course he's for real.

I watched one of these trash making claims that non-Christians can't swear an oath in court because he thought a witness could only swear on the bible.

the bible thumpers are always the least christian people you will meet.

The term religious right is an oxymoron - heavy on the moron bit.

The reality is that there is no such thing as a religious right.

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Reply #163 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 12:58am

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 10:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

it's a good start, but it doesn't restore womens rights to what they were. It's now up to Americans to vote out republicans across the board at the next election and allow the democrats to pass a law that gives them back those rights

"The majority of Democrats, including Lamont, supported the bill, but 10 members of the Black and Puerto Rican Caucus, including McGee, voted against the measure. The bill passed by 87-60 in the state House of Representatives and 25-9 in the Senate. State Rep. Laura Devlin of Fairfield, who is running for lieutenant governor on a ticket with gubernatorial candidate Bob Stefanowski, was among seven Republicans voting in favor of the bill.

Overall, 14 House Democrats voted against the abortion bill, joining with the majority of Republicans in opposition. McGee and others said that Black women make up only 14% of the child-bearing population but have 36% of abortions.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/abortion-politics-front-center-west-091900503.html

It crosses party lines. Roll Eyes

Yes it always crossed party lines.

The original Roe V Wade decision was made by a republican majority of votes in the supreme court and supported by the republican and democrat party as a whole with members of both opposed to it as well.

As a state governor G Bush passes abortion laws. When he became President the Party opinion had changed so he then opposed abortion. Like so many he was happy to sit on both sides of the fence.

Even the religious opinion has changed when Roe V Wade first passed there was little religious opposition, the religious opposition only came after the republicans chose to make it a political issue.

One of the leading religious opponents to abortion only started his crusade about 7 years after Roe v Wade, that is for 6 years he really didn't think it was a problem.

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Re: ROE v WADE Overturned
Reply #164 - Jul 12^th, 2022 at 1:15am

Panther wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:18am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 11:07am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 9^th, 2022 at 10:21am:

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2022 at 11:08pm:

Joe Biden to sign executive order protecting access to abortion

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/08/joe-biden-to-sign-order-offering...

Good.

it's a good start, but it doesn't restore womens rights to what they were. It's now up to Americans to vote out republicans across the board at the next election and allow the democrats to pass a law that gives them back those rights.

If they want to make Abortion a Right, then they will have to go the Amendment route.....a simple legislative action is only as good as long as it stays in favor of the political party in power, whereas a Constitutional Amendment is the Law of the Land unless amended itself.

Being that amending the US Constitution has only been successful 17 times in over 230 years, it tends to stick when it is......

Let The People Decide??

If that's the way the cards fall - that's the way they fall, but at least if every person is enabled a vote, some genuine consensus will arise...

Same here on many issues.....

I think - though I am always conflicted about this issue and not on religious grounds since I have no religion (me father was Protestant- me mither Catholic - I'm beyond redemption) - I would vote YES to abortion on balance of outcomes.

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