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Reply #15 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:43pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:41pm:
I'm asking peccarovich to define what he thinks terrorism is



why? do you think Greg wrote the report for ASIO?

Or perhaps you think that, like you,  ASIO doesn't know what the definition of 'terrorism' is?
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Reply #16 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:44pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Why are most of the lifers per head of popuation in our max security prisons Muslim Khunts! followed by Abbos.


Sad, innit?
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Reply #17 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:07pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 3:55pm:
The vast majority of that is watching, Greg - no action to be taken.  As again - it's good to know that the genuine crisis dangers have been put under sufficient surveillance and notice that they are treading warily - so now the guv can start to concentrate resources on the small fry.

They're recruiting, you know.... mostly office work analysing traffic and such... you know....

The clear and present danger remains those who carry out shootings in the streets and such... the rest is window dressing.... a few disgruntled bushies a danger maketh not.... organised gangs are the real problem here.....


The majority of terrorist attacks in Australia have been carried out by right-wing extremists, such as white supremacists.

And, in New Zealand too of course.



Define terrorist attacks.....


The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.



I do beg your pardon - Smith intruded there with one of his senseless jibes again.... so now that we've reached that point - what are these acts of 'violence and intimidation taking place HERE from what you call 'white supremacist' groups or individuals?  Single lone nutters....

And also  these current or possible near future "Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature"?

Have you been reading my text books here?

Australia first, please.... might throw the hat in the ring for ASIO... they know me .... and not from any investigation either.....

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Reply #18 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm:
what are these acts of 'violence and intimidation taking place HERE from what you call 'white supremacist' groups or individuals?  Single lone nutters....



so it's not just terrorism you don't know the definition off, but you also seem to not understand what 'threat' means as well. Roll Eyes

did you even read the article crappler?
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Reply #19 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:11pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm:
what are these acts of 'violence and intimidation taking place HERE from what you call 'white supremacist' groups or individuals?  Single lone nutters....



so it's not just terrorism you don't know the definition off, but you also seem to not understand what 'threat' means as well. Roll Eyes

did you even read the article crappler?



You have no idea of the grading of threat, Gino - do stop trying...  jut allow peccary to unveil his position one step at a time... you just sit there and watch - you might learn something....
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Reply #20 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:29pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:05pm:
Define terrorist attacks.....



you mean you've been commenting on terrorism all these years and you still don't know the meaning?  Shocked



Actually, I'm not surprised considering it's you  Roll Eyes



I'm asking peccarovich to define what he thinks terrorist attacks are here... ...


I've done that.

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Reply #21 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:44pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:27pm:
Why are most of the lifers per head of popuation in our max security prisons Muslim Khunts! followed by Abbos.


Sad, innit?

What's sad and bad is they only catch a small percentage of them, the rest are out there doing damage or will do damage.
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Reply #22 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:20pm
 


"Right-wing extremism has been growing in Australia for years: the New Zealand royal commission into the 2019 Christchurch terror attacks found that right-wing extremists here radicalised the Australian terrorist convicted of this heinous attack.

"ASIO now devotes 50 per cent of its counter-terrorism work to right-wing extremism.

"Concerningly, authorities have warned that COVID is accelerating this threat, with more people at home, without work, in front of screens, and ripe for propaganda, recruitment and radicalisation.

"It also does harm when mainstream media and political figures – some members of Parliament no less – promote far-right conspiracies and use social media platforms to spread extremist views."


ASIO now devotes 50 per cent of its counter-terrorism work to right-wing extremism.
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Reply #23 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm
 
We need to see some proof here, Peccary..... we had the bald statement boy for a while claiming he was debating and he never took a trick.

If 50% is chasing after 'right wing white supremacists' etc - where are the arrests and such?  where is the clampdown on - for instance' that clear group of wannabe neo-Nazis in the Victorian forest?  Where are the incidents - the bombings, the shootings and such?

Thus far it seems that is limited to one neo-Nazi dope assaulting a sallow security guy outside a building..... this is indeed a sparrow fart in the overall picture... regrettable yes - but let us not lose perspective...

There are people out there with concealable firearms, who, even though they are currently restricting themselves to 'their own kind', are striking terror into the hearts of the common community, including many of 'their own kind'.  All Australians deserve to be protected from that kind of action by a few.

A good step is banning genuine neo-Nazi groups - but never let anyone out of his tree who sees Nazis on every street corner determining who is and who isn't a Nazi... that is madness.  Perhaps a two year prison term for membership..... but then - that runs the risk of the government becoming the very thing it says it is seeking to stamp out.

More direct proof needed, Greg.... it could easily be that this is a red herring campaign to lull the real threats into a false sense of security.

ASIO is recruiting, you know......
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Reply #24 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
We need to see some proof here, Peccary.....


If you think ASIO are lying, you'll need to take it up with them.

ASIO now devotes 50 per cent of its counter-terrorism work to right-wing extremism
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Reply #25 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:41pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
Where are the incidents - the bombings, the shootings and such?


Do you have any idea at all what the word "counter" means?

ASIO now devotes 50 per cent of its counter-terrorism work to right-wing extremism

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Reply #26 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:42pm
 
The obvious problem with this ecstatic circle wank is that for the current crop of inane pwogs, anyone who doesn't go along with Greta Thunberg, Occasional Cortes, Bernie or Adam Bandt and his hatchet-faced unhappy /grinning inane band of blowhards is a 'right-wing extremist'. The current crop of progressive - reactionary, ignorant, emotionally incontinent - are all like that comical half-wit, Future The Left Wank To. That guy is a an obvious loon for the emotionally and intellectually over-21s, but for progs, he is the brave voice of their reason and the coming victory.

What happened to the thoughtful, educated, sober Left - like Orwell, Hitchens? They are dead and there is nobody on the left who has learned from them. It's all activism for the latest outlandish victim group - now that they have transformed the proletariat intro 'rednecks and deplorables'.


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Reply #27 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:11pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm:
what are these acts of 'violence and intimidation taking place HERE from what you call 'white supremacist' groups or individuals?  Single lone nutters....



so it's not just terrorism you don't know the definition off, but you also seem to not understand what 'threat' means as well. Roll Eyes

did you even read the article crappler?



You have no idea of the grading of threat, Gino - do stop trying...  jut allow peccary to unveil his position one step at a time... you just sit there and watch - you might learn something....



you weren't asking about gradings, you were asking for definitions.

Don't try to hard dopey Grin
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Reply #28 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:42pm:
The obvious problem with this ecstatic circle wank is that for the current crop of inane pwogs, anyone who doesn't go along with Greta Thunberg, Occasional Cortes, Bernie or Adam Bandt and his hatchet-faced unhappy /grinning inane band of blowhards is a 'right-wing extremist'. The current crop of progressive - reactionary, ignorant, emotionally incontinent - are all like that comical half-wit, Future The Left Wank To. That guy is a an obvious loon for the emotionally and intellectually over-21s, but for progs, he is the brave voice of their reason and the coming victory.


You a white supremacist, Frank?

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Reply #29 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 6th, 2022 at 6:35pm:
We need to see some proof here, Peccary.....


If you think ASIO are lying, you'll need to take it up with them.

ASIO now devotes 50 per cent of its counter-terrorism work to right-wing extremism


A speech is a speech, greg.... there can be many things behind it and its intent.


https://www.aspi.org.au/opinion/asio-sounds-alarm

"Fortunately, despite ASIO’s warning, Australia’s organised right-wing extremist communities are still relatively small. Those groups that do exist are usually quickly torn apart by internal ideological rifts. They also lack the strong leadership and organisational frameworks necessary to develop widespread appeal."
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