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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138171 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #165 - Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 1:51pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 1:49pm: Greggy, this is a serious thread - please take your silly puerile humor elsewhere. forgiven namaste If a battery gets wet you can choose to be eaten by a shark instead of being electrocuted. Or did Trump lie?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105721 Melbourne Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #166 - Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 1:54pm Lithium batteries catch fire in a scooter: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1576226442927250 IT HAPPENED: One defective lithium-ion battery cell just killed 22 people.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138171 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #167 - Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 1:57pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2024 at 1:54pm: Lithium batteries catch fire in a scooter: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1576226442927250 IT HAPPENED: One defective lithium-ion battery cell just killed 22 people. Why didn't the shark save them? Or don't sharks work if they get wet?
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Reply #168 - Aug 5^th, 2024 at 4:50pm

Oh now I see this thread about EV batteries etc.,
I was writing about it in travel… as in I’d rather travel with 2 draught horses pulling a car shell than buy an EV.
Yet in that vid Bobby put up it says only 2 breaths in 15 seconds of that EV smoke and we will be unconscious. So in an enclosed car park… Undecided

I’m going to park outside in the rain or searing heat from now on!

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Reply #169 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:52am

Musk just released a new battery technology: solid state batteries.

These are much safer than lithium ion and also don’t degrade nearly as fast as lithium ion.

Makes adding a battery to a solar panel installation much easier, cheaper and the battery lasts much longer and won’t catch fire.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1735940427/0#0

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Reply #170 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:10pm

"Another battery developer, however, Tailan New Energy, just announced that it has crafted a solid-state battery with the highest energy density among existing ternary lithium batteries.

Tailan's solid-state battery has double the energy density of NIO's 150 kWh pack and would be good for more than 1200 miles of range on a single charge.

While solid-state batteries are usually cited along with the 500 Wh/kg mark, the record 720 Wh/kg energy density of the new battery has been achieved with several technological breakthroughs.

"The all-solid-state lithium battery released uses a high-gram capacity, long-cycle lithium-rich manganese-based material for the positive electrode," tips Tailan, and adds that "in order to solve the solid-solid interface impedance problem... it is also equipped with Tailan New Energy’s unique high-performance oxide composite solid-state electrolyte." "

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Solid-state-battery-with-record-energy-density-use...

Still a lithium battery. Safer but not safe?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47553 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #171 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:17pm Safe. Poor lees, said no breakthroughs in batteries was possible. 2000 miles between recharges lees. hardly any drop in performance even after many power cycles lees. bulk safer than lithium battery or gasoline/diesel vehicles lees.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18548 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #172 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 2:23pm Water doesn't put out Lithium fires. It's used to cool battery down to stop thermal runaway which causes the fire.
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Reply #173 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:44pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:17pm:

Poor lees, said no breakthroughs in batteries was possible.

Again with misinformation. Why do you lie? Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:17pm:

bulk safer than lithium battery or gasoline/diesel vehicles lees.

The evidence for that is very scant at the moment. Grin

So Musk claims one charge 2,000 miles? Any proof of it? Toyota in December reported 745miles and eventually 932miles.

Please don't rely on Musk's over the top predictions. Grin

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Reply #174 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 4:50pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 1:10pm:

"Another battery developer, however, Tailan New Energy, just announced that it has crafted a solid-state battery with the highest energy density among existing ternary lithium batteries.

Tailan's solid-state battery has double the energy density of NIO's 150 kWh pack and would be good for more than 1200 miles of range on a single charge.

While solid-state batteries are usually cited along with the 500 Wh/kg mark, the record 720 Wh/kg energy density of the new battery has been achieved with several technological breakthroughs.

"The all-solid-state lithium battery released uses a high-gram capacity, long-cycle lithium-rich manganese-based material for the positive electrode," tips Tailan, and adds that "in order to solve the solid-solid interface impedance problem... it is also equipped with Tailan New Energy’s unique high-performance oxide composite solid-state electrolyte." "

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Solid-state-battery-with-record-energy-density-use...

Still a lithium battery. Safer but not safe?

Maybe but where is the electricity coming from to charge them?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47553 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #175 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:22pm A charger?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105721 Melbourne Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #176 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:29pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 5:22pm: A charger? Our electricity grid is struggling without EVs.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47553 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #177 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:01pm A lot of houses have solar panels.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105721 Melbourne Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #178 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:04pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4^th, 2025 at 6:01pm: A lot of houses have solar panels. Not much good if your car is at your workplace all day.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47553 Gender:	Re: EV batteries are dangerous. Reply #179 - Jan 4^th, 2025 at 7:55pm Increasing numbers of car parks have them too: gives shade + power.
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