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Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:40am
 
WHY?

A life is becoming less & less important.

These boys were guilty by association in that they aided & abetted the attack.

No wonder we have a problem with youth crime with violence.

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Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
LEA EMERY
THE devastated parents of fatally stabbed Gold Coast teenager Jack Beasley have pledged to continue their
campaign against knife crimes after three men were found not guilty over their son’s death.
Ma-Mal-J Toala, now 21, and two teens – now 18 – were found not guilty in the Supreme Court in Brisbane of
manslaughter and two counts of grievous bodily harm on Thursday.
Jack’s mother Belinda Beasley told The Courier- Mail her initial reaction to the verdict was “devastated”.
“Just to keep constantly hearing that ‘not guilty, not guilty, not guilty’,” she said.
Brett Beasley said: “It was heartbreaking.
“It was, absolutely.”
The acquittal came after more than a month of deliberation by Justice Soraya Ryan following a week-and-ahalflong trial in May.
It was alleged a group of five boys were in Surfers Paradise when Parkwood teen Jack was fatally stabbed near
the Surfers Paradise IGA on December 13, 2019.
One of Jack’s friends, also 17, was stabbed in the back and chest, leaving him with a punctured lung, it was
alleged.
The group was aged between 15 and 18 at the time and the four youngest cannot be named for legal reasons.
Ma-Mal-J Toala and two teens – aged 16 at the time of Jack’s death – pleaded not guilty on May 16 to
manslaughter and two counts of grievous bodily harm.
Toala, who was 18 at the time of the stabbing, and the two teens were acquitted on Thursday. The youngest –
who is now 17 – pleaded guilty on May 9 to murder and two counts of committing a malicious act with intent.
A second teen – now 19 – pleaded guilty in April to manslaughter and two counts of grievous bodily harm.
The two who pleaded guilty will be sentenced at a later date.
The Beasleys said they would continue their work with the Jack Beasley Foundation and campaigning against
knife crime.
“We are still concentrating heavily on the ‘detect knives, save lives’ thing that we do and ‘live your life without
a knife’,” Mr Beasley said.
“It’s just so important and I’d really love to see some sort of system, some sort of detection system being
introduced at Helensvale train station.”
Before acquitting Toala and the two other teens, Justice Soraya Ryan said: “This trial was all about whether any
of these three defendants could be held criminally responsible for the unexpected knife violence of their
accomplice.”
Outside of court, a lawyer for one of the teens Michael Gatenby said it had had an “immeasurable” effect on his
client and his family.
“They were young and it’s a tragic accident,” he said.
“Hopefully, if anything comes out of this it is that young people stop using knives in Surfers Paradise.”
Mr Gatenby said the three found not guilty were not the key players.
“These boys although they had been involved weren’t involved in the stabbing itself.”
During the trial in May, Toala’s barrister Catherine Morgan told the court her client’s involvement was limited
to striking a member of Jack’s group with a Gatorade bottle.
Ms Morgan said there could not have been a plan between Toala and the rest of the defendants as Toala did not
appear to interact with others.
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:50am
 
Yet it was found in a court of law that they did not ais a abet the attack.

You want 3 kids to go down for something people they were with did?
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Reply #2 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 10:43am
 
Quote:
These boys were guilty by association


The courts work on actual guilt.
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 11:22am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:40am:
These boys were guilty by association in that they aided & abetted the attack.



What crap.
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm
 
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....
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Reply #5 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #6 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

Roll Eyes


You seeing enemies on all sides now, Cane Toad Boy?  What IS wrong with some of you people?  I'm only going on what they said... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 7:32pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

Roll Eyes


You seeing enemies on all sides now, Cane Toad Boy?  What IS wrong with some of you people?  I'm only going on what they said... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Shall I spend many hours posting here about the bullshit stories people have told me when they were trying to explain why they were wrongly convicted.....and even charged?
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 8:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 7:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

Roll Eyes


You seeing enemies on all sides now, Cane Toad Boy?  What IS wrong with some of you people?  I'm only going on what they said... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Shall I spend many hours posting here about the bullshit stories people have told me when they were trying to explain why they were wrongly convicted.....and even charged?



Not at all!  But the simple fact is that only one had a knife.... the others either knew and were complicit or they did not know and were caught unawares - but all copped the penalty.
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 7:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

Roll Eyes


You seeing enemies on all sides now, Cane Toad Boy?  What IS wrong with some of you people?  I'm only going on what they said... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Shall I spend many hours posting here about the bullshit stories people have told me when they were trying to explain why they were wrongly convicted.....and even charged?



Not at all!  But the simple fact is that only one had a knife.... the others either knew and were complicit or they did not know and were caught unawares - but all copped the penalty.


You know for a fact that only one had a knife?

Roll Eyes
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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:03pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 7:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 6:32pm:
.... you are hereby charged with being a Pacific Islander in a public place in company with a person carrying a concealed weapon of clear intent ...... how do you plead?

I knew three guys who did time for robbing a Pizza Hut delivery boy... one of them pulled a knife - the other two went down for it, too....... even though they reckoned they didn't know he had it or was going to do that.

Tougher in NSW ....


I'm sure it was as uncomplicated as that.

Roll Eyes


You seeing enemies on all sides now, Cane Toad Boy?  What IS wrong with some of you people?  I'm only going on what they said... Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Shall I spend many hours posting here about the bullshit stories people have told me when they were trying to explain why they were wrongly convicted.....and even charged?



Not at all!  But the simple fact is that only one had a knife.... the others either knew and were complicit or they did not know and were caught unawares - but all copped the penalty.


You know for a fact that only one had a knife?

Roll Eyes




That's what they said... nobody said any different.
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Reply #11 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:14pm
 
Well let's hope the two who did do the stabbing get 15 years in jail with a non-parole period of 12 years

But as we know, they'll probably get a 3 year suspended sentence living back home with Mum and Dad ... especially if they are Islanders

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Re: Family ‘devastated’ at not guilty verdict
Reply #12 - Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:17pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 8th, 2022 at 9:14pm:
Well let's hope the two who did do the stabbing get 15 years in jail with a non-parole period of 12 years

But as we know, they'll probably get a 3 year suspended sentence living back home with Mum and Dad ... especially if they are Islanders




Carrying a weapon is intent to use it - they should get life without and a possibility of release by the Crown at some unspecified date under strict conditions .... Aussie will know what that term is.......... consigliere - over to you...
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Reply #13 - Jul 9th, 2022 at 11:48am
 
Push yer own barrow!
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Reply #14 - Jul 9th, 2022 at 1:12pm
 
Lazy duffer...
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