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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1005 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:46pm
 
That article I posted in full, for the sake of total honesty - discusses both trannies and gender bender lost souls.... you can tell when someone doesn't read it..... of course, when that person(s) never post anything of true scientific value in response but makes mindless assertions and uses insult - you know where they stand - or rather - have no idea where to stand.

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Reply #1006 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:46pm
 
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1007 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:52pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:50am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:17am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:45am:
Poll added


And a stupid one indeed.

There is only 1 but no option to give the correct answer, this makes it nothing but a troll poll


Comments have the scent of certain users....... this is a throwaway account from one of our regulars..... he admitted that....

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Quote:
his is a throwaway account from one of our regulars.


So one not three ? You agree the correct answer to the poll is not an option.

BTW who ?


The Shadow Knows......  Cool
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1008 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:08pm
 
.........**beep** that's one small glitch for a man **beep** one giant glitch for mankind **beep**.....


"Hell ... we just won the Glitch Space Race!"
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Reply #1009 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 1:29pm
 
Dnarever - just check for Lefty's 'support team' - Usual Suspects and such similar vernacular and in Lefty's case more vicious monologues.  Clearly a throwaway account .... just figure out which one is the more mental and Bob's Yer Uncle.....
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1010 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:09pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:09am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:07am:
Translation : You have nothing. You will always have nothing. You are nothing. In fact you are less than nothing. And the tragic thing is this : no one cares 😂🤣😆


To reiterate, I have about 5 times the average super, as well as rentals.  I earn in the top 5% of workers in Australia

NONE of that is why I am better than you


To re iterate....your online claims change every week along with your age and the value of your so called properties.

If you've proven ANYTHING to date it's this and ONLY this : absolutely NO internet access should be allowed where you're currently being held.



It's interesting yuo are retarded.  Given the far right have stalked and threatened my kids, I lied about my age at first to obscure who I am.  I admitted this.  No other thing I have said about myself has changed, I have not lied

I am being held.  HAHAHAHAHAA!!!

The right are filth
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1011 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:50am:
[quote]his is a throwaway account from one of our regulars.


So one not three ? You agree the correct answer to the poll is not an option.

BTW who ?


Grappy is thicker than pig crap.  That's just obvious.  I love how compulsively he cries on any thread I am on
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1012 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 5:34pm
 
*glitch*
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1013 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 5:47pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 2:30pm:
From the study I referenced earlier...

Quote:
For this study, they looked at the DNA of 13 transgender males, individuals
born female and transitioning to male, and 17 transgender females, born
male and transitioning to female.

The extensive whole exome analysis, which sequences all the protein-coding
regions of a gene (protein expression determines gene and cell function) was
performed at the Yale Center for Genome Analysis. The analysis was confirmed
by Sanger sequencing, another method used for detecting gene variants.

The variants they found were not present in a group of 88 control exome
studies in nontransgender individuals
also done at Yale. They also were rare
or absent in large control DNA databases.


The "exome" is the protein-coding regions of genes in a genome.

Your final comment sounds definitive - the study made it clear that it was 'might', 'maybe' and 'could' ... huge difference and this is the trap that the unwary fall into.  There was nothing definitive about it - yet that final comment sounds as if there is...

It's difficult to argue against the actual science of genomics.  The facts
are there, regardless of you're opinions of science—which seem pretty
negative, biassed, and unevidenced.  I note that apart from a couple
of one-liners, you haven't presented any accredited scientific references
that would support your own claims about genomics.    Why is that?

The initial research results were also confirmed by Sanger sequencing,
an analysis performed on a comparative basis, where the subject
electropherogram is compared against an electropherogram from a
DNA sample without a mutation.

In a nutshell then, mutations in specific gene patters can in fact be a causal
factor in transgender subjects, which means yes—one can be born with a
propensity to become a transgender
as an adult.



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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1014 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 5:56pm
 
Geoff - the study itself started off with doubt..... you have to read it all....
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1015 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 6:04pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 5:56pm:
Geoff - the study itself started off with doubt..... you have to read it all....

All scientific research—naturally—starts off with doubt.  That's how science
works.  It tests its own hypotheses.

In this genome research, the conclusion was clear and confirmed.

I'm thinking we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.     Smiley


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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1016 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 6:51pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:09pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:09am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:07am:
Translation : You have nothing. You will always have nothing. You are nothing. In fact you are less than nothing. And the tragic thing is this : no one cares 😂🤣😆


To reiterate, I have about 5 times the average super, as well as rentals.  I earn in the top 5% of workers in Australia

NONE of that is why I am better than you


To re iterate....your online claims change every week along with your age and the value of your so called properties.

If you've proven ANYTHING to date it's this and ONLY this : absolutely NO internet access should be allowed where you're currently being held.



It's interesting yuo are retarded.  Given the far right have stalked and threatened my kids, I lied about my age at first to obscure who I am.  I admitted this.  No other thing I have said about myself has changed, I have not lied

I am being held.  HAHAHAHAHAA!!!

The right are filth


Well - the way you run around the schoolyard of your mind kicking sh1t in people's faces, I can understand anyone wanting to kill you.  Why would anyone threaten your kids unless you or they had done something?  For handing out Greens pamphlets?   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

You are being very economical with the truth..... how'd the court case go?
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1017 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 6:52pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 4:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 12:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 11:50am:
[quote]his is a throwaway account from one of our regulars.


So one not three ? You agree the correct answer to the poll is not an option.

BTW who ?


Grappy is thicker than pig crap.  That's just obvious.  I love how compulsively he cries on any thread I am on



I am your Master at every step, fool...you're getting desperate again....

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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1018 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 8:56pm
 
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Re: The truth about trans people
Reply #1019 - Oct 1st, 2022 at 9:10pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Oct 1st, 2022 at 5:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 6:59pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Sep 30th, 2022 at 2:30pm:
From the study I referenced earlier...

Quote:
For this study, they looked at the DNA of 13 transgender males, individuals
born female and transitioning to male, and 17 transgender females, born
male and transitioning to female.

The extensive whole exome analysis, which sequences all the protein-coding
regions of a gene (protein expression determines gene and cell function) was
performed at the Yale Center for Genome Analysis. The analysis was confirmed
by Sanger sequencing, another method used for detecting gene variants.

The variants they found were not present in a group of 88 control exome
studies in nontransgender individuals
also done at Yale. They also were rare
or absent in large control DNA databases.


The "exome" is the protein-coding regions of genes in a genome.

Your final comment sounds definitive - the study made it clear that it was 'might', 'maybe' and 'could' ... huge difference and this is the trap that the unwary fall into.  There was nothing definitive about it - yet that final comment sounds as if there is...

It's difficult to argue against the actual science of genomics.  The facts
are there, regardless of you're opinions of science—which seem pretty
negative, biassed, and unevidenced.  I note that apart from a couple
of one-liners, you haven't presented any accredited scientific references
that would support your own claims about genomics.    Why is that?

The initial research results were also confirmed by Sanger sequencing,
an analysis performed on a comparative basis, where the subject
electropherogram is compared against an electropherogram from a
DNA sample without a mutation.

In a nutshell then, mutations in specific gene patters can in fact be a causal
factor in transgender subjects, which means yes—one can be born with a
propensity to become a transgender
as an adult.





I haven't discussed genomics - I have posted several actual studies that pretty much say that the 'science' is not yet in sufficiently to be leaping ahead with the Great Tranny Revolution and that clinics are just taking some kid's word for their personal alleged feeling as being sufficient to start the process.

You need to read all the links I post and that last one especially.  It covers a lot of ground, and the study linked about the possible 'from birth'  does say just that it MIGHT be the case in its own prelude.

As I said - you have to read everything they posit.... not just what they are studying.

My approach to science is far more rigorous than some here, who leap on any unfounded statement as being the absolute truth, as long as it suits their position.

I repeat - the 'science' on trannies is NOT in, and there are countless areas that need a lot more research before it becomes another runaway train - especially when it comes to young people - some as young as eight, as that compilation of data and facts I posted shows - and that WAS 2021-22.....

Seriously - some dork running around accusing people of wanting to kill his kids because of, not their gender preferences, but his own madness aggravated by past clashes he has most likely created - is NOT the way to discuss such issues.

Read the entire thing at your leisure:-

https://macdonaldlaurier.ca/gender-dysphoria-in-children-risking-harm-from-well-...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56601386

Look at the cases developing in other countries over 'transition on demand' and what it has caused, and about the actual ethics of 'clinics' advocating and carrying out these procedures.  Look at the madness developing out of this 'gender identity' insanity ....

https://twitter.com/moleatthedoor/status/1576007738316197889/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Martina/status/1575151797345419271?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%...
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